Cassie

I'm here, it's 10am in Britain and I have enjoyed a cup of tea and a muffin for tea. I am really calm right now. Please understand this is how I type during serious discussions and there is no offense intended. I am not going to hurt you. If I wish to be vicious and I am quite direct and obvious, my posting style is nothing like this. People perceive my directness as hostility, but when I am direct I am direct and when I am hostile I am hostile. I agree with many of your points also. I'm straight with what I do and don't agree with, this is just how I am and it shouldn't be taken that bad. Please re-consider your preconceptions of me based on previous blunt posts and read my above posts in a young female, 20-something, a bit non-serious at time and slips a joke in, also a British girl voice who occasionally enlongates her "o"s, talks non-stop in a disorganized and incoherent matter (I make no sense irl I stick to text for a reason!), and pauses mid-sentence to think of things then says weird stuff anyway, as that's how I actually talk if we were on skype or something. If you can't... I can't help you. What can I say bub? http://vocaroo.com/i/s1bzU7uZYREw

3. On the station, people who play security complain that security can become repetitive as they have to patrol all the time, even during non-antag rounds. It becomes boring and they don't like to do it all the time. I was thinking of something along the lines of break times or heads allowing more regular breaks between officers, but I don't know. 4. I'm definitely not saying security can't swear, or can't talk informally. In fact, I dislike it when comms become militant and it is quite anti-fun. What I'm suggesting, as in my OP post is that security act a tiny bit more realistically for a security role. I don't like the term "realism" to counter fun in any way, but in this situation it's to tone down something that's getting a bit too much (see spoiler for an example). There's a few roles on station that IC-wise would be required to watch their public relations due to the nature of the actual job: 1. Command (High responsibility) 2. Security (Medium responsibility) 3. Service (Low responsibility) Unless you're RP'ing a corrupt security officer (who wouldn't broadcast abuse openly where they can be reported), do it in a way that it makes sense that individual has gotten away with that behaviour. IE: Verbally abusing prisoners in their cells when they're alone, and emoting or doing any other mechanic to ensure it looks like planned RP. Like, not in public and in front of heads where it's obvious. The realism here is that an officer wouldn't be specieist or call their prisoner a "bitch" in front of the HoS or Captain, and if they got caught they'd be scolded/punished for it and not just told "Meh, you committed a crime.". To tell you the truth it doesn't matter if my post gives bad vibes or not - it's about the validity of my points which is the most important matter and nothing to do with how people see me, or heck, even my signature. Everything else is irrelevant, it all boils down to If those questions are to be answered or not. I bring forth my honest opinions, but I allow them to be challenged, that's how discussion operates.

I totally agree with you Enkas. It's a roleplay server, not a light RP server. We should facilitate good RP and try not to win all the time, it's more fun making a story together than just ganking.

So, because I feel that a lot of the conflict is caused by the following questions not being answered, I think a lot of the discussion and debate around security can be solved with the following questions being answered, preferably by admins but discussion is fine too: 1. Is good security RP-focused or OOC focused? (Explanation: Well, I am already aware security is there to combat antags, and deter workplace regulations being broken, sometimes deal with griefers (I personally think they shouldn't have to). But the question is asking if security is RP-focused - IE: Round events and victory outcomes don't impact on ability as sec officer, but rather the ability to roleplay an interesting security officer, or OOC-focused on keeping the round 'clean'. Or both? Is security judged by how well they can catch crooks or shoot a gun? Take this analogy: On a HRP server, is a bartender skilled at the amount of recipes the player can make from memory, and how fast they can make a drink? Or how much of an RP-creating service person they roleplay as?) 2. Security vs. antags. Play to kill the antag or play to make an interesting and unpredictable drama? 2a. How serious is security ganking vs antag ganking? 3. When can security come off patrol? (In this regard, sounds very boring to do this every round with minimal interaction. Especially during extended. *shudder*) 4. Should security be allowed to verbally abuse crewpeople? (I understand this is an RP server, and also in real life you get security officers/police who are verbally abusive even though it would be in their job description specifically not to arouse more fear/anger on the station. My complaint is that abusive sec is not actually RP'ed, or just isn't RP'ed well, and it's not kept "secret" or, "under wraps" like how real corrupted people act. and if their commander like the HoS or Captain is nearby they don't blink an eye. More realistically, they would flinch and say "Excuse me, Powells, that is a violation of 'Conflict Management', where did you get your licence?". All in all, not limiting freedom, but I'm just asking for the above to be taken in consideration. Security is infamous for provoked and unprovoked verbal assaults, at this point it's not OOC'ly enjoyable or funny, here's an example: I don't wish to name names since this is a systematic example and not an attack on a specific individual. But yes, can security do that?) 5. Are players OOC'ly allowed to commit crimes (within reason)? {I don't mean to not get arrested because that's fine, I mean the OOC'ly outlook - are they allowed? I'm not talking about robbing the vault, or being clownish in general. I am talking about the minor-regulation testing employee you see in your regular workplace, maybe the one who climbs over the bar table for a drink with their friendswhen the bartender is SSD, or RP'ed barfights, or the person who ties a cable coil to a coin to get those premium cigars from the vending machine, etc. Harmless fluff crimes. ) Thanks.

