New Visitor Regs'

[Zundy]

http://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6998#p68554

Why? Are we going back to the "Visitors shouldn't be employees" thing again? Didn't we all agree that off duty characters could come on station using the visitor role? Did some really bad shit go down/people try and take command as visitors?

[Guest]

Although I don't directly represent CCIAA interests in the slightest, I can best explain what happened that most likely prompted the change.

There was a recent state of affairs where a captain ordered a head of personnel to pick from one of the security team based on their independent qualifications and willingness to lead, and promote them to Interim Head of Security.

The head of personnel in particular opted to ignore the captain's directive on the matter. Rather than simply picking someone simply unqualified from that department, the HoP promoted a visitor with no actual qualifications to be the interim head of security, without even reviewing it with command and receiving the captain's OK for it; this caused a giant schism in the chain of command, which in turn caused even more strife than what was needed. The HoP managed to break several regulations all at once, willingly, as a head of staff in favor of promoting someone they likely recognized as part of their own inner clique to a role of responsibility that was not even remotely cleared with the captain.

The blatant and completely stupid conduct on the matter of the HoP led to CCIA's hand being forced on this matter.

From the background end for visitors, in terms of what the lore-focused lens is centered on for the visitation program and how to generally RP it:

1.) You accept no pay or departmental privileges as an employee-visitor aside from what funds are deposited in your account as you start the shift/arrive on the station late.

2.) Employees exercising off-time and visitation rights onboard NanoTrasen stations are not to be resuming their jobs unless extraneous circumstances demand emergency reassignment, especially command-clearance staff. They will not receive immediate pay for their volunteer work.

VIPs are a different boat that will be discussed another time.

The bottom line is, if you're off-duty, you better damn well stay off-duty until the beginning of next round or an emergency pops up and more help is needed.

Would really hate to see people job-banned or whitelist stripped for this simple nonsense that's easy to avoid getting caught up in, it's not a good thing to hear about.

[Zundy]

Right so in an emergency visitors (read: off duty employees) can be assigned?

If that's the case then fine but it might be worth rewording the reg' so it says that. Seems massively retarded to not assign the last qualified doctor on station after a cataclysm because "lel you're a visitor".

Edit: Never mind, it actually says it already. All good in the hood with me then.

[Guest]

Yeah, but we don't expect worst-case scenarios anyway! They never happen, oh no!...

Riiiight?

[UnknownMurder]

Just change your job titles to Assistant and you're good. Unlike people's opinions on assistants, there's no shame in being assistants. It's mechanically the same as Visitors. You can just ask for a job as Assistant.

Visitors are just 'visiting' the station, not coming to take the job as most people thought. Off duty personnel can still come and take a break. They can be given a job during emergencies. It's really self-explanatory.

[Shadow]

As said in FTs post, in the "most dire situation" visitors can be promoted.

That means code red and beyond. "Most dire situation" doesn't mean a single person got killed.

But never ever can any visitor be promoted to a command position.

[Zundy]

Makes sense to me shadieshadz.

[Skull132]

Wait, this doesn't make sense. With the chance of being nitpicky as hell, if I may...

 

Visitors to the NSS Exodus are not contracted to work on the Exodus under any circumstance. Even if they work for NanoTrasen. Promotion of visitors to station ranks except in the most dire of circumstances will be regarded as neglect of duty, and/or exceeding official powers.

 

Three different cases:

- Being "Contracted to work on the Exodus"

- Being contracted to work for NanoTrasen in general

- Being promoted while aboard the Exodus as a visitor

Point one makes no sense what so ever. It would be easier and clearer to state that, "Visitors to the NSS Exodus are not listed as currently active duty personnel for the duration of their stay," or something like that. It is not your assignment at that specific moment to deal with the crap that's unfolding, and the preference should always be on the people who are on active assignment to the Exodus.

Semantics, yes. But semantics, in this case, matter. As does clarity of communication.

I do agree with the principle, though. Active duty personnel are active duty for a reason, and off-duty personnel should only be utilized in menial roles at most. Don't promote Visitor Doofus because he's your bud, promote the person who's actually given the task of taking care of this shit today.

[ForgottenTraveller]

It could be better worded. And a rewrite is possible. In regards to some visitors getting promotions to command and other roles. There have been points where they are visiting, and work for other NT stations or vessels.

And treating it like for example they worked at McDonalds and they were picking up a shift at a different store in the chain. While they were travelling or something. While they all work for McDonalds (NT) each store (Station) has its own employees (Crew). And in the event some employees of that store go to their store on their day off to eat. Due to accounting and resources unless they are in an emergency. They will not be wanting to hand you out extra hours off the cuff toss you an extra uniform which they have to recollect and everything else that goes along with it, as they have a store budget, and a maximum number of employee hours used per manager and shift. Along with benefits and other issues to balance.

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Disclaimer: I have never worked for McDonalds or any other fast food outlet, I do not know their exact internal workings, nor do I care. These are fundamentals of business using a globally recognized and prolific brand in order to make a point that more people can understand