/!\ READ - STATE OF TAJARAN /!\

[rrrrrr]

It's not top secret, for Christ's sake. Why would it be? And, as many people have said, it doesn't research much that's interesting. The most important thing, lore wise, is the plasma. The rest of R&D is practically an afterthought.

[rrrrrr]

It's not top secret, for Christ's sake. Why would it be? And, as many people have said, it doesn't research much that's interesting. The most important thing, lore wise, is the plasma. The rest of R&D is practically an afterthought.

[TishinaStalker]

Just to clear things up. Basically what Furry is trying to say from what I'm picking up:

You were hired by a multi-trillion dollar corporation to work in its state-of-the-art research station. Act like it.

[TishinaStalker]

Just to clear things up. Basically what Furry is trying to say from what I'm picking up:

You were hired by a multi-trillion dollar corporation to work in its state-of-the-art research station. Act like it.

[Alberyk]

Neither even have a space program.

 

Except by the fact that the hegemony has a navy and bluespace capacity by the lore, also about tajaran; http://aurorastation.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=31467#p31467

 

and Tajaran live in fucking tribes still.

 

They don't, ethnicities are not the same as tribes.

But, yeah, you have far more reasons to be racist against tajaran and unathi. Tajaran due to a visible anti-human minority, that is prone to do terrorist attacks, and unathi for their well know raiding and piracy activities across the human space.

[Alberyk]

Neither even have a space program.

 

Except by the fact that the hegemony has a navy and bluespace capacity by the lore, also about tajaran; http://aurorastation.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=31467#p31467

 

and Tajaran live in fucking tribes still.

 

They don't, ethnicities are not the same as tribes.

But, yeah, you have far more reasons to be racist against tajaran and unathi. Tajaran due to a visible anti-human minority, that is prone to do terrorist attacks, and unathi for their well know raiding and piracy activities across the human space.

[Susan]

Neither even have a space program

Wrong. Tajaran have produced their first space-flight capable aircraft.

 

Tajaran live in fucking tribes still.

...Wrong? Where are you even getting this from.

 

It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification.

Also wrong. They're no longer the most technologically advanced species they know, not retarded.

[Susan]

Neither even have a space program

Wrong. Tajaran have produced their first space-flight capable aircraft.

 

Tajaran live in fucking tribes still.

...Wrong? Where are you even getting this from.

 

It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification.

Also wrong. They're no longer the most technologically advanced species they know, not retarded.

[spacevoidagent]

Neither even have a space program

Wrong. Tajaran have produced their first space-flight capable aircraft.

 

Tajaran live in fucking tribes still.

...Wrong? Where are you even getting this from.

 

It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification.

Also wrong. They're no longer the most technologically advanced species they know, not retarded.

 

1. After ten years with help from humanity.

2. They live in medium sized towns/villages correct? I know there is a few larger cities though. I apologize for the miscommunication.

3. I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

[spacevoidagent]

Neither even have a space program

Wrong. Tajaran have produced their first space-flight capable aircraft.

 

Tajaran live in fucking tribes still.

...Wrong? Where are you even getting this from.

 

It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification.

Also wrong. They're no longer the most technologically advanced species they know, not retarded.

 

1. After ten years with help from humanity.

2. They live in medium sized towns/villages correct? I know there is a few larger cities though. I apologize for the miscommunication.

3. I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

[Eliot Clef]

So one min in told this is a super secret high qualifying research station. The next im told its the local community college level of research aith rentacops.

 

You realize that education and being in a research position doesn't necessarily equal the amount of liberalism required for racism not to be a thing, right? The United States space program has its home and origins in one of the most openly bigoted places in the first world. You're conjuring up a fantasy world where a community/work space being heavily composed of intelligent researchers means they're all against the grain of social norms.

You're imposing your INCREDIBLY WRONG worldview on both reality and a setting that don't agree with it.

I'm against doing shit like confining Tajarans (or any species) to specific jobs, but yes, people are belligerent bigot douchebags while simultaneously having the intelligence to be rocket scientists, brain surgeons, and plasma researchers. It's only relatively recently that being this way publicly has become socially unacceptable, and in SS13 I don't get the impression that the social interactions between humans and aliens have advanced far enough for bigotry to have become socially unacceptable on a broad scale yet.