Greetings, Det Genevieve Amiot here. Apologies for the late response, I have had a lot of paperwork to do. I am currently relocating to a new home within Tau Ceti and have not had time to respond to this report. I can confirm on behalf of the actions of Ms.Rathel, it was a busy shift and I understand our department must go through a lot during busy times and this can impact on stress. However, from the small amount I have witnessed. Ms. Rathel's actions were unacceptable. Ms. Rathel was verbally abusive and hostile toward people on general communications. I was an assistant for the shift, and being in that rank put me in a position where I could not directly confront her gently about her words and actions. It would be suggested, as a fellow member of security that Rathel should be pulled aside and reminded that her role is not just for protection of crewmen, but a mediator of peace and conflict management. By not following that role she is not doing her job correctly and it could cause more conflict and issues within the workplace by making it an unnecessarily hostile environment for her and her colleagues as well as ruining the workplaces atmosphere by shouting on the communications channel. I hope to see some improvement with this behavior in future. Genevieve Amiot NT Detective - Security Department

The idea of one is nice, but it sounds a bit of a boring job if you ask me. I can instantly see a lot of people bunking off this station due to minimal RP interaction. Imagine this job on an extended round? Phooey.

To be honest. Red fits security more, because it's the colour of action - which is what security gets. I don't think I've ever seen sec as an "approachable, calming, good guy" in a very long time unless they've off duty, and I get they're supposed to be but ergh. I get the logic of changing them to blue, but at the same time I don't? Changing them to blue won't make them more approachable, like, "SHUT THE HELL UP" or "Flash that bastard!" doesn't really get numbed down by blue soothing colours. Right? That aside, security shouldn't be comparable to cops (that's actually a terrible thing for SS13, see signature for details), and if I were to contribute a blue security idea, it'd look like this: Inventory: Blue and Grey jumpsuit with reinforced light armor plates. Blue beret HUD eyepiece Blue metallic version of jackboots. Well, something similar to that anyway because the woman in this drawing is probably an android of some sort.

@Bokasa: There is one flaw with your experiment. This is not an RP fluff crime, leaving animals near an intercom is likely more classed as a classic griefing crime. That affects things drastically. Examples of RP fluff crimes are: Taking alcoholic beverages out of the bar and having security notice you doing it. Climbing over the bar counter to steal bottles of alcohol when the bartender is away. Getting into a drunken verbal fight. Gambling. Basically, crimes that are RP'ed. Not sure if you're able to identify the difference, but, Bokasa it is huge. I don't personally feel that security should have to deal with grief crimes to be honest. @Johnny Mnemonic: This is great, within a few things I need to point out: This thread isn't about RP'ing as a baldie, both experience A and B require you to RP knowledge of the game as well as grammar. Just one uses emotes and the other doesn't. And, you probably missed this work of art when you came into my bar. Solomon Pierce frowns at the baldie. But yes, glad you enjoyed the experience.

