Mary Sue test.

[Gollee]

Hey all, found this again.

http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm

After running Inis through it, with her recent alterations, she now scores at 14. Rather than a 40 something.

What about you guys?

[Guest]

Funny test. I couldn't stomach the xe'ing and xir'ing. Had to stop. :^)

[Rusty Shackleford]

Andrea Markowski ended up with a total combined score of 1.

Mhm.

[Killerhurtz]

I'm with Calla on this one. I really tried, but the xe'ing was impossible.

I'll be glad to use it if someone finds a non-retarded version, but until then, eh.

[Gollee]

Yeah, it's annoying, I would have prefered a s/he and such, rather than stupid gender neutral pronouns that just sounds stupid.

[witchbells]

Phoebe Essel thankfully ended with 11 points.

[Killerhurtz]

Seriously though it's got everything. Xe's, stupid shit AND a patreon.

Found a better one: http://katfeete.net/writing/suestart.php

Though I feel some parts are not fair:

 

A character who disagrees with Sybil ends up getting in trouble, being dreadfully injured, or dying horribly in a way that proves that Sybil was right all along.

 

THAT'S THE REASON SHE'S A RD

Though I got a score of 27 on that.

 

In general, you care deeply about Sybil, but you're smart enough to let her stand on her own, without burdening her with your personal fantasies or propping her up with idealization and over-dramatization. Sybil is a healthy character with a promising career ahead of her.

 

And I feel that's accurate, and damn right I'm going to make things happen.

[canon35]

Raiskarin, my new unathi, got a 8. Not very high, probably because he isn't well-developed.

[rrrrrr]

walter got a 13 on the test killerhurtz linked, riperino

[canon35]

Got a 21 on Killerhurtz's test.

[Demonofthefall]

This is a stupid question I am embarrassed to ask, what is a Mary Sue?

[Hackie]

This is a stupid question I am embarrassed to ask, what is a Mary Sue?

 

Copy pasta from the most accurate source online; urban dictionary.

 

TOP DEFINITION

Mary Sue

See Mary-Sue. A female fanfiction character who is so perfect as to be annoying. The male equivlalent is the Marty-Stu. Often abbreviated to "Sue". A Mary Sue character is usually written by a beginning author. Often, the Mary Sue is a self-insert with a few "improvements" (ex. better body, more popular, etc). The Mary Sue character is almost always beautiful, smart, etc... In short, she is the "perfect" girl. The Mary Sue usually falls in love with the author's favorite character(s) and winds up upstaging all of the other characters in the book/series/universe. There are several main types of Mary Sue:

Victim!Sues: The Victim!Sue is your whiny, wimpy, pathetic female character who can't seem to do much of anything except cry and get herself into trouble that the romantic interest of the fic has to rescue her from.

Warrior!Sues: The Warrior!Sue is usually loud, obnoxious and (of course) an amazing warrior. She'll usually have some tragic past that led her to become a warrior, and she'll upstage all of the Canonical characters with her mad Sueish powerz.

Mage!Sue: Similar to the Warrior!Sue, the Mage!Sue has amazing stregnth in magic, or has a magical power that nobody else has. She'll usually wind up upstaging all of the magical characters of the series.

Punk!Sue: Also called Noncomformist!Sue or Goth!Sue, the Punk!Sue is usually written by female beginners in the 11-15 age group. The Punk!Sue is loud, obnoxious, annoying and generally the type of person who you'd want to send off to boot camp for six months. The Punk!Sue almost always has angst coming out of her ears and isn't really a bad person, she's just oh!-so-angry at whatever tragic past the author has chosen to give her. The Punk!Sue is based on what the 11-15 year old author thinks is "cool" and wishes she could be. This includes Evil!Sues.

Misfit!Sue: This includes all Sues who are supposedly geeks, nerds, misfits, etc. Usually, the Misfit!Sue doesn't start out as inhumanly beautiful, but winds up getting a makeover and finding out she had the potential to be a guy-magnet (or girl-magnet, depending on the genre) all along. Also includes the "My parents want me to do this but I want to do that and it's not fair!!one!" type of Sue. Usually, this Sue is very bookish and smart, but will find some sort of physical talent nobody expected and become a star as a result.

Another thing to note is that a Sue will usually have a completely off-the-wall name, like "Viquetoria". The more wierd and pretentious the name of the character, the more likely it is that she's a Sue.

Finally, Sues often have wierd, improbable or impossible bloodlines. A secret half-elf child of Elrond and a nameless human would be an example of this. A character who was Dumbledore's grandchild and Tom Riddle's daughter would be another example.

The character in the HP fanfic was a complete and utter Sue. She moved across the street from Harry. She was beautiful, smart and pretty. They fell in wuv almost immediately. She threw all of the characters out of character and generally upstaged everyone. It was quite obnoxious.

[Gollee]

From Killer's test:

In general, you care deeply about Inis Truesight, but you're smart enough to let her stand on her own, without burdening her with your personal fantasies or propping her up with idealization and over-dramatization. Inis Truesight is a healthy character with a promising career ahead of her.

[Carver]

21 on Killerhurtz' test. Not bad.

[punkDMD]

I wouldn't worry too much about these Mary Sue tests, especially since they're really meant for characters in single author stories rather than community-run role playing experiences. Any character, so long as they don't have the standard mary sue tropes of a supertragic background, otherworldly appearances, or a total lack of player represented flaws... is able to work well in this kind of setting. Other players, characters, and the game itself will force you to RP situations you wouldn't necessarily wish upon your character, and they'll discover their own relationships with those other characters, as opposed to having them hand picked.