 

You don't abide by your own statement. Safiyas age isn't the proper age for a Geneticist. I wouldn't call it advanced, its mainly for plasma research. Hardly anything on station is even remotely impressive or scientifically useful. Other then the R&D Lab, Robotics, Telescience, and Genetics, the station is dull. Engineers would be EVA Trained Mechanics essentially, Medical would be doctors and nurses, and Security would be a mix between PMC and Mall Cops. Can't forget cargo, which always attracts the special criminal characters who smuggled shit across the galaxy until they got bored and decided to pull crates all day on a research station.

There's 'racism' everywhere. Even in professional environments. Tajaran, Unathi are largely looked down upon in society as unintelligent, lousy, animals, to be frank. Neither even have a space program, and Tajaran live in fucking tribes still. It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification. They have slightly developed cities but not nearly enough to be considered of equal intellect. Their cities are the equivalent of a small new York city from the 1940s. It's been over 40 years since first contact with them and they are as developed as a modern 14 year old. The most impressive job a Tajaran should get is Security or Engineer.

If course this is all my opinion.

 

Almost your entire opinion is objectively and factually incorrect in Aurora's lore.

I say almost to give you benefit of the doubt, I don't know that anything you've said is actually right, but I don't know our lore back to front. You seem to have some serious personal hate-on for Tajarans and Unathi.

[Eliot Clef]

So one min in told this is a super secret high qualifying research station. The next im told its the local community college level of research aith rentacops.

 

You realize that education and being in a research position doesn't necessarily equal the amount of liberalism required for racism not to be a thing, right? The United States space program has its home and origins in one of the most openly bigoted places in the first world. You're conjuring up a fantasy world where a community/work space being heavily composed of intelligent researchers means they're all against the grain of social norms.

You're imposing your INCREDIBLY WRONG worldview on both reality and a setting that don't agree with it.

I'm against doing shit like confining Tajarans (or any species) to specific jobs, but yes, people are belligerent bigot douchebags while simultaneously having the intelligence to be rocket scientists, brain surgeons, and plasma researchers. It's only relatively recently that being this way publicly has become socially unacceptable, and in SS13 I don't get the impression that the social interactions between humans and aliens have advanced far enough for bigotry to have become socially unacceptable on a broad scale yet.

 

You don't abide by your own statement. Safiyas age isn't the proper age for a Geneticist. I wouldn't call it advanced, its mainly for plasma research. Hardly anything on station is even remotely impressive or scientifically useful. Other then the R&D Lab, Robotics, Telescience, and Genetics, the station is dull. Engineers would be EVA Trained Mechanics essentially, Medical would be doctors and nurses, and Security would be a mix between PMC and Mall Cops. Can't forget cargo, which always attracts the special criminal characters who smuggled shit across the galaxy until they got bored and decided to pull crates all day on a research station.

There's 'racism' everywhere. Even in professional environments. Tajaran, Unathi are largely looked down upon in society as unintelligent, lousy, animals, to be frank. Neither even have a space program, and Tajaran live in fucking tribes still. It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification. They have slightly developed cities but not nearly enough to be considered of equal intellect. Their cities are the equivalent of a small new York city from the 1940s. It's been over 40 years since first contact with them and they are as developed as a modern 14 year old. The most impressive job a Tajaran should get is Security or Engineer.

If course this is all my opinion.

 

Almost your entire opinion is objectively and factually incorrect in Aurora's lore.

I say almost to give you benefit of the doubt, I don't know that anything you've said is actually right, but I don't know our lore back to front. You seem to have some serious personal hate-on for Tajarans and Unathi.

[Covert0ddity]

As far as I'm aware, the lore focuses on Humanity's accomplishments. On Humanity's skills and ingeniousness, with the other races taking a sideline in Humanity's glory. As far as I see, all other races could be legitimately considered 'lesser' than a human. If you don't want to be chastised? Play a human. The way most people play Tajaran/Unathi/Hell, even IPC's now are basically Human anyway.

There aren't any prevalent and meaningful interactions of racism and evidence of Unathi, Tajarans or others overcoming their social bonds and rising above their human peers in terms of social grace - Other species are going to be scrutinized more heavily than humans. If you can't deal with that? Tough. Play a human.

The point of another species isn't to bow down to them and cow-tail your entire work force for them. It's a privilege to play an alien species, and you should really really read and understand the lore of your species before going for them. As Sue pointed out, Tajarans are the underdog. Unathi are the underdog. IPC's are the underdog. Skrell are on the level of humanity and have worked with them longer.