BYOND Key: cassyjenelle Player Byond Key: LoneTopHat Reason for complaint: Sexual Harrassment, Trolling via byond pager during the game, IC sexual harrassment Approximate Date/Time: 26th March 2015, 2pm-ish (GMT +0, London time) So, I'm playing my character Camile Crafter, the bartender. Solomon Pierce is a security officer and is in my bar as one of my patrons. He flirts with my character, promptly kissing her on the cheek. He also repeatedly "checks out" my bartender during the shift. I shrug this off OOC'ly and don't take it seriously, just taking it as roleplaying a flirt and something I often get for playing a female character but during my gameplay after Camile rejects Solomon for a date I get a few pager requests from LoneTopHat, Solomon's player. He asked "why can't they date?", I just went with it and light-heartedly gave IC reasons as to my character is not romantically attracted to men and that, if anything she would just use him for FWB and not much more, not sensing any malicious or actual sexual intent. Anyway, we had a small discussion about our characters. Seems okay at first. Then suddenly, he asks me if I'm a guy - I assume he's joking, because why would it matter anyway? Then boom! This! I'm a bit innocent at mind, I suspected it. I even asked if it was his penis out of instinct and he said nothing, but I really, really did not actually expect a dick pic. I've recently had a bit of a trauatic moment in life (this month actually) very recently regarding sexual harassment and it caught me off guard. I wish I was more receptive to what was happening but I think that LoneTopHat shouldn't have done this. When I discussed with a friend she told me that this player actually has a reputation for similar behaviour (this was forshadowed by a mention of something similar a few days ago.) Here's some more excerpts. Is it appropiate for players to ckey troll each other through the game giving unsolicited nudes? I was about to let this slide but then he told me it was a troll, and my friend told me this is very serious behaviour and it's to be taken seriously. What if I were underage, vulnerable (as I am), etc? I don't think he really understand how serious it is, so here it is.

Does it have something to do with the fact that antags tend to be more fun to RP with than sec? Things ~happen~. So basically all (and possibly suspected) antags? Basically, powergame. Kill to win. gg. I love how you miss the entire concept of HRP and are working to end an antag round right away instead of providing an interesting storyline for other RP'ers. Very reminiscent of tgstation, I like it. Ever wondered that sometimes those "good RP'ers" don't comply because your character sucks ass at security? Ever crossed your mind? Actually, I also partially agree with you here, I don't think it's fair. Only partially because this stems from a systematic problem where nuclear and many other gamemodes are only really experienced by security because of how imbalanced the game is drawn. For everyone else, it's like a super-shitty extended round where you can't do anything - people like to entertain themselves sometimes, so good luck keeping everyone in their departments when red alert comes down. Actually, you're shitsec. If your personal feelings are affecting your ability to work, and if your OOC feelings are actually making you act like a shitlord, maybe you need to realize that some people actually might be roleplaying a realistic version of how people respond to people who can't work as security. To be honest, your issue is common, so this is not personally directed at you. Myself, if I ever commit a minor IC crime, I expect to be arrested - in the end, the only thing that pisses me off is not the actual arrest, but the fact that someone is getting OOC'ly pissed off that I did a minor crime during a non-busy extended round, roleplayed it and is channeling their rage via their shitty snowflake self-insert. When you've got that, plus LOOC bullying that doesn't stop past "TABLE THAT BITCH", security deserves what they dish out. You've got weapons, social and station power; you're not going to flip the tables on some other department that can't get away with the shit that you do. Security has many techniques as factions for handling troublesome people, and I can tell by your temperament that you couldn't handle someone who doesn't suck authority dick for two seconds because it hurts you OOC'ly. It brings to question why you even play security in the first place sometimes if you can't even RP your job? Is it for some OOC power trip? Do you get off on being in a red uniform and having the power to be the station's batman superhero? Is it all about you? God I will never know. I'm familiar of people getting bitter - the people who get bitter are control freaks who wanted to be robust brilliant and praised security with their self-inserts and it turned out the whole station wasn't kissing their ass and obeying the law all the time and it hurt their OOC feelings because they wanted that control and they can't get it. Why? I was one too, then I grew the fuck up and stopped taking the virtual world so damn seriously. We all start out "nice sec", but actual good sec are made from experience, not naivete, and unless you admit this issue lies in your inability to relieve control of everything that happens IC and focus on the OOC experience you will never, ever be happy. Stop making excuses for your incompetence as an RP'er.

