goolie Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 When people grab psionics as traitors, I don't really see much being added to roleplay, but it would be detrimental to ask for the entire system to be removed after it has been worked on. The main perpetrator of this is the head-crushing ability, which can be (I think) done if you are in the radius of the victim, even if said victim is behind a wall (surgery, security, hiding, etc.) or already incapacitated. It took around a minute or two to be completely killed by just spamming the head crush ability because, from what I saw, it doesn't have much of a cooldown. I think there should be a cooldown, or perhaps even not allow someone to continue giving you brute trauma after your head has been mangled from the ability. I wanted to know what other people thought about it because I remember a few months ago that the meta for traitors was to wait near surgery, and while surgery was going on, they would continue mangling the victim's head until they died and had to ghost. I'm not sure if there's a rule against this, but if there is, I don't think anything would need to be changed because it's basically an admin issue. 2 1 Quote
WhatsUpBrotendo Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 This seems more of an admin issue, but the cooldown should be looked into. I remember there being a similar issue with one of the other psionic abilities where it froze the person and slowly crushed their entire body, and that could be sustained even after the antag left the room. This led to things like a technomancer warping in, crushing you, then warping into another room and carrying it on and nothing could be done about it. While there's definitely an argument for balance, I believe if you're doing something gamey like what you described it falls into administration territory. There's nothing to gain other than a character's death if you're going to kill someone while they're in surgery silently and not even being in the room when you do it. 3 Quote
CampinKiller Posted December 13, 2023 Posted December 13, 2023 People sitting on surgery and then ganking people through the walls is an admin issue and should be ahelped. The ability was nerfed awhile back to where it required you to be within a certain range (normal viewing range), though it does still work through walls 3 Quote
goolie Posted December 13, 2023 Author Posted December 13, 2023 I wasn't sure if it was an admin issue, so I guess that solves it? Kind of posted this because the person who said doing it yesterday didn't even know how much damage it did, and there's no real indication that it'll basically mangle the victim's head in a few pulls. I don't think it's a common issue, but a remedy to that would be putting a cap on and using it on a person as soon as their head becomes mangled. 3 Quote
Carver Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 It working through walls doesn't really feel fair tbh, I'd rather see that go first. 2 Quote
CourierBravo Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 I think this still needs to be addressed in some capacity. People are abusing the hell out of it. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes not. But, it's incredibly frustrating to go from almost full health to dead in a couple seconds. With my only visual cue being the text that I'm taking damage in the message box. Or the sound of my head fracturing after two head crushes. It seriously needs either some kind of adjustment or nerf. 2 Quote
geeves Posted December 21, 2023 Posted December 21, 2023 https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/18027 2 Quote
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