Haveatya Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 The paramedic (and EMT by relation) are designed to get to employees around the station and render aid quickly. This is great and most of the Paramedics I know are good at the job (or are new and will be soon). The problem here is a lack of access to getting to patients. The janitor has more access to science, security, and engineering then an emergency medical provider. I lobby for increasing the access of paramedic to basic areas of security, science, and engineering. On this note I think the paramedic should get full access to mining (not cargo) because their job is very clearly there to assist fallen miners and being unable to get them is crippling. Link to comment
Pratepresidenten Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I can get behind this tbh. You're expected to rush out at the sign of injury, and you're kinda met with a massive wall that is your average airlock to X department. And you have to waste precious seconds (or even minutes) waiting for someone to get off their ass, or the AI to un-crash itself. Would be nice to provide them with basic departmental access. And maybe access to the mining refinery? Link to comment
Arrow768 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Well, this suggestion comes up every few months for different departments. (medical, security, engineering) I think a good comparison would be paramedics being called to a company because of an injury. Dispatch generally tells them (the company) to place a employee outside of the company to lead the way to the injured person. If they dont do that, then any rescue efforts will be delayed. If the AI is on top of things, then it can open the doors on its own. Medical could ask for someone to be positioned at the front doors to let the paramedic in, when he arrives. I do not think that is needed, as there are many ways of gaining access to a department already. (If there is an emergency, you could always smash in a window to get there) The only thing I could get behind is access to mining, due to the huge number of injuries we have there Link to comment
Haveatya Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 I think the factor that makes reasonable is that janitors have more department access to clean up dirt than a paramedic does to save lives. Where's the rationale there? Overall I think almost all staff should have access to general areas of the department. This being engineers, paramedics, sec. Heads should have access to everywhere except captain's office. This isn't the reason I am here though. I'm advocating a very reasonable change based off current access and adding more variation between the arguably superior emergency physician and the EMT/Paramedic. Link to comment
LordFowl Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 No. Equating it to janitor's is silly - the job and the reasonings is completely different. Janitor's have such wide access because if they didn't they literally cannot do their job. They can stand at the door of security for twenty minutes, begging to be let in to fix a lightbulb or clean a mess, but security and even the AI will often be too busy, because cleaning a mess is of little to no priority on their radar. The AI and the departmental staff on the other hand should be more than happy to let you in to take care of a body, because it is a priority to both of you. On that note, giving paramedics just access to mining is also a flawed idea in and of itself - most accidents don't happen in mining, they happen in the mines. Paramedics should have EVA access already, so they're golden. If miners brought the corpse into mining on their own initiative, they're already there to open the door for paramedics - golden. Overall the janitor's general access is a special, controversial thing done more for mechanical reasons than "it just makes sense". You'll find that most access allotments are done for mechanical reasons like that. Link to comment
Haveatya Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 The mining airlock is what paramedics want access to. Not mining itself. That airlock is the only real option when trying to get into the mines for a SAR and has a hoist and ladder. Link to comment
LordFowl Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Paramedics have access to the four other airlocks in maintenance, and there should be a hoist and ladder located in EVA storage. Link to comment
Haveatya Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 You appear resistant just for the sake of resistance. I'd like to hear other input. You just tell me what else I can do, which is stuff I already know. 4/5 times miners are mining when other miners fall and techs can't let people into mining. Paramedics have access to the lock already but would end up in somewhere they can't get out of. Link to comment
Zundy Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 So you want access to mining to get at the miners in mining or to get access to the airlock in mining? Link to comment
Haveatya Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 So you want access to mining to get at the miners in mining or to get access to the airlock in mining? Yes. Link to comment
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