[Covert0ddity]

As far as I'm aware, the lore focuses on Humanity's accomplishments. On Humanity's skills and ingeniousness, with the other races taking a sideline in Humanity's glory. As far as I see, all other races could be legitimately considered 'lesser' than a human. If you don't want to be chastised? Play a human. The way most people play Tajaran/Unathi/Hell, even IPC's now are basically Human anyway.

There aren't any prevalent and meaningful interactions of racism and evidence of Unathi, Tajarans or others overcoming their social bonds and rising above their human peers in terms of social grace - Other species are going to be scrutinized more heavily than humans. If you can't deal with that? Tough. Play a human.

The point of another species isn't to bow down to them and cow-tail your entire work force for them. It's a privilege to play an alien species, and you should really really read and understand the lore of your species before going for them. As Sue pointed out, Tajarans are the underdog. Unathi are the underdog. IPC's are the underdog. Skrell are on the level of humanity and have worked with them longer.

[the_furry]

Neither even have a space program

Wrong. Tajaran have produced their first space-flight capable aircraft.

 

Tajaran live in fucking tribes still.

...Wrong? Where are you even getting this from.

 

It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification.

Also wrong. They're no longer the most technologically advanced species they know, not retarded.

 

1. After ten years with help from humanity.

2. They live in medium sized towns/villages correct? I know there is a few larger cities though. I apologize for the miscommunication.

3. I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

The point is it is unrealistic to expect super beligerant racism the way we normally see on the station. They are not as retarded as your suggesting and a multimillion dollar corp wouldn't have extremist racist on bord. Corporate racism is one thing but what most xenos deal with in game is just beligerant hate which is unrealistic.

[the_furry]

Neither even have a space program

Wrong. Tajaran have produced their first space-flight capable aircraft.

 

Tajaran live in fucking tribes still.

...Wrong? Where are you even getting this from.

 

It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification.

Also wrong. They're no longer the most technologically advanced species they know, not retarded.

 

1. After ten years with help from humanity.

2. They live in medium sized towns/villages correct? I know there is a few larger cities though. I apologize for the miscommunication.

3. I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

The point is it is unrealistic to expect super beligerant racism the way we normally see on the station. They are not as retarded as your suggesting and a multimillion dollar corp wouldn't have extremist racist on bord. Corporate racism is one thing but what most xenos deal with in game is just beligerant hate which is unrealistic.

[the_furry]

So one min in told this is a super secret high qualifying research station. The next im told its the local community college level of research aith rentacops.

 

You realize that education and being in a research position doesn't necessarily equal the amount of liberalism required for racism not to be a thing, right? The United States space program has its home and origins in one of the most openly bigoted places in the first world. You're conjuring up a fantasy world where a community/work space being heavily composed of intelligent researchers means they're all against the grain of social norms.

You're imposing your INCREDIBLY WRONG worldview on both reality and a setting that don't agree with it.

I'm against doing shit like confining Tajarans (or any species) to specific jobs, but yes, people are belligerent bigot douchebags while simultaneously having the intelligence to be rocket scientists, brain surgeons, and plasma researchers. It's only relatively recently that being this way publicly has become socially unacceptable, and in SS13 I don't get the impression that the social interactions between humans and aliens have advanced far enough for bigotry to have become socially unacceptable on a broad scale yet.

 

You don't abide by your own statement. Safiyas age isn't the proper age for a Geneticist. I wouldn't call it advanced, its mainly for plasma research. Hardly anything on station is even remotely impressive or scientifically useful. Other then the R&D Lab, Robotics, Telescience, and Genetics, the station is dull. Engineers would be EVA Trained Mechanics essentially, Medical would be doctors and nurses, and Security would be a mix between PMC and Mall Cops. Can't forget cargo, which always attracts the special criminal characters who smuggled shit across the galaxy until they got bored and decided to pull crates all day on a research station.

There's 'racism' everywhere. Even in professional environments. Tajaran, Unathi are largely looked down upon in society as unintelligent, lousy, animals, to be frank. Neither even have a space program, and Tajaran live in fucking tribes still. It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification. They have slightly developed cities but not nearly enough to be considered of equal intellect. Their cities are the equivalent of a small new York city from the 1940s. It's been over 40 years since first contact with them and they are as developed as a modern 14 year old. The most impressive job a Tajaran should get is Security or Engineer.

