Theplahunters unban appeal

[Theplahunter]

BYOND Key: Plahunter101/Sovietcyanide

Total Ban Length: Permanent

Banning staff member's Key: Soundscopes

Reason of Ban:Breaking unban parole by calling player a 'cunt' in LOOC

Reason for Appeal: I know I fucked up that year ago, I was an uncontrollable prick. But it -has- been a year, and I'd like to ask for another chance. I think its time to just let bygones be bygones and try again? Its a new year, new chance to start over.

[Skull132]

...I'm sorry. Is this really the best you can do? I don't mean to be abrasive, or offensive, or getting in your face, but. You've been banned at least twice for the same thing. And literally the only thing you can come up with, "Hey folks! It's been a year! Can we give this whole deal another shot"? I, really don't know what to say.

[Theplahunter]

...I'm sorry. Is this really the best you can do? I don't mean to be abrasive, or offensive, or getting in your face, but. You've been banned at least twice for the same thing. And literally the only thing you can come up with, "Hey folks! It's been a year! Can we give this whole deal another shot"? I, really don't know what to say.

 

I don't know what else to say, all I can say is I fucked up. Its been a year, and I like to think i've changed at least a little bit. I want to come back, I want to help with the server and provide a good RP experience. Its been a year and I feel like that's enough, sorry to disappoint. I didn't mean for it to come off like I didn't put any effort in. I'd like to prove to you I can do better, because what I did was shameful and I know it is. Before I didn't realize but now that i've had the time to think I realize its terrible and being like that isn't going to get me anywhere in life, so the long deal is 'its been a year, i've thought it over. And I think i'm ready to come back' if that makes any sense.

[Skull132]

Apparently you felt "like it's been enough" last time as well. How is this time going to be any different?

[Theplahunter]

Apparently you felt "like it's been enough" last time as well. How is this time going to be any different?

 

I can't be 100 % sure, that's positive. But I can do my damn best to try, Last time I lied and said a month was good enough when obviously it wasn't. I now do realize it was a scummy thing to do, and as an attempt to suggest an improvement to the server I already have made a post about nuke ops weapons which is a step in the right direction. I miss the aurora, the RP was great and I wish to be given the opertunity to play without being a total mongaloid.

[Skull132]

Unfortunately, I had the please of watching your shenanigans roughly 6 months ago. Which were on par with the shit you demonstrated a year ago. You really hadn't changed back then, and you probably haven't changed now. Even if you have, though, I think you've used up the amount of times you can claim it here.

[Theplahunter]

Unfortunately, I had the please of watching your shenanigans roughly 6 months ago. Which were on par with the shit you demonstrated a year ago. You really hadn't changed back then, and you probably haven't changed now. Even if you have, though, I think you've used up the amount of times you can claim it here.

 

Skull all i'm asking is for one last chance on this, I know I've already said that once but I just want to come back to rp and provide a good experience for everybody. I don't know what else I can say or do to convince you except i'll do anything. I will vow that I will not be a total cuntsicle, i'll try to be the most polite person you've ever seen. You have my promise as a person, Skull. And that right now is the best I can give.

[Frances]

Not an admin, but kinda curious. And don't take this in a particularly good or bad way, but I think it's information that could be relevant to your unban.

After being permabanned twice, and absent from the community for an entire year, what exactly draws you to Aurora over other HRP servers? Are there other HRP servers that you've gone on?

[Theplahunter]

Not an admin, but kinda curious. And don't take this in a particularly good or bad way, but I think it's information that could be relevant to your unban.

After being permabanned twice, and absent from the community for an entire year, what exactly draws you to Aurora over other HRP servers? Are there other HRP servers that you've gone on?

 

I've gone on to others, havn't been banned. I just like the community, even though sometimes I don't show it. I feel like I can share my ideas, my writing, ectera. Its enjoyable, as well as all the hard working developers it makes the place feel like home. Aurora just 'fits' with me, and I have that constant craving to come up with new ideas and designs FOR aurora and to rp on there with my developed characters.

[Frances]

See, that's actually a valid reason. You should've included that in your OP.

Makes it about more than "it's been a year so you should unban me just 'cause"

[Theplahunter]

See, that's actually a valid reason. You should've included that in your OP.

Makes it about more than "it's been a year so you should unban me just 'cause"

 

Well, I mean, really. If I was just a griefer and a troll why would I keep on appealing it over and over?

[Guest]

No, first off, it's not been a year yet since your last appeal, but muh zemantiggs.

Let's go over it again. This was your first appeal. Warning to thou that shall click, this is a very buttery appeal.

