Zundy Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 As the title says, remove protohumans because they don't really make sense lore wise (where do they come from, why does no one care that their species is being mass produced) and at the moment don't really give much info' in regards to medical testing etc. Replace them with, "anthropomorphic test devices" aka crash test dummies but futuristic. I'm thinking a mob which is synthetic, has fake organs inside and actually can be used to give feedback on feelings, pain etc. Maybe you click on it and it gives you a screen with details, maybe it comes with a handheld tool you scan it with that tells you. Could have it contain fake organs of all species or maybe have different types for different species. Braindead vac drones can stay as they do make sense lore wise. Thoughts? Possible?
Snakebittenn Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 to copypaste from last night protohumans are dumb because 1) they are essentially just an ascended meme. they only originated from back in the day when you could somehow polymorph a chimp into a functioning human being (with 225 skin and neon green hair) with Genetics. 2) they have no lore basis asides from possibly proto vaurca. where are they coming from. who is making them. why is the Hegemony cool with proto unathi being sold like that. none of this is explained. 3) they are constantly used for the crew to be ridiculously edgy. I have seen a Captain invite the crew to watch one get crushed hydraulically as a 'safety demonstration on disposals'. the amount of times the crew has fed them to Changelings and just watched. people seem to forget they're basically just vegetative humans. 4) they actually reduce roleplay. most scenarios in which you'd use a protohuman could've been a lot cooler with an assistant signing a waiver or some shit. protos are super fucking gamey in the way of 'yeah my laser gun does exactly 30 burn' without any consequence or actual interaction regarding it. 5) i hate changelings/vampires using them to skip over their progression.
nonno_anselmo Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 Possible, i'd rather have this than make someone code the whole holodeck thing or, even worse, do it myself
Peppermint Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 They also make increasingly less sense with the cloning changes. This would be pretty cool.
Azande Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 4 hours ago, ParadoxSpace said: to copypaste from last night protohumans are dumb because 1) they are essentially just an ascended meme. they only originated from back in the day when you could somehow polymorph a chimp into a functioning human being (with 225 skin and neon green hair) with Genetics. 2) they have no lore basis asides from possibly proto vaurca. where are they coming from. who is making them. why is the Hegemony cool with proto unathi being sold like that. none of this is explained. 3) they are constantly used for the crew to be ridiculously edgy. I have seen a Captain invite the crew to watch one get crushed hydraulically as a 'safety demonstration on disposals'. the amount of times the crew has fed them to Changelings and just watched. people seem to forget they're basically just vegetative humans. 4) they actually reduce roleplay. most scenarios in which you'd use a protohuman could've been a lot cooler with an assistant signing a waiver or some shit. protos are super fucking gamey in the way of 'yeah my laser gun does exactly 30 burn' without any consequence or actual interaction regarding it. 5) i hate changelings/vampires using them to skip over their progression. People that get assistants to sign waivers to be outright harmed like this get in trouble and so does the assistant. It is not logical to sign up knowing you will get shot and hurt, even if you are going to be treated.
Boggle08 Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 22 hours ago, Azande said: People that get assistants to sign waivers to be outright harmed like this get in trouble and so does the assistant. It is not logical to sign up knowing you will get shot and hurt, even if you are going to be treated. Then we should change the legislation of the station to support unethical research. I have an orange jumpsuit D-boy that I've made to fucking die from science every round. I already have enough problems with the science team not having any ideas or the spine to murder me in the name of science. We're part of an amoral mega-corporation dammit.
DronzTheWolf Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Boggle08 said: Then we should change the legislation of the station to support unethical research. I have an orange jumpsuit D-boy that I've made to fucking die from science every round. I already have enough problems with the science team not having any ideas or the spine to murder me in the name of science. We're part of an amoral mega-corporation dammit. The problem isn't IC, it's OOC. Mostly. If you sign the waiver you're probably good to go, but the OOC rules say you have to be sane enough not to volunteer for things that'll get you hurt/killed.
GreenBoi Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 4 hours ago, DronzTheWolf said: The problem isn't IC, it's OOC. Mostly. If you sign the waiver you're probably good to go, but the OOC rules say you have to be sane enough not to volunteer for things that'll get you hurt/killed. Just word it differently and it's done.
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