If course this is all my opinion.

 

Almost your entire opinion is objectively and factually incorrect in Aurora's lore.

I say almost to give you benefit of the doubt, I don't know that anything you've said is actually right, but I don't know our lore back to front. You seem to have some serious personal hate-on for Tajarans and Unathi.

so you just threw a while lot of words in my mouth that i did not say (im starting to remember why i dont talk in forums). Now i dont know what imaginary world your created, o4 how little thought you've put in this, but I've given this topic considerable thought. If we follow your created lore with hateful racism being so rampant then it wouldn't make since that we have taj heads or for that matter xenos onbord at all. Inorder to make things make since in your world we would have to bann alll taj and unathi(maybe one gets highered for janitor). But no thats not the situation on aurora, we have lots of xenos and lots of head xenos, so they are clearly more accepted to the community than the imaginary lore you suggest. Th3 nice thing about this is we get to decide what is lore and what is not. Since the community decided to have lots of xenos even in head , then to make since of it that means the races are more accepted then what you say

[the_furry]

So one min in told this is a super secret high qualifying research station. The next im told its the local community college level of research aith rentacops.

 

You realize that education and being in a research position doesn't necessarily equal the amount of liberalism required for racism not to be a thing, right? The United States space program has its home and origins in one of the most openly bigoted places in the first world. You're conjuring up a fantasy world where a community/work space being heavily composed of intelligent researchers means they're all against the grain of social norms.

You're imposing your INCREDIBLY WRONG worldview on both reality and a setting that don't agree with it.

I'm against doing shit like confining Tajarans (or any species) to specific jobs, but yes, people are belligerent bigot douchebags while simultaneously having the intelligence to be rocket scientists, brain surgeons, and plasma researchers. It's only relatively recently that being this way publicly has become socially unacceptable, and in SS13 I don't get the impression that the social interactions between humans and aliens have advanced far enough for bigotry to have become socially unacceptable on a broad scale yet.

 

You don't abide by your own statement. Safiyas age isn't the proper age for a Geneticist. I wouldn't call it advanced, its mainly for plasma research. Hardly anything on station is even remotely impressive or scientifically useful. Other then the R&D Lab, Robotics, Telescience, and Genetics, the station is dull. Engineers would be EVA Trained Mechanics essentially, Medical would be doctors and nurses, and Security would be a mix between PMC and Mall Cops. Can't forget cargo, which always attracts the special criminal characters who smuggled shit across the galaxy until they got bored and decided to pull crates all day on a research station.

There's 'racism' everywhere. Even in professional environments. Tajaran, Unathi are largely looked down upon in society as unintelligent, lousy, animals, to be frank. Neither even have a space program, and Tajaran live in fucking tribes still. It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification. They have slightly developed cities but not nearly enough to be considered of equal intellect. Their cities are the equivalent of a small new York city from the 1940s. It's been over 40 years since first contact with them and they are as developed as a modern 14 year old. The most impressive job a Tajaran should get is Security or Engineer.

If course this is all my opinion.

 

Almost your entire opinion is objectively and factually incorrect in Aurora's lore.

I say almost to give you benefit of the doubt, I don't know that anything you've said is actually right, but I don't know our lore back to front. You seem to have some serious personal hate-on for Tajarans and Unathi.

so you just threw a while lot of words in my mouth that i did not say (im starting to remember why i dont talk in forums). Now i dont know what imaginary world your created, o4 how little thought you've put in this, but I've given this topic considerable thought. If we follow your created lore with hateful racism being so rampant then it wouldn't make since that we have taj heads or for that matter xenos onbord at all. Inorder to make things make since in your world we would have to bann alll taj and unathi(maybe one gets highered for janitor). But no thats not the situation on aurora, we have lots of xenos and lots of head xenos, so they are clearly more accepted to the community than the imaginary lore you suggest. Th3 nice thing about this is we get to decide what is lore and what is not. Since the community decided to have lots of xenos even in head , then to make since of it that means the races are more accepted then what you say

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

Crypto-Fascists and Basically UKIP run the Largest Human country, and won through elections, Most Humans think Xenos are inferior , That is all I have to say. People who are claiming people wouldn't be racist on a Space Station, motherfucking what? Academia, Science and Other high level fields contain viscous racists, Genetics especially, opinions don't change based on the White collar of the business.

