Nik Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 What Sam said. Trial run it like those damn Bubble PDA's.
Carver Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Along with Sue's point of Red/Blue psychology, I'd like to see these colours on the basis of whether or not they'll improve Security's image as a whole beyond the stereotypical 'Dumb baton-waving redshirt'. Red's sort of become a 'bad colour' in SS13, for seeing it means either Security, Syndie, Blood, or Fire Extinguisher. Any or all of which tend to point to 'trouble' in some sense. When I think of Redshirts and Security as a whole in SS13, even as a Security regular, I don't think of 'Safety and Protection', I think of this: Or this,
Nik Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 Yeah, it's one of those things where Red sec are not seen as the good guys, at all, jokes aside.
Jamini Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 That has nothing to do with their uniforms. If you dislike red, wear the black uniforms, or the white polo+red pants. That's what I do on both of my security characters. Yes, I do play sec. I've even started playing my officers here lately. Mostly I avoid it because it is a very popular department (though I will admit it's not as consistentlyoverstaffed as I've stated previously), and engineering or medical need more hands. Blue is a poor choice for security. I will remain absolutely firm on that. Blue is the color of command, a color that no other department should be wearing as a primary for clarity's sake. (Medical has blue accents, as does the investigator, but those are not their primary or departmental colors.)
Carver Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Blue is the color of command, a color that no other department should be wearing as a primary for clarity's sake. (Medical has blue accents, as does the investigator, but those are not their primary or departmental colors.) Command is a total of '2' (Or '6', depending on if you count the other Departmental heads with their own unique uniforms reflecting their department) people whom won't often even wear their default uniforms by preference. Noone, by default, aside from the Captain and HoP wear mainly Blue, and the HoP by default wears his own unique shade of blue, whereas the Captain by default wears his trademark 'Captain Crunch' hat and his golden-striped jumpsuit. Not to mention the both of them having around 3 different alternate uniforms each, and relative freedom to wear what they want, and you'll see that the 'Command is blue' is really just meaningless colour scheme nitpicking for what can hardly even be considered a 'Department' of it's own.
Jamini Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Command is a department, and it has it's own colors for the flooring/doors/consoles that involve it. Most uniforms match the color scheme of the department for a reason, changing this reduces sprite clarity and departmental recognition. This can be very confusing and/or bad for new players. It's also why I kind of despise the look of the Aurora engineering uniform. Don't forget the CMO has a blue jacket as well.
Carver Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Medical also has Blue, Green, and oh look, Reddish uniforms. Let's also take a look at Science, specifically Robotics (A sub-department that has gone between Medical, Engineering, and Research in it's whole lifespan), oh, look, Black and Red, where have I seen that before? Then there's mining and those absolutely confusing purple patches on those overalls that make me constantly confuse them with Scientists. The whole point being, the outdated 'Colour Scheme' is a giant load of schlock meant to make crewmembers identifiable by a glance to antags on fast-paced competitive servers where you fly by people in 2 seconds of screen-time. What people don't seem to realize is, a Security Officer will be recognizable no matter what colour they are. They will always carry their belt, their armour, their hardsuits, their batons. People will wear what they like to, but when it comes down to the gist of it, Security will always be defined by Helmets and Batons, not the colour red, nor the colour blue. Just as Engineering is toolbelts, insulated gloves, and RIG suits. Just as Science is labcoats and bomb-making gear, and Medical is scouters and syringes. It doesn't come down to the colours, it comes down to the equipment. Security will always, whether people like it or not, retain an essence of 'authority' by right of their tools and task. Blue won't make this any 'worse'. And on a very small historical note, uniform colour changes are not an unheard of concept. The Captain was once Green and Gold instead of Blue and Gold. I hardly saw anyone complaining when the black 'Schutzcurity' uniforms were added, either, and those feature very little to nonexistent amounts of red.
Susan Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Proof of concept. Thinking maybe blue with red accents, or blue and gold. Blue and checkered? Ideas? The accents on the doors and lockers. Edited March 24, 2015 by Guest
SgtSammac Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Looks pretty awesome actually. I wouldn't use blue and gold, but what about blue and grey or blue and silver?
Jamini Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) That is... really really ugly. Clown-level ugly. Try Navy for your blue, Sue. Edit: You know what I could dig? Grey, with blue accessories and gold highlights. Edited March 24, 2015 by Guest
Carver Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Aside from the still-blood red computers, I love it. It's a very calming shade of blue. If the shade gets changed later on, though, I'd like to see whatever hue picked retain the same level of softness, instead of something stark and bright that grabs the eyes unnecessarily.
Jamini Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 You know what? I've actually changed my mind a bit. I'm allowed to do that, right? Why don't we do the following? Security: Navy Blue (Command airlock colors), Gold highlights Command: Black, Gold highlights. I'll admit, command has the LEAST amount of color-coding of all departments. Having security be a navy blue might be an interseting and nice change of pace. (Plus I wanna see them in NC colors ) What Sue is working on right now: (Disregard the warden closet)
VoltageHero Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I just want to wear the white uniforms. I think those are cooler than the red, but I can't because they're the cadet uniforms. If we go blue, we need something like the cadet uniforms. That's cool, right?
Susan Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 tada I just want to wear the white uniforms. I think those are cooler than the red, but I can't because they're the cadet uniforms. If we go blue, we need something like the cadet uniforms. That's cool, right?
SgtSammac Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I just want to wear the white uniforms. I think those are cooler than the red, but I can't because they're the cadet uniforms. If we go blue, we need something like the cadet uniforms. That's cool, right? They were general uniforms before they were cadet uniforms, they can still be used by any sec member.
mrimatool Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Black and gold makes sense, wouldn't make the doors black though maybe make them a very dark grey. Black doors is ugly
mrimatool Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Black and gold makes sense, wouldn't make the doors black though maybe make them a very dark grey. Black doors is ugly To clarify I mean for command black and gold makes sense. I like the idea of blue and grey for sec though <3
Susan Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 tada I just want to wear the white uniforms. I think those are cooler than the red, but I can't because they're the cadet uniforms. If we go blue, we need something like the cadet uniforms. That's cool, right? Bumping for more input.
canon35 Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Security must remain red. Fear the commies, motherfuckers.
Guest Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 But really, turns out the blue and gold compliment each other a lot better. Hopefully you can make the HoS/warden clothing look nice, too.
Guest Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 trial run when If accepted for a trial it will happen when the dev team have time to do an update
Carver Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 The coppery-gold monitors are very a nice touch, I'd half-expected blue, but it's much better than that.
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