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also the only thing i did to be "terrible" is apparently [22:36:30]SAY: Safiya Isra/XXTheFurryXx : what she say is none of his business please go on and explain how that is terrible. I'd love to hear what you have to say.

heaven forbid you consistently act like a terrible being in-game and get a reaction out of people and other characters for acting terrible. nah but you probably shouldn't take it so seriously, considering that it's a game and all. Wouldn't a logical solution for your character be, for instance, to not give a fuck and go back to doing their work? Caveat one, it's a game. Caveat two, you're not really roleplaying a functional sapient creature by taking offense to everything and getting all mad about 2d spacemans insulting your character :/ still that spacevoidagent guy tho lmao "Ron is one of the most soft-spoken, peaceful and non-violent people I know, he's only beat the fucking shit out of people twice. He's a really cool dude, tho." Yeah, no, that doesn't fly, and it doesn't say much when most other Tajaran characters have a nasty reputation of repeatedly assaulting others. you do understand, heavy role play means to roleplay realistically. not lel do what ever the fuck you want because its a game....right?

one thing im just gona throw out there (i actaully support a head ban) maybe allowing them to be quarter master and /maybe/ cmo. considering those two head positions are still pretty much the bottem of the barrel on heads.

*snip* [21:21:12]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : Fuck off, Catbeast. [21:21:18]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : Your kind have n oplace here. [21:21:43]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : Jesus, im loosing track of all these cats. [21:25:25]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : Catbeasts have no place here other then to clean shit from toilets and fix windows. [21:11:46]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : No filthy languages like that. How are we supposed to rp in any believable way when this unrealistic racism is rampant. We had a good four or five cats in science and all of them pretty much quit and went to the outpost. Behavior like this puts us in an impossible position. We can either get mad about it (the way any normal feeling creature would) at which point we’ll be accused of sassy cat bullshit. Or pretend it didn’t happen which is equally unbelievable. Every cat in that round just left because there was no way we could rp that with out bullshit happening. *edit* no it's not a joke when it makes the round unfun for a fifth of the server and is endangering other peoples whitelists.

Also I forgot to comment on this before. But I was literally just shunned a shit ton for trying to do this exact same thing on the chaz complaint.

[22:36:30]SAY: Safiya Isra/XXTheFurryXx : what she say is none of his business Rrreally? That’s the great big sassy cat comment I made that’s causing this complaint? Oh heaven forbid I got slightly abrasive. The laws of cat kind have been broken! What, was that comment just so impossible for a tajara to say after them being subjected to this for a hour? [21:21:12]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : Fuck off, Catbeast. [21:21:18]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : Your kind have n oplace here. [21:21:43]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : Jesus, im loosing track of all these cats. [21:25:25]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : Catbeasts have no place here other then to clean shit from toilets and fix windows. [21:11:46]SAY: Heinrich Adler/Spacevoidagent : No filthy languages like that. Again, was I supposed to just be so happy go fucking lucky that an hour worth of retarded racism wouldn’t affect my character? I ask again, in what imaginary world do you live in that racism to that extreme level is just supposed to have no effect on the person? Safi is one of the most mild and passive cats on this damn server. She’s only escalated to violence based on race twice both of which the admins verified it was a fair escalation because I was dealing with racism on a retarded level. Are we done here? *edit* Hell I've seen sue be more aggressive than this.

Of course it will always depend on the situation. I'll save ooc complaints for more extreme concrete issues. If i run into an issue on the same level as chaz then ill ia it or submit an ic incident report or just ignore it depending on my mood. Only for more extreme situations will i do an ooc complaint. Would you mind elaborating on what an extreme situation would be? I can reference the other complaint about me. Basically if im being spamed racism in such an unrealistic way with the player making dead taj joke, constant harassment over coms and in person. Basically if they are going "fuck all cats they all deserve to be gassed, heres afew dead taj jokes, go back to adhomi". And even then ill only submit a complaint if its not actually handled by the persons arrest. *edit* Arrest isn't nessasry, as long as its handled in a believable ic way; but i do think arrest and revoking coms to be a likely and believable way to hande it

Of course it will always depend on the situation. I'll save ooc complaints for more extreme concrete issues. If i run into an issue on the same level as chaz then ill ia it or submit an ic incident report or just ignore it depending on my mood. Only for more extreme situations will i do an ooc complaint.

