Clasp Removal From Satchels, Duffels, etc

[Waff-AI]

https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/16782

BEFORE: Xion
AFTER: Human

hello gamers:

A month ago, someone opened a PR regarding the presence of the shoulder clasps on several bags. I don't care about them, personally, but opinions seem divided. I'm not quite able to take on the project of adding a clasp mask to make the feature optional, as well.

So: Clasps. Take or leave?

Edited July 19, 2023 by Waff-AI
why are the straps different on live vs testing 2

[Kintsugi]

I think the version without the clasp absolutely looks better

[WickedCybs]

Don't like the clasps and I usually only use lather satchels because they have one that at least blends in a bit more.

[party]

I literally thought they were a masking error. They don't look like they belong at all.

[Agatasa]

The clasps look good. I like how they look on my characters.

They're already removable anyways. We added a special option just so people could have invisible bag straps.

The bag straps were already hacked at with an eraser tool to make the 1px straps, which look bad.

I think people really want to look like they're not wearing a bag, while still mechanically having bag storage.

I don't see a reason to remove them.

Edited July 19, 2023 by Agatasa

[party]

3 minutes ago, Agatasa said:

They're already removable anyways. We added a special option just so people could have invisible bag straps.

 

They show up when the strap's hidden, too! That's why I reported it to start with; there was just a random blob on one of my characters that had a hidden strap.

[Agatasa]

Just now, party said:

They show up when the strap's hidden, too!

That's a bug with that specific bag type, not all of them.

[party]

It's both the pocketbooks and leather satchels, if you'd check the issue report. Regular satchels have an even worse clasp IMO but at least it doesn't show on the shoulder when the band is hidden.

 

Honestly I don't care about the clasp as much so long as it's being properly hidden, but I do think using the same beige blob for all of them (and bright white on the satchel) is unattractive and clashes with most drip.

Edited July 19, 2023 by party

[Agatasa]

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(and bright white on the satchel)

It's polished metal. It's supposed to reflect some light. Which is why the satchel clasp looks not so good, because it's supposed to be brass, but it's matte.

[niennab]

I'm in favor of removing satchel clasp. Simplicity is key for the bag sprites and I think it's telling that no one gets commissions of their characters with bags, old or new.

I don't think I've ever seen a satchel with a clasp so near to the shoulder as well. More realistically if it was there, it'd need to be along the back or closer to the bag on the back.

[Sparky_hotdog]

As a clasp enjoyer, I would only really be minorly disappointed with their removal. It is like, 4 pixels after all.

On the other hand, I would prefer to see them added as an alt-option in the strap settings (The menu where you choose normal/thin/none), given that is a system we already have.

[Carver]

We have strap settings, so I don't see why they couldn't be retained there. There are a quite a few outfits I've had they nicely complemented other elements of the outfit, so I'd be very sad to see them gone.

[Agatasa]

Even though I don't like removing these, I would rather not get my way than add settings bloat. We don't need to multiply the options by two or more in a menu that IMO shouldn't exist.

[Sycmos]

I'm in favor of removing it if it cannot be resprited as I find that the satchel clasp both clashes with the sprite of most bags and loadouts and is also in an unreasonable position. A clasp meant for the sling of a bag would not be in the middle of the sling itself, where it could potentially cause irritation from abrasion or potentially get caught on something. It should be closer to the bag, where it would likely attach to a metallic ring or fixture on the bag itself.