Zer0Winds Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 I honestly do not see the point of making Freespeak now just "says" instead of the growl that it used to be. It added flavor to a gruff language that is used for the reasons it is. Besides that, however, is one problem with actually seeing that someone is speaking in Freespeak. I don't know about most people, but I, and a few meta friends, have difficulties noticing the slight font difference. It's slightly smaller, and in large sentences I can notice it a bit more, but otherwise, I might completely miss that its in Freespeak, unless my character doesn't speak it, which it's obviously not Basic then. Similarly I notice it easier on the radio but in person, less so. I assume the color has something to do with it, I'm not sure. In the changelog it says that Freespeak is changed to match "most other" human languages, but that's not true. Trade is still "enunciates" compared to Basic. Sol Common is "says" yes, because it's just the Solarian Common language, that's been around longer than Tau Ceti Basic has, and it has the benefit of being a different color. Making Freespeak a different color might help, but I don't think color coding languages is all that necessary if you don't have to, especially when colorblindness is a thing. Honestly, it would be easier to just keep it as "growls" for that extra flavor, as well making it more noticeable.
Desven Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Back when this was merged I saw they were saying a font color change was about to go up, but it never did. Honestly, we discussed more about the font than the effort to actually do that PR, which would be a simple line change. I kind of get why it was changed, mostly so it's not labeled as 'uncivilized', but I really REALLY hope Tradebrand doesn't get its 'enunciates' removed.
NewOriginalSchwann Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 A color will be added in the near future, once I shake the coders enough to make them work. As it stands there is no chance that the verb will be changed back to "growls."
TheGreyWolf Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 On 13/05/2021 at 01:41, NewOriginalSchwann said: A color will be added in the near future, once I shake the coders enough to make them work. Expand hit me up on discord (TheGreyWolf#0535) with the details/color and i'll make the PR.
DronzTheWolf Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 On 13/05/2021 at 01:02, Desven said: I kind of get why it was changed, mostly so it's not labeled as 'uncivilized', but I really REALLY hope Tradebrand doesn't get its 'enunciates' removed. Expand Except the language is uncivilized. It's the language of frontiersmen, lower class, and generally people who aren't prim and proper. It's the language of the 'uncivilized' frontier, of the 'uncivilized' ghettos. It was changed from 'gutter' to break from the criminality, not from the uncivilized nature.
N8-Toe Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 I kinda want it to stay growls. because it gave it personality beyond "says"
ImmortalRedshirt Posted May 14, 2021 Posted May 14, 2021 I'm not sure if it's possible to make verbs apply on an accent-by-accent basis, but I feel there is a strong case for having it be the case for specific groups like Vysokan accent users, because the game says their dialect is much harsher than Xanite Freespeak. The color PR does fix the readability issue that came from this decision, though.
Guest Posted May 17, 2021 Posted May 17, 2021 I definitely prefer the unique verb for freespeak, especially since its opposite retain its unique verb. It adds flavor to the language, and makes it easier to differentiate at a glance.
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