I didn't stop the same way karima didnt stop, the same way miraj didn't stop. I didnt get indignant, i just said that it's allowed over department. And as i said (for me) it wasn't about the murders. I didn't care becausewe where dealing with racism that was on such an exteam level it was just unbelievable and broke meh immersion that the rd just let it happen. Can we get an admin to look at the logs and verify how retarded this complaint is. I'm tired of explaining that given the situation the very few actions i took was very appropriate.

so because jackboot wants me to reply. From what I remember, I literally only said that the no language on coms is only for gen coms so I’ll speak siikmass. After that I ignored everything else said. How is that throwing a hissy fit? And again, considering the context and stress that was going on, it’s pretty reasonable that people where yelling.

So I’m not gona say much here but I am going to say a few things. One, I was just majorly criticized for making ooc complaints about an IC issue. Now here is an ooc complaint about me that can easily be handled ICly (abuse of coms charge). You want to take that one “fuck off” statement (that I didn’t even make) as an example of sassy cat? For half the round people where making dead taj jokes over general coms. You honestly think we’d care that you don’t like sikmass while we’re being subjected to that? Normally I stop sikmass on coms when asked, but if blatant racisim is going unchecked I stop caring about gen com rules and the wishes of anyone that allows for that kind of spam. What are we supposed to do, be happy go lucky when the RD lets dead taj jokes spam coms but sikmass is banned? What imaginary world do you live in? The fuck off response was very appropriate given the current circumstance. Not to mention it caused four players to just up and leave the station due to the level of unrealistic retardation that was going on. Was anyone clawed during this display of unrealistic level of racism? No. Do you want to know what safi did? She asked for the persons coms to be removed, talked with others of her kind and reported it to the IA. I’ve only escalated to violence twice based on racism, both times the admins inquired and found that I had escalated it reasonably. To the admin that handles this complaint. Pm me, I have skype, beyond and teamspeak. I am not be handling this retarded discussion over open forums.

Look I work six days a week and every day I come home there’s only three hours of free time before I have to go to sleep again. It would take time to go point by point and tell you how you are just not getting this, and for whatever reason you can’t figure it out on your own. Apparently you really need someone to break it down step by step. IF I had the time I f*cking WOULD. But to my extreme displeasure I f*cking don’t. So I’m just going to put my trust on the admins that they won’t let this bullshit escalate further. At least they have shown in the past to be fairly good at recognizing bullshit. Seeing how inane you are being I can’t help but imagine that you’re going to think I can’t demonstrate why you’re thinking screwy; but I can though I’m sure you won’t believe me until I do, it’s the internet after all *shrugs*. Lastly if you really want me to explain to you how you’re getting this twisted I will later if you pm me; but right now I going to try to enjoy the merger two hours I have before I have to go to sleep and go to work all day tomorrow.

um no, Covert0ddity that would be a retarded idea and not what i am suggestion. so theres that

CMO: Fourty year future round. 2487. HoS: Have not touched the role for months. Retconned. Don't try to cover up your own shit by pointing fingers. was not aware you retconned it. I mean you did play hos for months. I like how the topic of glass ceiling and extreme racism becomes an issue after you retconned it. even so houssam is still a very instilled thing. what, does the glass ceiling some how not exist in this world of extreme racism. ether we're dealing with extreme racism in which the taj are subjugated to mineing or janitorial work (goodbye nasir, houssam, safi, all the science cats, yeah lets see how well that goes over) or the world is not as racist as suggested and it's more subtle corporate racism. I'm sorry If I want a world that makes coherent sense, instead of than one that panders to the lore masters. My bad?

