Complaint - Delta/OneOneThreeEight

[CampinKiller]

BYOND Key: CampinKiller

Player Byond Key: OneOneThreeEight

Staff involved: UnknownMurder (I think?)

Reason for complaint: Powergaming/Atmos Grief/Chucklefuckery

Approximate Date/Time: 27MAR, 1930 CDST

Delta was a Juggernaut in a cult round that had escalated to full blown riot after they tried to kidnap the HoS (me), and I escaped after they killed or converted basically all of Security. After escaping and getting to Medical, then sneaking onto the Bridge, I meet the HoP, who has the Bridge locked down, and says there's a hostile organic (Delta) in the Captain's office. I send an emergency message to Central Command, and as we are about to leave, Delta bursts open the wall to space that he had made from the Captain's Office, which proceeds to cause the death of myself, the HoP, the CMO, and a Psychologist. Please note that Delta was a JUGGERNAUT, which can absorb ridiculous amounts of damage, and instead of coming at the four of us with that knowledge, decided to tear down a wall in a fit of powergaming/idiocy/gank of the CMO and Psych, despite the options otherwise. After we're all dead, I also witness Delta killing a cultist, and acting like a greytide in the cult chat. Honestly, the entire round had been going great until it was cut short when Delta just chucklefucked the Bridge, forcing the AI to call a shuttle.

[UnknownMurder]

I'm going to list out the things I know of, however... I was not briefly told of Delta's breaching the areas as I was focused with another issue.

I do know that the cultists told Delta to kill people whom I presumed to be a threat. Still, I was very concerned with Delta's speaking like a greytide in a cult chat which I had not gotten back to Delta.

Note: It was my first round of trial.

[Guest]

Hi.

A few things I wish to point out, first off. Constructs are bound to their summoners and all other cultists equally. They are not to harm either their summoners or the cult. They are to obey orders from their cultists.

 

You are a Cultist!

You have a talisman in your possession; one that will help you start the cult on this station. Use it well and remember - there are others.

You are an antagonist! Within the rules, try to act as an opposing force to the crew. Further RP and try to make sure other players have fun! If you are confused or at a loss, always adminhelp, and before taking extreme actions, please try to also contact the administration! Think through your actions and make the roleplay immersive! Please remember all rules aside from those without explicit exceptions apply to antagonists.

You remember one thing from the dark teachings of your master... nahlizet is hide...

You are playing a Juggernaut. Though slow, you can withstand extreme punishment, and rip apart enemies and walls alike.

You are still bound to serve your creator, follow their orders and help them complete their goals at all costs.

Izemut Scal'a'har talks into the head of security's headset

Anna Alvasdottir yells, "GO AND DO HIS WORK, MY SISTER!"

Juggernaut (491) makes a horrific loud droning noise.

 

That was me getting put into a juggernaught. See that order? It doesn't bar me from doing anything than what it implies, and that is to destroy the unbelievers. Do note, that I did not murderbone every non-cultist in sight, only the ones that were blatantly resisting, active and against the interests of the cult. If they were bound by cultists or being converted, I left them alone purposefully. There were a fair deal that I did not chase down or kill.

 

After escaping and getting to Medical, then sneaking onto the Bridge, I meet the HoP, who has the Bridge locked down, and says there's a hostile organic (Delta) in the Captain's office.

 

Yes. I burst in and made my appearance, hoping to get a reaction. I stood still for a bit, making an emote of horrifically screeching like a mechanical monstrosity. I got shot at in response by the HoP who was the only one I saw in the bridge when I arrived. At that point, it's clear you folks are wanting to take potshots at me. Since the juggernaught can tell that you folks have shooty things that can destroy me, and that you were gathered in numbers, I opted to take the smarter route.

Did I know the entire command staff was gathered in the bridge? No, I did not, but a juggernaught does not hesitate or question themselves, and given the response with weapons from the HoP, I'm curious though, even though you could clearly hear me breaking walls and such, why didn't you folks relocate and run? Why were you so adamant on staying in the bridge, even though the HoP said "hey uh there's a thing right in the bridge"?

 

Please note that Delta was a JUGGERNAUT, which can absorb ridiculous amounts of damage, and instead of coming at the four of us with that knowledge, decided to tear down a wall in a fit of powergaming/idiocy/gank of the CMO and Psych, despite the options otherwise.

 

Buuut, as a juggernaught, I used my immense strength to also take down r-walls and pave my way to the bridge in order to punish the resistant unbelievers of the cult of Nar'sie. The same end was still achieved anyway, are you upset that I didn't take the stupid way, throwing myself at lasers and god knows what else you may have packed in your satchel? I hardly consider this breaking character, the same end was achieved with different means. Was I endeavoring to ruin your round? No, I was expecting you folks would be okay with getting killed in a video game.