[Vittorio Giurifiglio]

Crypto-Fascists and Basically UKIP run the Largest Human country, and won through elections, Most Humans think Xenos are inferior , That is all I have to say. People who are claiming people wouldn't be racist on a Space Station, motherfucking what? Academia, Science and Other high level fields contain viscous racists, Genetics especially, opinions don't change based on the White collar of the business.

[spacevoidagent]

So one min in told this is a super secret high qualifying research station. The next im told its the local community college level of research aith rentacops.

 

You realize that education and being in a research position doesn't necessarily equal the amount of liberalism required for racism not to be a thing, right? The United States space program has its home and origins in one of the most openly bigoted places in the first world. You're conjuring up a fantasy world where a community/work space being heavily composed of intelligent researchers means they're all against the grain of social norms.

You're imposing your INCREDIBLY WRONG worldview on both reality and a setting that don't agree with it.

I'm against doing shit like confining Tajarans (or any species) to specific jobs, but yes, people are belligerent bigot douchebags while simultaneously having the intelligence to be rocket scientists, brain surgeons, and plasma researchers. It's only relatively recently that being this way publicly has become socially unacceptable, and in SS13 I don't get the impression that the social interactions between humans and aliens have advanced far enough for bigotry to have become socially unacceptable on a broad scale yet.

 

You don't abide by your own statement. Safiyas age isn't the proper age for a Geneticist. I wouldn't call it advanced, its mainly for plasma research. Hardly anything on station is even remotely impressive or scientifically useful. Other then the R&D Lab, Robotics, Telescience, and Genetics, the station is dull. Engineers would be EVA Trained Mechanics essentially, Medical would be doctors and nurses, and Security would be a mix between PMC and Mall Cops. Can't forget cargo, which always attracts the special criminal characters who smuggled shit across the galaxy until they got bored and decided to pull crates all day on a research station.

There's 'racism' everywhere. Even in professional environments. Tajaran, Unathi are largely looked down upon in society as unintelligent, lousy, animals, to be frank. Neither even have a space program, and Tajaran live in fucking tribes still. It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification. They have slightly developed cities but not nearly enough to be considered of equal intellect. Their cities are the equivalent of a small new York city from the 1940s. It's been over 40 years since first contact with them and they are as developed as a modern 14 year old. The most impressive job a Tajaran should get is Security or Engineer.

If course this is all my opinion.

 

Almost your entire opinion is objectively and factually incorrect in Aurora's lore.

I say almost to give you benefit of the doubt, I don't know that anything you've said is actually right, but I don't know our lore back to front. You seem to have some serious personal hate-on for Tajarans and Unathi.

so you just threw a while lot of words in my mouth that i did not say (im starting to remember why i dont talk in forums). Now i dont know what imaginary world your created, o4 how little thought you've put in this, but I've given this topic considerable thought. If we follow your created lore with hateful racism being so rampant then it wouldn't make since that we have taj heads or for that matter xenos onbord at all. Inorder to make things make since in your world we would have to bann alll taj and unathi(maybe one gets highered for janitor). But no thats not the situation on aurora, we have lots of xenos and lots of head xenos, so they are clearly more accepted to the community than the imaginary lore you suggest. Th3 nice thing about this is we get to decide what is lore and what is not. Since the community decided to have lots of xenos even in head , then to make since of it that means the races are more accepted then what you say

The lore before the loredevs bent over for the furries was realistic and immersive. Tajarans and Unathi were restricted from heads, and only Skrell (The only equally intellectual race) were allowed head roles. But even then, Skrell could only be RD, CMO I believe. The lore isn't imaginary, read up on the wiki. Ahdomai is covered in the remains of a brutal war, villages and towns are battered with craters and remnants of a war. There is a small amount of developed cities, but even those are small and not even comparable to modern say cities. New York from the 1950-70s is more impressive and functioing then that Tajaran shithole. A picture in the wiki shows the only noteworthy city, which is of course the capital. The Tajaran cats would still be picking themselves and fighting each other if it wasn't for the humans. Humanity brought everything to the Tajara, education, money, freedom, and more money. Even then, NanoTrasen only educates the Tajarans born in the last ten years, as they use the middle and older aged Tajarans as menial workers cutting lumber and mining. Hell, there is still revolutinaires trying to start shit. Ahdomai is a shithole, and is going to be for a long time. NanoTrasen has taken no interest in the Tajara except for their own personal gain. They choose to poorly educate the young Tajara so they feel worth or something of the likes. The socio-economic gap is HUGE. As you distance yourself from the developed cities, you see how shitty the majority of the Tajara species live.