So I do put in a lot of thought into the behaviors of people and the economic impacts of racism. You’ve given some barely applicable examples of racism in history. Where I can take you to school on this subject. I also have taken into consideration what you are saying, a courtesy you seem to have failed to do for me. Why do I say that? This is not at all what I am suggesting. You may think that is what I am saying because you haven’t taken a moment to actually consider and understand the words I type, but I can already tell you the argument your posing does not reflect the words I’ve written. Now I am tired of repeating myself and the wonderful thing about forums is you can go back and reread what I’ve said, so before you continue your rant over a topic go back and consider the words I type and make sure you understand it because it is apparent that you do not. Now I am stepping back from this conversation (takes too much effort), but I will leave it at this. What you’re saying I’m saying, is not what I have actually said.

So I do put in a lot of thought into the behaviors of people and the economic impacts of racism. You’ve given some barely applicable examples of racism in history. Where I can take you to school on this subject. I also have taken into consideration what you are saying, a courtesy you seem to have failed to do for me. Why do I say that? This is not at all what I am suggesting. You may think that is what I am saying because you haven’t taken a moment to actually consider and understand the words I type, but I can already tell you the argument your posing does not reflect the words I’ve written. Now I am tired of repeating myself and the wonderful thing about forums is you can go back and reread what I’ve said, so before you continue your rant over a topic go back and consider the words I type and make sure you understand it because it is apparent that you do not. Now I am stepping back from this conversation (takes too much effort), but I will leave it at this. What you’re saying I’m saying, is not what I have actually said.

Ok jackboot, if the lore is what they are saying it is houssam should not exist. He would never have been able to get a job if the taj are considered as inferior and hated as suggested in this forum. This is why either the lore needs to change, or you (and a lot of other xenos) can drop their charaters. *edit* the same can be said with sues character which apparently was an hos and cmo. this is why i said even the lore masters are not following the lore that is being suggested on this forum.

Ok jackboot, if the lore is what they are saying it is houssam should not exist. He would never have been able to get a job if the taj are considered as inferior and hated as suggested in this forum. This is why either the lore needs to change, or you (and a lot of other xenos) can drop their charaters. *edit* the same can be said with sues character which apparently was an hos and cmo. this is why i said even the lore masters are not following the lore that is being suggested on this forum.

then the lore doesn't make sense with the situation on aurora. If xenos are that hated they wouldn't even beable to get a job on a station like this let alone become heads of staff. To fix this you can eather bann all xenos from anything but mining so you can continue the extream beligerant hate (yeah lets see how that goes over) or you can change the lore to reflect the attidudes that are showing up onthe aurora community. The lore follows the community, th3 community isn't bound by the lore.

then the lore doesn't make sense with the situation on aurora. If xenos are that hated they wouldn't even beable to get a job on a station like this let alone become heads of staff. To fix this you can eather bann all xenos from anything but mining so you can continue the extream beligerant hate (yeah lets see how that goes over) or you can change the lore to reflect the attidudes that are showing up onthe aurora community. The lore follows the community, th3 community isn't bound by the lore.

You realize that education and being in a research position doesn't necessarily equal the amount of liberalism required for racism not to be a thing, right? The United States space program has its home and origins in one of the most openly bigoted places in the first world. You're conjuring up a fantasy world where a community/work space being heavily composed of intelligent researchers means they're all against the grain of social norms. You're imposing your INCREDIBLY WRONG worldview on both reality and a setting that don't agree with it. I'm against doing shit like confining Tajarans (or any species) to specific jobs, but yes, people are belligerent bigot douchebags while simultaneously having the intelligence to be rocket scientists, brain surgeons, and plasma researchers. It's only relatively recently that being this way publicly has become socially unacceptable, and in SS13 I don't get the impression that the social interactions between humans and aliens have advanced far enough for bigotry to have become socially unacceptable on a broad scale yet. Almost your entire opinion is objectively and factually incorrect in Aurora's lore. I say almost to give you benefit of the doubt, I don't know that anything you've said is actually right, but I don't know our lore back to front. You seem to have some serious personal hate-on for Tajarans and Unathi. so you just threw a while lot of words in my mouth that i did not say (im starting to remember why i dont talk in forums). Now i dont know what imaginary world your created, o4 how little thought you've put in this, but I've given this topic considerable thought. If we follow your created lore with hateful racism being so rampant then it wouldn't make since that we have taj heads or for that matter xenos onbord at all. Inorder to make things make since in your world we would have to bann alll taj and unathi(maybe one gets highered for janitor). But no thats not the situation on aurora, we have lots of xenos and lots of head xenos, so they are clearly more accepted to the community than the imaginary lore you suggest. Th3 nice thing about this is we get to decide what is lore and what is not. Since the community decided to have lots of xenos even in head , then to make since of it that means the races are more accepted then what you say

