Kane Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) BYOND Key:Joe Kane Character name:Kane DeWitt Item name:Worn Leather Jacket/Outlands Jacket Why is your character carrying said item to work? A memento of Kane's rough past, this jacket has belonged to him for quite some time, and the carries a strong sentimental value to Kane, as it was one of the few possessions he'd kept after signing on with Nanotrasen. Item function(s):A jacket, occupying the 'exosuit' slot. The jacket would probably have little to no actual affects on gameplay, unless it were to be given light armouring, though that may be a bit unfair. I would like to request pockets for it, if at all possible. Item description:A tough leather combat jacket, now worn and tattered. Armored with bulky shoulder pads and metal forearm and elbow plating. It has what appears to be several small patches around the chest, and numerous spots have been reinforced or repaired with hand-stitching. Many ancient grease and fuel stains adorn the well-worn sleeves. Scrawled on the tag inside is 'Kane'. Item appearance:A thick, black leather jacket, similar to the traditional perfecto/biker styled jacket, with light armoring. Has some aging, with the seams getting a bit worn around the edges. Shoulder and elbow plates, along with a pair of bulky shoulder pads have been riveted to the leather. The jacket is just generally dusty. Link: http://gyazo.com/48ef06ddccd740504c0c6f51068b8e5c Additional comments:This is my first custom item application. I made the icon myself, and have the mob icons prepared, too. Any advice is appreciated, sorry if the description is too long. *Edited to reflect changes* Edited December 10, 2014 by Guest
Farcry11 Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) +1. All of my yes. Why, you ask? Well: Edited October 25, 2014 by Guest
SleepyWolf Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 +1 because damn that would look good on Kane.
Frances Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 I'll take this opportunity to ask a bit more about Kane's background. Kane always looked to me like an intentional tough guy who was trying too hard. Right now, I'm not sure whether to dislike or appreciate him, because while I still think his overall basis for a character is a bit ridiculous, he does have the advantages of depth and consistency. Basically, maybe a good character, probably the wrong place. I'll be honest. I like detective Kane more. It gives him a purpose on the station - but when he's not a detective, what exactly does assistant Kane do? Because all I've ever seen him do is try to look tough and pick up fights. I don't really understand what he was doing on the station in the first place (well, now he's a detective) and I'd like to know that. Also, again, shrug on the item application. It's honestly a bit ridiculous, given that the rest of staff has to adhere to a uniform (or at least, jumpsuits), and people have been allowed ridiculous, ridiculous items of clothing in the past (a labcoat or winter coat covered in blood) that we would no longer accept now. So another question I have is, would NanoTrasen really let an ex-merc carry around a /bunch/ of memorabilia, enough to make up most of an outfit, when said merc isn't even hired to run regular (or private) security? There is a counter-argument to this, which is that the detective's outfit in general has always been very free-form. And assistants can wear pretty much anything, but I always figured they were given a limited selection of clothing (jumpsuits as well as some formal clothes), because these are the clothes NT brings on station. Discuss? Again, not trying to put Kane down. I feel entirely neutral about him right now. I'm simply intrigued. Also, +1 because damn that would look good on Kane. This goes opposite to the very concept of custom items. Custom items are not to "make your character look cool", but used to further your roleplay. They are not for the sake of standing out.
K0NFL1QT Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 It'd look cool, but slightly unprofessional for Security. Sure beats the Creep Coat though. +1.
SleepyWolf Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 okay, 1+ because that would work very will with how Kane has felt to me, and would fit his... behavior well.
Kane Posted October 25, 2014 Author Posted October 25, 2014 Well, starting with why Kane having the jacket has any reason: Kane has little reason to just start telling people about his past, and the jacket would almost certainly prompt at least some curiosity, and he would be more likely to discuss his past life if he were asked. I don't see Central Command, or any other security force refusing to allow him taking the jacket, either. It does have teeth and shell casings, but while I didn't specify what kind of teeth, I assumed people wouldn't think human teeth. They're animal teeth. The cartridges probably wouldn't be an issue, either, due to their age, poor condition, and expended status. Other than those two things, it's just a dusty old leather cop jacket, so I think it would believable that security would allow the jacket to pass, especially for the two positions Kane ever occupies, the detective slot, and assistant. Kane as an assistant *does* do some things, it used to be part of his routine to modify the nanomeds in medbay, and do other small general maintenance tasks. He also occasionally helps out and does small favors for people, though I will admit, that lately my assistant work has been slipping. I hope this explains everything, and if not, you can always ask again. Thanks for reading.