[CampinKiller]

From Killer's:

In general, you care deeply about Marc Price, but you're smart enough to let him stand on his own, without burdening him with your personal fantasies or propping him up with idealization and over-dramatization. Marc Price is a healthy character with a promising career ahead of him.

Was a 15.

[Kazkin]

Keyli S'epnok, got a -2 on the OP test and 14 on Killa's test.

Edited December 14, 2015 by Guest

[ChevalierMalFet]

I did Killer's test and got a 14 for Sarad Amrapurkar, 12 of which is because he has the same opinions as me. I'm satisfied.

[VoltageHero]

Ugh, those pronouns. They could have just used "they" or "the character" is they wanted to remain neutral.

"Does your character keep their physique, despite that their eating and/or exercising habits decree that they should be under or overweight."

Donuts are healthy, right?

From Golle's: 6. (Dank).

From Killer's: Jade Rathel is only a little like you. She is not at all cool; in fact, she thinks cool is a temperature reading, and when she says "Oh, I just put on whatever old thing's lying around," she means "on the floor, where I threw it last night - but I turned the underwear inside out first." There's never been anything special about her that she could see; boy, is she in for a surprise. She's got no emotional scars to speak of. And she's gotten no slack from you.

In general, you care deeply about Jade Rathel, but you're smart enough to let her stand on her own, without burdening her with your personal fantasies or propping her up with idealization and over-dramatization. Jade Rathel is a healthy character with a promising career ahead of her.

_____________________

What have we learned today class? It's that Jade is still the greatest. That, or I'm supposed to make her past a lot more tragic.

[Rusty Shackleford]

With that test provided by Killer, Andrea got a 14.

"Andrea is only a little like you. She isn't really very cool: she blends into crowds, she hangs out on the fringes at parties, and wearing shades after dark makes her run into things. She may have sometimes thought that she was special, or destined for greater things, but probably dismissed the idea as a fantasy. She's got no emotional scars to speak of. And she's gotten no slack from you.

In general, you care deeply about Andrea, but you're smart enough to let her stand on her own, without burdening her with your personal fantasies or propping her up with idealization and over-dramatization. Andrea is a healthy character with a promising career ahead of her."

[NoahGoldFox]

From Killer's:

Shiny Gryphon isn't a character: he's you, or you as you'd like to be. He isn't really very cool: he blends into crowds, he hangs out on the fringes at parties, and wearing shades after dark makes him run into things. There's never been anything special about him that he could see; boy, is he in for a surprise. He's come in for his share of hurt, but gotten off with minor damage. And he's gotten no slack from you.

In general, you care deeply about Shiny Gryphon, but you're smart enough to let him stand on his own, without burdening him with your personal fantasies or propping him up with idealization and over-dramatization. Shiny Gryphon is a healthy character with a promising career ahead of him.

Score Breakdown

Mirror, Mirror: Mirror, Mirror 37

Beware the Monks of Cool: You Mean Plaid Is Out? 8

'Tis Your Destiny: Plain Joe 2

Oh, the Trauma: Can't Complain 4

Momma Loves Me Best: Momma HATES Him! 3

Total: 54

It seems right >3< shiny gryphon is just suppose to be a cooler me

[Gollee]

From Killer's:

Shiny Gryphon isn't a character: he's you, or you as you'd like to be. He isn't really very cool: he blends into crowds, he hangs out on the fringes at parties, and wearing shades after dark makes him run into things. There's never been anything special about him that he could see; boy, is he in for a surprise. He's come in for his share of hurt, but gotten off with minor damage. And he's gotten no slack from you.

In general, you care deeply about Shiny Gryphon, but you're smart enough to let him stand on his own, without burdening him with your personal fantasies or propping him up with idealization and over-dramatization. Shiny Gryphon is a healthy character with a promising career ahead of him.

Score Breakdown

Mirror, Mirror: Mirror, Mirror 37

Beware the Monks of Cool: You Mean Plaid Is Out? 8

'Tis Your Destiny: Plain Joe 2

Oh, the Trauma: Can't Complain 4

Momma Loves Me Best: Momma HATES Him! 3

Total: 54

It seems right >3< shiny gryphon is just suppose to be a cooler me

 

From a writing perspective, that's a really bad idea.

[Guest]

Noah, you might wish to read up on what self-inserts are.

 

Vira Taryk is only a little like you. She is not at all cool; in fact, she thinks cool is a temperature reading, and when she says "Oh, I just put on whatever old thing's lying around," she means "on the floor, where I threw it last night - but I turned the underwear inside out first." She may have sometimes thought that she was special, or destined for greater things, but probably dismissed the idea as a fantasy. She's come in for her share of hurt, but gotten off with minor damage. And she's gotten no slack from you.

In general, you care deeply about Vira Taryk, but you're smart enough to let her stand on her own, without burdening her with your personal fantasies or propping her up with idealization and over-dramatization. Vira Taryk is a healthy character with a promising career ahead of her.

Mirror, Mirror: I Love Her, I Let Her Go 6

Beware the Monks of Cool: She's The Anti-Cool 3

'Tis Your Destiny: I'm Destined For What? 6

Oh, the Trauma: Can't Complain 6

Momma Loves Me Best: Momma HATES Her! 1

Total: 22

[NoahGoldFox]

>3< well self-inserting isent that bad, and it makes it so you can RP faster and easier because its how you react not how your character would react.

[Rusty Shackleford]

>3< well self-inserting isent that bad, and it makes it so you can RP faster and easier because its how you react not how your character would react.

 

Self inserts are not always bad, but as a general rule, yes, they are. Because it means if someone insults your character, it's much easier to perceive it as a personal attack. It could also result in powergaming, using the excuse' "It's what I would do in this situation." It's better to have the fourth wall separating you and your character(s) most of the time.