In my opinion, most of the station's security RP like shit (and I don't mean general interactions with them, I mean, RP'ing their job) when it comes to arresting and dealing with situations. I've only met four officers during my stay at Aurora that actually follow proper protocol and conflict management and also RP their arrests, and the rest I've met don't know squat about it. The difference between security and the rest of the departments (with the exception of command) is that security actually has the power to get away with most of their shit, even if it's brought to light, and has the power to overwhelm any person from any department if they decide to be shit. They have the most power, and by that extension have the most responsibility. Yes, I've got characters who respect sec, some that are sec, and one even admires sec, but some of them don't - that's their personality. Should every employee be a goody two shoes who follows corporate regulations all the time? It's not like they break big corporate regulations that get noticed. No, just small things like, "Don't climb over the bar table when you're not a bartender and the bartender is not there.", sure, that's trespass, enforce that. But should nobody do it? No. Have you ever been in a workplace? People break the rules all the time, it's hilarious. What RP lala land are we living in? What would even be the point of fluff crimes? Unless you're planning to add corporate regulations to the rules. If I've ever had a character who breaks the rules, it's IC'ly lead up to and fitting the character. Workplace incidents happen all the time, especially when you have a bar. I mean, playing as a bartender I've seen tons of barfights, not just two noobs punching at each other, but rather two friends who turned sour over a squabble and drunkenly had an argument that became heated. The two OOC players who controlled these characters are friends and were roleplaying a storyline. Keep in mind this was an extended round and there were no antags. Security is called and they do their schtick of "You're under arrest for ____!" and flashed them both, placing them into the brig for hooliganism and assault - fair enough. I've had worse. I've had officers actually walk up to you and put cuffs on you right away while you're standing still. I remember leaving the bar to check up on how they arrested them. It went like this: *Officers talk into sec radio* *Puts them in brig cell.* *Sets timer* *Leaves* No RP. No interaction. Nothing. For some this would be a good arrest but this was really silly, considering the two they arrested were good RP'ers. That is a TG level of arresting people. Wow, you managed to flash and cuff someone and put them in the brig. Well done! *clap* Security has basically become powergamer central, people just focused on doing "IC jobs" well and not thinking of RP at all. The security officer will now either return on patrol to scout for more baddies or go to the sec lounge/lobby even if he managed to see openings for RP. It's not like happens "sometimes" or "rarely" on occasion, this happens all the time with the goodsec being the rare occasion. If you don't think there's anything wrong with this, think of these situations (not all of them apply to Aurora, mind you): 1. You ask a bartender for a drink. The bartender gives you the drink and stays silent. 2. You're a Nuclear operative. No one knows you exist until the station explodes. 3. You're a traitor, you see the Captain, sleepy pen him and take his ID to steal your objective item and call the shuttle and take a secluded pod. 4. You're a doctor. You see a person vomiting in medbay lobby and it's not rush hour. You scan him and give him anti-toxin and say nothing before walking away. 5. You're ERT. The antag is holding someone hostage in medbay. You see an opening while that person is talking to you about his motives and shoot him, rescuing the hostage. You put cuffs on him and toss him in perma while you call the shuttle, you tell him to "Shut the fuck up" and continue not interacting with him. Day has been saved. All these people efficiently did their IC job(s) and didn't do anything wrong, did they?

I have some very fond memories of security, very fond memories. On serious note, maybe sec should follow SIA guidelines and not police guidelines?

Security is made red for a reason; it's to hide the blood on their uniform after they harmbaton prisoners. Everyone knows this.

Getting a bit tired of repeating myself and dealing with these condescending statements and assumptions. I have working on this issue within my behavior /before/ I joined the server because this too was a big deal on other RP servers, it actually means a big deal to me. I didn't mention anyone's name or make a personal attack on people on this topic. In fact, people are coming here with their nonsense and not contributing anything at all, in fact, your very presence here coming in and mentioning this is actually quite baiting which is something as a staff member you should be reflecting on. Fair enough people having opinions and concerns, but it's showing a lack of respect that they're coming over to practically throw rocks at it and put it down before it even starts. I'm like, "Excuse me? Do you mind?" You're talking about "don't be a dick" and "have respect", and I roll my eyes at that sentiment because why am I going to give something that's not given? No thank you. It's a two way street. At the same time, I am not someone who attacks everything I see for no reason and bellows fire to torment the community for self-satisfaction because I am a mean and evil monster. Now can this topic breathe? There was more to this topic than "self-reflection" and "newbie prejudice", like, "gameplay mechanics of non-department roles in a HRP environment" and how civilians are left out of gameplay and how we can collectively find ideas fix that. Admins should actually be doing this themselves if you ask me, but you know, whatever.

I think you both need to step back and just re-read what you're typing. Perhaps the real reason you're labeling the people critiquing the issue as "whiners" is because you're very embarrassed of how this looks and it makes you uncomfortable. Forget how the people being hostile to newbies feel, here's a different angle; How about the people who are actually on the receiving end the abuse? What about them? Also, even with the 'improve yourself' part it sounds like 'shut up and go away' and it's heavily implied and really rude, so I beg the question of who is being a "dick" here because if you see my first post it's very clear cut and simple and actually quite impartial. Anyway, getting back on topic, can you guys either contribute to the experiment or refrain from importing drama onto this topic; it's derailing and very unnecessary. Why even?

