Medical role changes feedback

[CrimZonMartin]

On 07/07/2020 at 06:29, MattAtlas said:

I've had to bwoink many, many trauma physicians doing surgery because the role itself is an enigma. All of them thought that due to the name they can do surgery, and they can't. It's a physician that does physician things with a different name. There's no alternate roleplay to be had here, because there's absolutely zero mechanical differences.

I basically made this role, and imo, it has to go.

What is the point of a Physician (or Trauma Physician) if they cannot do ANY surgery? Every Physician would just become a surgeon if they wanted to do anything. From my knowledge, there are two ways to treat people: chemicals to treat the damage or surgery. If Physicians can't fix with surgery, then they're completely reliant on chemists or pharmacists to provide medicine. They should have more training than an EMT (or Paramedic) that has practically the same skillset.

[BoryaTheSlayer]

To further clarify. It is the psychologist alt-title being removed/changed to be an alt-title of chaplain instead of psychiatrist, not the entire job. The psychologist is, in fact, not a medical doctor, and thus it seems rather strange to put them in a medical setting when in fact all they can do is various forms of therapy. And focusing on the therapy aspect of the job, to me, seems rather unfitting(although not completely out of place) for a research and mining station which is not meant to house people for very long periods of time.

[VisVirific]

After considering these changes with more attention, reading people's opinions, and also discussing it in the Discord. I'm here with my updated feedback on these proposed changes.

 

• Psychologist Relocation as Alt-Title for Chaplain.

Hard No. Absolutely against this one. Even if they don't have a "Medical Doctor degree", they still have an Advanced Degree (thus are Doctors of a kind), are able to work in Medical environments, and have to work with Medical Personnel (Psychiatrists) often as they share the same patients. They can also make specific Psychological Tests and Examinations, which requires them to also know the patient's Medical Records. The lack of a "Medical Degree" doesn't make them inappropriate for Medical.

Ideally, it'd be best to have BOTH Psychologist and Psychiatrists at the same time, as then they'd both be able to communicate and form a much appropriate treatment plan for a patient. This would also theoretically reduce the need to house the patients for longer periods of time since their treatment would be more effective.

 

• Trauma Physician Removal.

Hard No. As outlined before by other players, the mechanical changes to equipment directly affected this role and the strange arbitrary decisions on what surgeries they can/can't perform despite what the Wiki itself says only makes the situation more complicated.

Make the Wiki page clearer with what they can actually do and tweak the Stasis Bags again.

 

• Surgeon Age Increase.

Hard No. There are other ways to reflect the fact that our setting has additional races with their own specific needs other than just inflating a number. Artificially increasing it feels lazy and a cheap solution without further consideration of what this means to other races with shorter lifespans.

Reflect it through the technology we have. Reflect it through quality of background. Reflect it through lore. Or Justify it with more mechanical differences.

 

Lastly, I want to point out that while this entire situation wasn't a sudden slap to the face as I had feared (because this is becoming a pattern), the fact it was discussed so thoroughly behind the scenes in a vacuum without consideration of ASKING THE DIRECTLY AFFECTED PLAYERS is very, very Yikes. This drains any will or enjoyment to be or invest in this server, because it gives the impression that the players who are being affected by the changes don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

This doesn't feel like a questionnaire. There was NO HINT WHATSOEVER about being an ongoing project. We are only being informed of this NOW, and not before the PR was up or even when the Feedback thread was originally created. I really hope future projects won't go through this exact same pattern again.

[furrycactus]

Yeah, adding on, the psychologist relocation is also going to be a hard no from me, too.

You're still medical, mental health is just as important as physical, and psychologists need access to patient medical records because that's where psychological and psychiatric information is stored. Chaplains, counselors, etc. meanwhile do not need and should not have that information.

[Carver]

Whilst I was for the initial two points, I'm against the removal or relocation of psychologist. Whilst not a doctor like a psychiatrist, the psychologist is still a professional in a health-related field (mental health).

The chaplain and his numerous alt roles hold the distinction of not really requiring any formal training, unlike a psychologist - and I'd really rather not see psychologists taking away from the possibility of a chaplain being in a round.

[Bear]

I personally like the relocation of the physcologist. I would not like to see it removed however. It adds clarification to the roll on what they should be doing. A psychologist does not treat medicinally.

[Carver]

A psychologist also doesn't run a religious institution, and yet that's what relocation to Chaplain would entail. A psychologist fits working in Medical or Research far, far better than working in the chapel. I'd sooner see the title removed entirely than contesting a far more precious slot that has an entirely different role within the round.