 

After we're all dead, I also witness Delta killing a cultist

 

Atututut, hang on here. Citation needed, because this would be a legitimate accusation if I had actually done such a thing. Who exactly did I kill that was a cultist? I would like logs accompanying this as proof. Who did I smash my gauntlet into multiple times? Was it in the bridge? Because all of those folks were non-cult.

Every single person that I directly killed that round was a non-cultist, from my own memory. And I do not believe I'm wrong here.

 

Honestly, the entire round had been going great until it was cut short when Delta just chucklefucked the Bridge, forcing the AI to call a shuttle.

 

Do you think for a moment that I had actually known the entire basket of important game-progression eggs were in the bridge? When I had breached in to give pursuit with the HoP that had initially opened fire upon me on sight, I did so thinking only the HoP was in there. I remember you were still kidnapped in a locker at some point. I didn't know the CMO was in there nor did I know the psych was in there. Nevertheless I did as my duties as entailed.

So yes, while I do apologize for the carnage by itself, I was RPly bound to do so, and RP rules took higher priority than the one on "murderboning" because the RP escalation and situation justified it.

BTW, about the gooftalk. It was only Meow and I for awhile and nobody else could hear us. I did say "cuck" but by no means was I referring to anyone else in the round. Only Meow and I could hear it. We were otherwise RPing with the cultists themselves very seriously. I do however apologize for letting that seep into IC in the tiny, practically invisible with an exception to ghosts, sort of way. I will endeavor to not make jokes, quips or anything of the sort in the future in IC.

[Guest]

Sorry for the double post, but this was effectively everyone:

 

 

So, who amongst these did I kill?

[LordFowl]

As the Head of Personnel in question, I did not find Delta's behaviour particularly egregious. I saw a bad scary monster, I shot it, it killed me. That's the short of it. That Delta did not know there were other Heads of Staff in the bridge is questionable, because the Head of Security also shot it, but it's not really important. While Delta could have very easily killed us without venting the bridge, and perhaps shouldn't have vented the bridge, venting the bridge ultimately really is not 'atmos grief'.

One of the Juggernauts killed Izemut Sc'ala'har. Whether that was Delta or Nanako I cannot say.

Delta's behaviour on the shuttle was not called into question here on the complaint, but I think it bears mentioning. He wordlessly killed anyone attempting to get on the shuttle, even though there were other cultists there, which goes against his "I didn't kill anyone unless there were no cultists there to convert them". He did this even as the shuttle docked, and as it left, which some could qualify as End of Round grief.

[UnknownMurder]

As the Head of Personnel in question, I did not find Delta's behaviour particularly egregious. I saw a bad scary monster, I shot it, it killed me. That's the short of it. That Delta did not know there were other Heads of Staff in the bridge is questionable, because the Head of Security also shot it, but it's not really important. While Delta could have very easily killed us without venting the bridge, and perhaps shouldn't have vented the bridge, venting the bridge ultimately really is not 'atmos grief'.

One of the Juggernauts killed Izemut Sc'ala'har. Whether that was Delta or Nanako I cannot say.

Delta's behaviour on the shuttle was not called into question here on the complaint, but I think it bears mentioning. He wordlessly killed anyone attempting to get on the shuttle, even though there were other cultists there, which goes against his "I didn't kill anyone unless there were no cultists there to convert them". He did this even as the shuttle docked, and as it left, which some could qualify as End of Round grief.

 

If I remember correctly, this would be Nanako; she was dealt with.

EDIT: It is Nanako. Killing Izemut Sc'ala'har whom was a cultist member was Nanako. She was warned for this.

[Guest]

Delta's behaviour on the shuttle was not called into question here on the complaint, but I think it bears mentioning. He wordlessly killed anyone attempting to get on the shuttle, even though there were other cultists there, which goes against his "I didn't kill anyone unless there were no cultists there to convert them". He did this even as the shuttle docked, and as it left, which some could qualify as End of Round grief.

 

There was only one that I slew on the shuttle. I had assumed that because of my orders and that the situation was still progressing as it was, that it would not be considered "end of round grief" if I were to perform an act of killing in the shuttle area that was justified by roleplay reasons and not just for the sake of grief.

I'll take a 3 day ban if I am found to be mistaken.

[Lucychan42]

I would like to put in my own point that I was among those slaughtered in the escape shuttle (this is assuming I was not the only one). To explain my contribution to this complaint, yes. Both constructs immediately slaughtered me with no warning or interaction the moment I boarded the escape shuttle (that they had delayed with what I recall to have required one person, as stated by the admin announcement) and the cultists involved joined in. It was an immediate gank from what definitions of the word I've observed, and if escape shuttle killing is considered grief, then the cultists involved in my death and the constructs are guilty of it.

Edit: Severely trimmed down my post to get straight to the point. I had detailed most of the round and my experiences, but it was excessive for this matter.

Edited March 28, 2016 by Guest

[CampinKiller]

This can be taken down, as it was mainly made with the salt mines working.

[Garnascus]

Nice to see this resolved peacefully. Ill lock and archive this in 24 hours if nobody else has anything to add.