Staff Complaint - Aboshedab

[MrGabol100]

BYOND Key: MrGabol100
Staff BYOND Key: aboshedab
Game ID: null
Reason for complaint: I was made to post a staff complaint regarding a contested ban. 

I don't really have anything to say about aboshedab as a member of the staff. This ban was made without any game interactions taking place at a time when I was inactive in this server.

Evidence/logs/etc: null

 

Additional remarks: 

I would like to ask: Why do you assume that I was ever affiliated with a swatting attempt against apophis?

What evidence do you have that this actually took place?

Why does this affect my standing in this server and why am I disallowed to play here?

I'm ready to answer any questions regarding the incident, but I would like to make clear that I was never "directly affiliated with a swatting attempt".

Edited February 3, 2021 by MrGabol100

[Alberyk]

The headmins will look into it. Now, to be more than clear, the reasoning behind the ban is that swatting is indeed considered a crime in a lot of places and we do ban people if they are organizing/doing illegal stuff in regards to the ss13 community. This ban was not applied to defend anyone or anything. Only post if you are somehow involved.

[MrGabol100]

3 minutes ago, Alberyk said:

The headmins will look into it. Now, to be more than clear, the reasoning behind the ban is that swatting is indeed a crime and we do ban people if they are organizing illegal stuff in regards to the ss13 community. This ban was not applied to defend anyone or anything. Only post if you are somehow involved.

I had nothing to do with the unrelated post that popped up. I reported it as I saw it. I don't have anything to say about Apophis, only that I never have done anything illegal as was claimed.

I never attempted to SWAT him nor was I affiliated with or know anyone who did such. The ban was made on the assumption that I did do such things which is factually false.

[Arrow768]

[MrGabol100]

1 hour ago, Arrow768 said:

Yes. That is me and I did post that. Now, it was meant to be a joke and I find it extremely perplexing that anyone would take that seriously. If you don't find it humorous to joke about such topics I understand, yet at the moment I deemed it appropiate to joke about it. There was never absolutely anything done against him nor was this a threat. It was pure shitposting. Someone thought it wasn't funny or thought it was real and this is how this got started. That isn't a threat nor did it ever take place. I could say "I'm killing the president of the United States of America RIGHT NOW" and that isn't illegal as far as I'm aware.

"With our team of russian hackers". Come on now. I understand you might not find it funny, but I don't understand how anyone could take it at its face value.

It was meant as a joke. It wasn't meant as a threat. Nothing ever happened, because it wasn't meant seriously. The intent of the posts is rather clear and most importantly, at no point was anything illegal done.

Edited February 3, 2021 by MrGabol100

[Skull132]

1 hour ago, MrGabol100 said:

"With our team of russian hackers". Come on now. I understand you might not find it funny, but I don't understand how anyone could take it at its face value.

Swatting is an illegal activity which has resulted in literal people getting killed. It is not a joking matter. Attempting to defend it as "It's just a joke!" does nothing but undermine the fact that people who participate in, or advocate for swatting are acting in a manner which can lead to real people being killed.

[MrGabol100]

7 minutes ago, Skull132 said:

Swatting is an illegal activity which has resulted in literal people getting killed. It is not a joking matter. Attempting to defend it as "It's just a joke!" does nothing but undermine the fact that people who participate in, or advocate for swatting are acting in a manner which can lead to real people being killed.

I believe that there is a very large difference between making a joke about swatting and swatting someone "as a joke", which might get people killed.

First of all, I do not defend the actual act of swatting "as a joke". Like you said people might get killed, this is why I would never do it.

I get your point that joking about it would make the subject matter to be perceived less seriously and therefore increase the chances that someone might do it, and that is something to think about.

Yet I do not advocate or participate in swatting and never have. Nowadays I wouldn't joke about these things anymore, but I do believe that it never warranted the ban I've received, for I've participated in no illegal activities, which is what I've been banned in the first place, correct?

The joke was in poor taste, yes. I admit to that. But if we are all now on the same page, I stand banned for making a joke in poor taste in a server unrelated to this one, over two years ago.

 

[Garnascus]

So is this still "just a joke"?

[MrGabol100]

14 minutes ago, Garnascus said:

So is this still "just a joke"?

>Tell vova to quit fucking aroud or I'll cut his cigarette rations.

Yes, it is still the same joke.

As I say, it might have been in very poor taste.

I can't speak up for anyone else or what they said. It was long ago and I don't remember what Leviathan said, but from his messages in that picture it might seem to some as if he were actually serious.

I don't believe he ever did anything, I honestly don't know. But at least on my part there was never a threat or intent and I do not consider myself affiliated to this person.

And yet again I have never participated in an illegal activity related to swatting nor do I advocate it.

Edited February 4, 2021 by MrGabol100

[Garnascus]

3 minutes ago, MrGabol100 said:

Yes, it is still the same joke.

An absurdly thin defense but I suppose it is really all you have. Your appeal is denied now and forever as is this complaint.