You realize that education and being in a research position doesn't necessarily equal the amount of liberalism required for racism not to be a thing, right? The United States space program has its home and origins in one of the most openly bigoted places in the first world. You're conjuring up a fantasy world where a community/work space being heavily composed of intelligent researchers means they're all against the grain of social norms. You're imposing your INCREDIBLY WRONG worldview on both reality and a setting that don't agree with it. I'm against doing shit like confining Tajarans (or any species) to specific jobs, but yes, people are belligerent bigot douchebags while simultaneously having the intelligence to be rocket scientists, brain surgeons, and plasma researchers. It's only relatively recently that being this way publicly has become socially unacceptable, and in SS13 I don't get the impression that the social interactions between humans and aliens have advanced far enough for bigotry to have become socially unacceptable on a broad scale yet. Almost your entire opinion is objectively and factually incorrect in Aurora's lore. I say almost to give you benefit of the doubt, I don't know that anything you've said is actually right, but I don't know our lore back to front. You seem to have some serious personal hate-on for Tajarans and Unathi. so you just threw a while lot of words in my mouth that i did not say (im starting to remember why i dont talk in forums). Now i dont know what imaginary world your created, o4 how little thought you've put in this, but I've given this topic considerable thought. If we follow your created lore with hateful racism being so rampant then it wouldn't make since that we have taj heads or for that matter xenos onbord at all. Inorder to make things make since in your world we would have to bann alll taj and unathi(maybe one gets highered for janitor). But no thats not the situation on aurora, we have lots of xenos and lots of head xenos, so they are clearly more accepted to the community than the imaginary lore you suggest. Th3 nice thing about this is we get to decide what is lore and what is not. Since the community decided to have lots of xenos even in head , then to make since of it that means the races are more accepted then what you say

Wrong. Tajaran have produced their first space-flight capable aircraft. ...Wrong? Where are you even getting this from. Also wrong. They're no longer the most technologically advanced species they know, not retarded. 1. After ten years with help from humanity. 2. They live in medium sized towns/villages correct? I know there is a few larger cities though. I apologize for the miscommunication. 3. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The point is it is unrealistic to expect super beligerant racism the way we normally see on the station. They are not as retarded as your suggesting and a multimillion dollar corp wouldn't have extremist racist on bord. Corporate racism is one thing but what most xenos deal with in game is just beligerant hate which is unrealistic.

Wrong. Tajaran have produced their first space-flight capable aircraft. ...Wrong? Where are you even getting this from. Also wrong. They're no longer the most technologically advanced species they know, not retarded. 1. After ten years with help from humanity. 2. They live in medium sized towns/villages correct? I know there is a few larger cities though. I apologize for the miscommunication. 3. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The point is it is unrealistic to expect super beligerant racism the way we normally see on the station. They are not as retarded as your suggesting and a multimillion dollar corp wouldn't have extremist racist on bord. Corporate racism is one thing but what most xenos deal with in game is just beligerant hate which is unrealistic.

So one min in told this is a super secret high qualifying research station. The next im told its the local community college level of research aith rentacops. Which is it. Also if the aliens are as distrusted/retarded as you suggest (cant even figure out a ball point pen) then there would literally be no aliens on this station. Even the two lore masters here have taj that are in head positions