My bad. Well, I'll update that. This is what you people get with your fancy compound names. Geez.

Jackboot, that's one way it can be approached. This topic isn't to actually name or shame anyone, opposite really. In fact, it can be used as praise and a way of encouraging people. I use to find good players on this server. Another way it can be approached: "Oh wow, okay, that's what it's like. Knowing this I think I can be more empathetic to new players, before I disliked them but this has shown me it can really frustrating to be them." "Oh right, this is what my friends are like when they don't know people. I should encourage them to be friendlier and more open to new people." "Hm, it's a bit boring playing as a chaplain. I wonder how we can fix that?" "From an OOC perspective this security member seems to be not caring about making the investigation RP interesting. If I am to become a security officer I am going to make sure that my RP scenarios are really good." All these conclusions are from what I've gathered this month. These are actually my own. So, these are the noteable things that happened this week that I've improved and/or made me smile/made me sad/gave me hope: [GOOD] My character asked to be permabrigged and actually pretended to do a crime staged with another person as a victim, this was purely acting and it got very interesting. I was expecting security to declare my character insane, and straightjacket them in solitary or something. Props to detective Kane Dewitt for being goodcurity, and the HOP for playing along and actually expanding the RP to levels that surpassed my expectations. The detective actually investigated the IC motivations of the character and solved the issue, we all left with a handshake and all was well. The situation actually got resolved with me having to stretch the nature of my character (untrusting) which was really good. Got at least five people who all didn't know each other involved in the roleplay, which was really good. [bAD]Another character of mine was a snooty posh robophobe, only played her once. She committed an IC crime. She believed a player who had mentioned "animal fetish" on their medical records was a zoophile and leaked the medical records and distrubuted them on paper as well as accusing her of being a risk to animals (which by several whispers extended to "she fucks animals"), causing IC drama which got her fired. This was purely IC and my character's actions did not reflect my OOC thoughts, she's not a self-insert in the least because I love IPCs and I don't have an issue with anyone's records having weird stuff. Caused a huge plethora of IC reactions and a sort of IC event that triggered the entire round into a mini-event (ERT was called wow). However uh, the reception to this was mixed, some people -loved- the round, some people took it personally. As I found that players got OOC'ly offended that she leaked the info due to the popularity of the OOC player who was affected rather than IC situations, and my character ended up harmbatoned several times despite never physically harming or trying to escape, possibly because of OOC assumptions of the OOC player. That was bad. [GOOD] My new character I had never played before met a CMO (Tina Kaekel) and two other people (PARAGON and Silviza) who actually spent some time in the lobby to interact with my character while nothing was happening in the Medbay, my character could've easily been dismissed as a stereotype but I actually had a lovely talk with them IC. It was really nice and I hope I get the time to do it again. Props to these two for entertaining my flamboyant assistant. I want to adopt PARAGON so badly. These are only a few examples, but yes. In my opinion it can be used as a tool for self-motivation, entirely up to the type of person you are. Take it as you will.

As a bartender player I must testify this is true, it's hilarious but awkward. Would be nice if the slur filter was either toned down or removed, and replaced with random prefixes like "slurs", "drunkenly murmurs", so it'll be like, "Paul Corbet slurs, "I can't believe what happened in Science today." If I had my way, characters would have an option in their player panel screen choosing "Lightweight", "Average", "Heavy-weight" and variables set to each which would determine how much alcohol a mob can take before becoming hammered. But we all know the snowflakes would choose heavyweight even if their character is a skinny person with no alcoholic history. XD We know.

It still feels like security is pretty consistently the most-staffed department. There are a /lot/ of security regulars, and the entire department is a magnet for new players. Off the very top of my head: Security Regulars: Jade, Carton, M'sid, Avery, Centurian, Katana, Ohm, Ana, Bee, Mull, Vira, Lily Engineering Regulars: Dmytro, Nasir, Nasir, Travis, Oliver, Roy, Ziva/Sairis Medical Regulars: Aliyah, Samantha, Omnir, Charlie Dove, Normally there are a lot of others who I can't remember offhand. Science Regulars: Crop, Cordell Mining/Cargo Regulars: Aaron, Stamos Obviously this is not anywhere near a complete list. Perhaps our officers are more memorable than some people in other departments as well, but I will maintain that security is far more often properly staffed than most other departments. Huh, nothing on service and the others? *feels the cold* Damn that's harsh. But yes, I definitely recognize most of the names on the list. I often have cult enabled because I enjoy the gamemode (when it's not solely stuck in mining) but I have a feeling many people de-select cult and rev due to the fact a lot of things can be canonized really fast.