Tajarans are inferior and deserve to be treated as such. Human Master Race.

[spacevoidagent]

So one min in told this is a super secret high qualifying research station. The next im told its the local community college level of research aith rentacops.

 

You realize that education and being in a research position doesn't necessarily equal the amount of liberalism required for racism not to be a thing, right? The United States space program has its home and origins in one of the most openly bigoted places in the first world. You're conjuring up a fantasy world where a community/work space being heavily composed of intelligent researchers means they're all against the grain of social norms.

You're imposing your INCREDIBLY WRONG worldview on both reality and a setting that don't agree with it.

I'm against doing shit like confining Tajarans (or any species) to specific jobs, but yes, people are belligerent bigot douchebags while simultaneously having the intelligence to be rocket scientists, brain surgeons, and plasma researchers. It's only relatively recently that being this way publicly has become socially unacceptable, and in SS13 I don't get the impression that the social interactions between humans and aliens have advanced far enough for bigotry to have become socially unacceptable on a broad scale yet.

 

You don't abide by your own statement. Safiyas age isn't the proper age for a Geneticist. I wouldn't call it advanced, its mainly for plasma research. Hardly anything on station is even remotely impressive or scientifically useful. Other then the R&D Lab, Robotics, Telescience, and Genetics, the station is dull. Engineers would be EVA Trained Mechanics essentially, Medical would be doctors and nurses, and Security would be a mix between PMC and Mall Cops. Can't forget cargo, which always attracts the special criminal characters who smuggled shit across the galaxy until they got bored and decided to pull crates all day on a research station.

There's 'racism' everywhere. Even in professional environments. Tajaran, Unathi are largely looked down upon in society as unintelligent, lousy, animals, to be frank. Neither even have a space program, and Tajaran live in fucking tribes still. It would take them months to figure out how a ballpoint pen works, let alone Genetic Modification. They have slightly developed cities but not nearly enough to be considered of equal intellect. Their cities are the equivalent of a small new York city from the 1940s. It's been over 40 years since first contact with them and they are as developed as a modern 14 year old. The most impressive job a Tajaran should get is Security or Engineer.

If course this is all my opinion.

 

Almost your entire opinion is objectively and factually incorrect in Aurora's lore.

I say almost to give you benefit of the doubt, I don't know that anything you've said is actually right, but I don't know our lore back to front. You seem to have some serious personal hate-on for Tajarans and Unathi.

so you just threw a while lot of words in my mouth that i did not say (im starting to remember why i dont talk in forums). Now i dont know what imaginary world your created, o4 how little thought you've put in this, but I've given this topic considerable thought. If we follow your created lore with hateful racism being so rampant then it wouldn't make since that we have taj heads or for that matter xenos onbord at all. Inorder to make things make since in your world we would have to bann alll taj and unathi(maybe one gets highered for janitor). But no thats not the situation on aurora, we have lots of xenos and lots of head xenos, so they are clearly more accepted to the community than the imaginary lore you suggest. Th3 nice thing about this is we get to decide what is lore and what is not. Since the community decided to have lots of xenos even in head , then to make since of it that means the races are more accepted then what you say

The lore before the loredevs bent over for the furries was realistic and immersive. Tajarans and Unathi were restricted from heads, and only Skrell (The only equally intellectual race) were allowed head roles. But even then, Skrell could only be RD, CMO I believe. The lore isn't imaginary, read up on the wiki. Ahdomai is covered in the remains of a brutal war, villages and towns are battered with craters and remnants of a war. There is a small amount of developed cities, but even those are small and not even comparable to modern say cities. New York from the 1950-70s is more impressive and functioing then that Tajaran shithole. A picture in the wiki shows the only noteworthy city, which is of course the capital. The Tajaran cats would still be picking themselves and fighting each other if it wasn't for the humans. Humanity brought everything to the Tajara, education, money, freedom, and more money. Even then, NanoTrasen only educates the Tajarans born in the last ten years, as they use the middle and older aged Tajarans as menial workers cutting lumber and mining. Hell, there is still revolutinaires trying to start shit. Ahdomai is a shithole, and is going to be for a long time. NanoTrasen has taken no interest in the Tajara except for their own personal gain. They choose to poorly educate the young Tajara so they feel worth or something of the likes. The socio-economic gap is HUGE. As you distance yourself from the developed cities, you see how shitty the majority of the Tajara species live.

