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Getting lots of snark recently regarding this.


We calling 'Plasma' Plasma or Phoron? The custom lore on the wiki is filled with the term Phoron but I'm getting BTFO with classics such as "that's a funny way of spelling Plasma" and "Don't know what that is, maybe mine Plasma instead?"


Pls end my torment.

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Much like NSS Aurora/NSS Exodus, it's one of those things that isn't standardized. I just use them interchangeably, it's not that weird for a substance to have two names.

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It's pretty much used interchangably between phoron and Plasma. We did have a suggestion by realm awhile back to rename it to romanovichian or something similar because plasma was found in the romanovich cloud, but it got shot down for some reason.

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Using the term 'Plasma' has always, ALWAYS irked me. Scientifically speaking, plasma is a 4th state of matter made up of ionized gases. Yet, ingame we can cool this substance, make is solid, grind it up, and breathe it (With pretty bad consequences). It's not plasma. Plasma is a state of matter, not an actual substance.


Phoron is a made up word, and would better suit the substance. I always treated it that Phoron was the actual technical term, and Plasma was the slang. Phoron /is/ highly energized, and a lot of its characteristics in the gaseous state could be compared to actual plasma.


My IC theory is that Phoron is a carbon-based substance, made of xeno-based matter and can be manipulated in a myriad of ways. It can form crystalline structures, purified into gas, compressed into sheets, etc etc etc. I wouldn't say it's a new element, but it's a specific chain of a compounds that can only be found in certain parts of the galaxy, and people don't really understand bluespace physics to fully synthesize it.

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Toxins = plasma = phoron.


They're all the same.


IC: I'm not a lore-type person, but I imagine "Phoron" is used by those who are strict as fuck or have a thing for being scientifically accurate. "Plasma" would be used by folks who really don't give a shit, or by folks who do it to piss off the first type of folks.

OOC: Plasma is generally used by those who have been playing the game for longer than a year, maybe 2 years. Unless they actually like phoron as a name for a made-up substance that defies all laws of physics and is not even constant in its qualities.


Another way to look at it IC is, since plasma is relatively new (I THINK?), it was probably originally referred to as plasma. When the science community caught up somewhere down the line, they gave it a proper name. So the old folks still call it plasma.

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Much like NSS Aurora/NSS Exodus, it's one of those things that isn't standardized. I just use them interchangeably, it's not that weird for a substance to have two names.

 

Just wanna point out that NSS Aurora/NSS Exodus are standardized. Our old map was the NSS Aurora, when we switched over to the new map we decided the Aurora was temporarily decommissioned for repairs, and that we were playing on the NSS Exodus. And when we switch over to the new map, well; we'll see what MapTeam+Lore chooses for it.

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We can't exactly ignore literally every mechanic in the game saying it's phoron. I also take a very dim view of how unwelcoming and condescending it is when people snark over the correct term. Both are "correct". It's unfair to punish people for using either. It's the same reason I just ignore people who call the station the Exodus or the Aurora; we're in a weird limbo since the code shift and it won't be resolved until a bit after the new map. We're not even in Tau Ceti anymore if you believe the in-game newscasters.


Both terms are acceptable. It's following the lore to say either-or. Phoron is the official name, plasma is another term for it in nomenclature, since plasma already means "ionized matter" or something.

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Plasma is basically fire. When you strike a match; the stuff on the tip of the match is plasma. When you collapse a molecular cloud and the pressure and density around the point of collapse increases until deuterium fusion happens; that bright star thing is made of plasma.


So technically speaking, until it's on fire (which according to Murphy's law should happen very quickly after it's release) you should call it phoron.

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Plasma is basically fire. When you strike a match; the stuff on the tip of the match is plasma. When you collapse a molecular cloud and the pressure and density around the point of collapse increases until deuterium fusion happens; that bright star thing is made of plasma.


So technically speaking, until it's on fire (which according to Murphy's law should happen very quickly after it's release) you should call it phoron.

 

This is the correct definition.


Phoron is not a state of matter, it is its own element. It is unique in that it can adopt multiple states of matter whether by condensation, compression into a solid or transferal into a gas. It has another unique property in that it is incredibly flammable and serves as an excellent ignition agent. Through energy or laser guns, it effectively works as the substitute for how gunpowder or primer would work for ballistic firearms. When used to expel incredible heat or create a powerful reaction, phoron shifts states to plasma. So when there's a phoron leak and a spark occurs in a phoron-filled room, what happens next can be correctly defined as a plasma fire, as it becomes electrically conductive and highly responsive to magnetic fields. It is also extremely sensitive to gravitational compressions and will generate intense pressure and heat as a result of the reaction creating that energy.


The best visual example of plasma at work is looking at a neon light. Plasma is generated via passing electrical arcs through gas being put through a nozzle. In the case of phoron, it's the primary reagent at work that is used to create plasma gaseousness.


Plasma is a gas to what a metal is to all solids.

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Guest Complete Garbage
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Using the term 'Plasma' has always, ALWAYS irked me. Scientifically speaking, plasma is a 4th state of matter made up of ionized gases. Yet, ingame we can cool this substance, make is solid, grind it up, and breathe it (With pretty bad consequences). It's not plasma. Plasma is a state of matter, not an actual substance.

 

Not sure if someone mentioned this already(because I'm too lazy to read) but, especially in English, there are a mind-blowing amount of words that are spelled the same and mean different things.

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Using the term 'Plasma' has always, ALWAYS irked me. Scientifically speaking, plasma is a 4th state of matter made up of ionized gases. Yet, ingame we can cool this substance, make is solid, grind it up, and breathe it (With pretty bad consequences). It's not plasma. Plasma is a state of matter, not an actual substance.

 

Not sure if someone mentioned this already(because I'm too lazy to read) but, especially in English, there are a mind-blowing amount of words that are spelled the same and mean different things.

 

yet calling a certain two-eared carnivorous domesticated animal a "cat" is not the correct scientific nomenclature, felis catus is.


Phoron is the correct term if you want to be scientific. Less educated characters would probably still refer to it as plasma.

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As of now, phoron is the current accepted nomenclature. Unbinned suggestions notwithstanding.

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