Frances Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Well, starting with why Kane having the jacket has any reason: Kane has little reason to just start telling people about his past, and the jacket would almost certainly prompt at least some curiosity, and he would be more likely to discuss his past life if he were asked. I don't see Central Command, or any other security force refusing to allow him taking the jacket, either. It does have teeth and shell casings, but while I didn't specify what kind of teeth, I assumed people wouldn't think human teeth. They're animal teeth. The cartridges probably wouldn't be an issue, either, due to their age, poor condition, and expended status. Other than those two things, it's just a dusty old leather cop jacket, so I think it would believable that security would allow the jacket to pass, especially for the two positions Kane ever occupies, the detective slot, and assistant. Kane as an assistant *does* do some things, it used to be part of his routine to modify the nanomeds in medbay, and do other small general maintenance tasks. He also occasionally helps out and does small favors for people, though I will admit, that lately my assistant work has been slipping. I hope this explains everything, and if not, you can always ask again. Thanks for reading. Huh, that explains a bit. Anyway, my main reservations come from the fact that Aurora has a bit of a "dress code", with everyone wearing jumpsuits and all. The fact there's a certain amount of liberty in the attire certain civilian jobs can dress with makes me think the dress code does come as more of a suggestion than an actual rule sometimes - having a jacket with expanded bullet casings is still a bit extreme, however. Think of a school, or even an office (which allowed casual attire). Would a supervisor at either allow someone to dress in a jacket like this?
Kane Posted October 29, 2014 Author Posted October 29, 2014 Though I don't know the conditions where you live, (I assume something like this wouldn't be allowed) where I live, you can wear a bullet belt to school, or hanging from a chain. If you're ever asked, you just need to say the rounds aren't, and never were, active. In the distant future, I imagine people would be somewhat more open with things such as this, and due to Kane's 'lower-position', they would just avoid putting him in the public eye, during inspections or something similar.
Frances Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 you can wear a bullet belt to school Welp. Alright, you win that argument. Unless somebody else wants to step in and explain that's not the kind of atmosphere NT would want to cultivate (which is really more of a lore debate), I don't really have any objections at this point.
K0NFL1QT Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 I don't see a reason to not implement it, so long as the player understands that uniforms are enforced for certain jobs. And I'm sure they know that. However, Kane most often seems to be assigned Assistant, Bartender or Detective. None of which have an enforced dress-code.
Rusty Shackleford Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 you can wear a bullet belt to school Welp. Alright, you win that argument. Unless somebody else wants to step in and explain that's not the kind of atmosphere NT would want to cultivate (which is really more of a lore debate), I don't really have any objections at this point. Party pooper here. Don't think that's the kind of atmosphere NT wants to cultivate. They've already got a bad enough rap, I think, from being the largest trans-stellar corporation in human space. They don't need people running around in leather jackets with teeth and bullet casings attached to them. Also, if you wear a bandolier to a school in 'Murica, or even bring anything that implies bullets somehow are involved with it, your ass is getting tackled and hauled off the premises to jail. Hue.
Kane Posted November 1, 2014 Author Posted November 1, 2014 I live up in Canada, so I don't need to worry about being arrested because I'm wearing bullets where I'm at. Also, I understand that NanoTrasen wouldn't want to ruin it's reputation, I could see the diversity side of it, NanoTrasen is employing a wide variety of people, and assistants, bartenders, and even detectives don't seem like positions that would require much out-of-company attention.