Sgt. I am doing my part. Many people are. When I go on the server I roleplay with anyone who approaches me, and I approach other people. I've never prejudged anyone for a lack of flavourtext and the like, because I've improved as a person since two years ago. I've made friends on the server but even now I try to roleplay with new people every day/week/whenever I play. When I can, I make RP scenarios. I even play as a bartender simply because the role allows me to interact with new people and even my non-bartender characters do this. This actually helps to gauge where problems are, and perhaps, find solutions to the problem. Maybe even give a bit of compassion/sympathy if you play in the shoes of a character you've often not played as.

Here's the actual idea. Experiment A would reflect how experienced RP'ers who join Aurora experience the server. Experiment B would reflect how an inexperienced (with a good potential to learn) RP'ers will experience the server. And experiment C is a somewhat a completely different experiment unrelated to the other two. Since I get a lot of security saying "Oh, we don't get a lot of roleplay, it's just shitty baldies screaming 'sec is griffing meh!' and just griefy crimes", I wanted to see how they'd act with an actual roleplayer potentially giving them an option to do more complex RP for the role and see how it utilized from a roleplay angle.

Hey, to cut to the point - I have this deal. I'm suggesting everyone step aside from their known characters and make a totally new one. This new character has to be totally anonymous and you can't speak in LOOC at any point to confirm it is you; you can't tell your friends it's you or anything remotely similar. Leave out flavourtext and choose a civilian department like Assistant, Cargo, Service, Chaplain or Librarian. I want you to play a round or two and post your results on this topic in this format. You must play a whole round. So, to sum things up. Here's the experiments, you can choose any one and do them as many times as you like: EXPERIMENT A: Join as a civilian character. You can use flavourtext You can emote and do complex RP to your own natural standard. You can NOT let anyone know your OOC identity Try to roleplay with people and see if anyone reciprocates your RP (IE: Emoting back, making a conversation) Try to have an enjoyable round overall Post the results in here. EXPERIMENT B: Join as a civilian character. You can NOT use flavourtext You can NOT emote and do complex RP to your own natural standard (but keep your spelling and grammar to the best of your ability). You can NOT let anyone know your OOC identity Try to roleplay with people and see if anyone reciprocates your RP (IE: Acknowledging your presence, making a conversation) Try to have an enjoyable round overall. Post the results in here. EXPERIMENT C: Join as a civilian character. Please do use flavourtext. You must emote and do complex RP to your own natural standard. You can NOT let anyone know your OOC identity Commit a minor roleplay fluff crime (IE: Not assault or any form of grief), with a strong RP reason behind it. (You might need to brainstorm before joining the round or find a good IC reason to do this.) Allow security to catch you and see how they roleplay with you, if not at all. Post the results in here. For your own use, you should log the conversation. You can do this by right-clicking and pressing "Log..." in the SS13 chat window at the beginning of the round. Here's the form (URGH PAPERWORK I KNOW): Experiment? (A/B/C): How many interactions did you get?: How was your experience with other civilians? Departmental workers? Heads? Sec?: How does this compare to your usual playing role?: If you were new to Aurora (as someone new to RP) would you come back? If you were new to Aurora (as someone experienced in RP) would you come back? Did you enjoy the round? (y/n) Notes:

Naw naw, she's totally just using a cheap lighter and a regular packet of cigarettes obtained from the vending machine.

Camile has a fridge full of booze at home, as expected of any bartender. She doesn't cook very well, possibly the only thing she can do is grill meat or cook spaghetti. She occasionally orders pizza while her friends take their shoes off and put their feet on the table and watch the thunderdome game. They'll enjoy a bottle of vodka (totally not stolen from the booze-o-mat at Aurora from her bartender shift) or whiskey and mix with a bit of coke or even more whiskey lemonade. igam, Beatrix, Camile and a couple of others will cheer loudly at the thunderdome games and Camile's a huge sports fan, even if she's not committed to any team. She's secretly smitten by the Audromeda thunderdome player Ulysses but will not tell anyone this. Camile has terrible hangovers and probably will call in sick very often. She throws parties every weekend and is a wreck by Sunday evening. She lives with a roommate Donny Davidson, an abandoned chav on the beach she found. He's her pet. To further the alcohol abuse this bartender does, she'll often run down to the club and meet new people while trying not to puke on them. She's not in any way an alcoholic, just a bored person with a tough liver.