Tajarans are inferior and deserve to be treated as such. Human Master Race.

[the_furry]

Crypto-Fascists and Basically UKIP run the Largest Human country, and won through elections, Most Humans think Xenos are inferior , That is all I have to say. People who are claiming people wouldn't be racist on a Space Station, motherfucking what? Academia, Science and Other high level fields contain viscous racists, Genetics especially, opinions don't change based on the White collar of the business.

then the lore doesn't make sense with the situation on aurora. If xenos are that hated they wouldn't even beable to get a job on a station like this let alone become heads of staff. To fix this you can eather bann all xenos from anything but mining so you can continue the extream beligerant hate (yeah lets see how that goes over) or you can change the lore to reflect the attidudes that are showing up onthe aurora community. The lore follows the community, th3 community isn't bound by the lore.

[the_furry]

Crypto-Fascists and Basically UKIP run the Largest Human country, and won through elections, Most Humans think Xenos are inferior , That is all I have to say. People who are claiming people wouldn't be racist on a Space Station, motherfucking what? Academia, Science and Other high level fields contain viscous racists, Genetics especially, opinions don't change based on the White collar of the business.

then the lore doesn't make sense with the situation on aurora. If xenos are that hated they wouldn't even beable to get a job on a station like this let alone become heads of staff. To fix this you can eather bann all xenos from anything but mining so you can continue the extream beligerant hate (yeah lets see how that goes over) or you can change the lore to reflect the attidudes that are showing up onthe aurora community. The lore follows the community, th3 community isn't bound by the lore.

[Eliot Clef]

so you just threw a while lot of words in my mouth that i did not say (im starting to remember why i dont talk in forums). Now i dont know what imaginary world your created, o4 how little thought you've put in this, but I've given this topic considerable thought. If we follow your created lore with hateful racism being so rampant then it wouldn't make since that we have taj heads or for that matter xenos onbord at all. Inorder to make things make since in your world we would have to bann alll taj and unathi(maybe one gets highered for janitor). But no thats not the situation on aurora, we have lots of xenos and lots of head xenos, so they are clearly more accepted to the community than the imaginary lore you suggest. Th3 nice thing about this is we get to decide what is lore and what is not. Since the community decided to have lots of xenos even in head , then to make since of it that means the races are more accepted then what you say

 

Ok. First of all, half of that post was aimed at spacevoidagent. It wasn't aimed at you, but you seem to have read it that way? I'm not sure. Secondly, you're aggressively defending pet species from the most trivial portrayals of racism in the setting. You're throwing up this huge outcry of unrealistic portrayal based on wildly incorrect assumptions of how people work. I live in a place that is still deeply, deeply racist at every possible level.

Take us back to the 80s and random people would get arrested for coming through town for as little reason as having long hair.

I've never agreed with banning species from any role, but suggesting that a high-tech research facility is somehow inoculated against people expressing dumb, ignorant opinions in-character because it annoys you that your tajaran gets called names doesn't make it unrealistic.

You haven't thought this through. You have a warped, incorrect view of how prejudice works. Based on our timeline the Tajarans have only been known for thirty nine years, and the notion of them being primitive bestial beings takes much, much longer to go away than that long. It's been even less time with the Unathi. For people's enjoyment there are less restrictions on aliens than there used to be, but that doesn't mean the racism is gone or even socially unacceptable, especially the incredibly minor racism of calling calling Unathi lizards or Tajarans cats.

My personal recommendation back when we were still debating some of this stuff, with regards to IPCs, is that Aurora Station is deliberately an environment where social experiments are carried out and abnormal staffing decisions occur in abundance. That wasn't adopted, but there are plenty of explanations for why these elements mix together the way they do that don't require your bizarre hardline perspective where either people need to stop calling each other names or your pet whitelist needs to be locked down hard.

 

The lore before the loredevs bent over for the furries was realistic and immersive.

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And I'm not even going to engage this at length. People clearly don't want what you want for the game. We've gotten past officially considering the entire crew to be minimum wage incompetents, much less draconian role restrictions.