Erik Tiber Posted November 2, 2014 Posted November 2, 2014 I'd be totally fine with this if it weren't for the bullet casings and teeth on the jacket.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted November 2, 2014 Posted November 2, 2014 The jacket? That's fine, I can see the corporation being lenient with their dress code. But there are still a maximum amount of leniency that can be had - I don't see NT wanting a dude walking around with bullet casings and animal teeth. Nix the bullet casings, which would not be permitted to pass a security checkpoint, and maybe the animal teeth as well. Ambivalent on those. I'm abstaining on a vote until/if the bullet issue is resolved.
Kane Posted November 3, 2014 Author Posted November 3, 2014 I don't really have an issue removing the teeth, or casings, if that would make the item more believable. I'll change the description and edit my first post when I can. Thank you all for your feedback.
Baka Posted November 3, 2014 Posted November 3, 2014 +1, seems pretty cool, and there's people who haves custom knives, which I don't think would really pass a TSA inspection irl.
TishinaStalker Posted November 3, 2014 Posted November 3, 2014 there's people who haves custom knives Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've only seen one custom knife, and that was a dulled balisong used for shows and trick as a bartender. I might be wrong though, and you could be completely right!
Baka Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Even if it's dull, a knife is still a knife, you know?
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Even if it's dull, a knife is still a knife, you know? A "knife" is a sharpened piece of steel used for cutting things. A dull show knife used for tricks is a dull piece of metal used for tricks. While I'm sketchy on knives in general being allowed in a workplace, I'm ambivalent because I haven't seen any used, let alone misused. Giving a +1 due to item change.
swat43 Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Now that the 'farce' with the bullet casing is more or less gone, I will give a definite +1 to the item. I have nothing against kane nor his character, but also im abit worried thinking that people willl lately want 'crocodile Dandy' style and come to aurora. "That's a knife, mate!" Cheerio and have fun.
Farcry11 Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 Maintaining my +1, but just popping in to remind people of something. Our station's on what is essentially the edge of inhabited (or at least civilized) space. Research station we may be, but the environment is cruel, harsh, unforgiving. And the crew! A lot of mentally unstable, rather surly individuals (much like the inhabitants of a Dwarf Fortress.) I don't think many NT inspectors are coming around to keep the crew (and their clothing) what you'd call welcoming. I guess what I'm trying to say is, on a station in what is essentially the Space Wild West, and manned by a bunch of loonies, would spent casings and animal teeth be that big of a deal? Not saying they need to stay on the jacket, just making a counterpoint.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 Maintaining my +1, but just popping in to remind people of something. Our station's on what is essentially the edge of inhabited (or at least civilized) space. Research station we may be, but the environment is cruel, harsh, unforgiving. And the crew! A lot of mentally unstable, rather surly individuals (much like the inhabitants of a Dwarf Fortress.) I don't think many NT inspectors are coming around to keep the crew (and their clothing) what you'd call welcoming. I guess what I'm trying to say is, on a station in what is essentially the Space Wild West, and manned by a bunch of loonies, would spent casings and animal teeth be that big of a deal? Not saying they need to stay on the jacket, just making a counterpoint. Loremin here, Aurora isn't on the edge of civilized space. Tae Ceti is a pretty centralized place from what I'm aware of. We do have inspectors; they're called Internal Affairs, and Heads of Staff. It's more like a station in the middle of the Mojave; you're in a super developed area but still in nowhere, if that makes sense.
Valkrae Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 I've got no issue with Kane having his jacket, I feel as if would cause some conflict RP between him and IAA guys and the Heads of Staff. Sure, it may be against NT Regulations, but is it against server rules? I don't believe so. The Jacket could easily just be carried onto the arrivals shuttle, and Kane is scary enough to frighten whatever Cadet they probably have manning the entry checkpoint.
Gollee Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 I've got no issue with Kane having his jacket, I feel as if would cause some conflict RP between him and IAA guys and the Heads of Staff. Sure, it may be against NT Regulations, but is it against server rules? I don't believe so. The Jacket could easily just be carried onto the arrivals shuttle, and Kane is scary enough to frighten whatever Cadet they probably have manning the entry checkpoint. This man/woman/bizarre wifi creature has a good point.
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