I'm sure you remember, but I'll state for those that are uniformed that you, in that miserable excuse for a ban appeal, proceeded to individually attack and snark at anyone who presented their reasons as to why you shouldn't have been welcomed back into the community. I shouldn't have to cite specifics, because I'm keeping this short. So if anyone has question about context, just ask.

I will also mention that back in ye olden days when I actually went onto the Teamspeak and you were on it, you often went out of your way to spill your spaghetti and fail miserably on hitting on other community members of the female disposition. One of them happens to be someone I respect and consider a friend, so you'd have to pardon me when I say, "Fucking really, dude?"

To the extent of TS-related harassment, thankfully that is only as far as it went aside from angsty teenage aggression towards staff members trying to keep order.

Oh look, a buttery reddit post. This one has a bit of salt on it, but I'll leave it out there for anyone who likes salt on their popcorn. Scroll down midway, context is there. Anyway, you (plahunter) made a bunch of posts about how the Aurora staff were basically persecuting you. LIKE, RIGHT AFTER THAT FIRST BAN APPEAL. J♂U♂I♂C♂Y. Y'know, because you were such an independent free spirit back in the day.

So, I talk to you in an attempt to reason with you (or at the very least, to bring out the truth and have the reddit community majority see you as an idiot and shame you for acting like one). I realize the conversation with you is going nowhere, as the both of us combined have made 40 out of the 193 comments of that entire thread just attempting to discuss what you did was WRONG. So I basically drop out of the argument, apologize just so that you'd cool your damn heels and think for a couple minutes.

Augh, I need a drink of water from re-reading all that salt that I created, too.

Your serious appeal. So. Let's get one thing straight. I was the first one to suggest some other sort of action to bring you back into the server environment and see how things changed. I suggested the parole, the parole was put into place. You agreed, and said you wouldn't disappoint.

But then you did, like. Disappoint. Everyone. In the history of ever, on this server. You broke parole no more than two weeks after your parole period, but even then you hardly even played much on the server. And when you got your ban slapped onto you again, evidently staff were urging you to respond to their attempts at communicating with you. You pretty much disappeared when that complaint went up and you said your piece.

Yeah, uh. You know, before you got permanently banned again, I was within the line of thought that people deserved a defined level of leniency no matter what, as it was fair to not just that person, but it'd be the same level of fairness I'd give anyone else. If I didn't suggest that parole to begin with, it'd highly unlikely you would've been around to post this appeal here. So, thanks for being the shining example as to why it's hard for me to really hard to trust people's word sometimes. Oh well.

Not asking you to be grateful or anything, I could really care less at this point. It was a wasted opportunity, that's what it was. But it's only right you understand what the truth is. And the truth is, you may not be right for this server. You've disappointed time and time again with no margin of visible improvement that I or anyone else has seen from you. I do not think the community should take a risk with you again, because your type of attitude have caused valuable members of the community to leave the server before. But, hey, pot calling the kettle black, so. Take my multiparagraph testimony for as much salt as its worth.

Back to SWTOR with me! Good luck with the appeal.

[Theplahunter]

But then you did, like. Disappoint. Everyone. In the history of ever, on this server. You broke parole no more than two weeks after your parole period, but even then you hardly even played much on the server. And when you got your ban slapped onto you again, evidently staff were urging you to respond to their attempts at communicating with you. You pretty much disappeared when that complaint went up and you said your piece.

 

I honestly don't even remember this, you took an hour out of your day to just post all this? Why? Would you appriciate the same thing if you were banned, 1138? That's just mean, man. You take the time to insult me, start pulling up stuff from months ago, yet you claim i'm the bad guy in this situation? Not cool, dude.

[Garnascus]

You ARE the bad guy here plahunter, from what delta posted it appears he originally stuck his neck out a bit for you before and got shafted for it. Frankly I can understand him being more than a little miffed. Instead of attempting to formulate SOME sort of constructive reply you attacked him and deflected the criticism with "i don't remember that".

Why shouldn't I just deny this appeal now?

[Theplahunter]

You ARE the bad guy here plahunter, from what delta posted it appears he originally stuck his neck out a bit for you before and got shafted for it. Frankly I can understand him being more than a little miffed. Instead of attempting to formulate SOME sort of constructive reply you attacked him and deflected the criticism with "i don't remember that".

Why shouldn't I just deny this appeal now?

 

Because i honestly don't remember it, but I understand. Delta did stick his neck out for me and I stabbed him in the back and i'm sorry for it, but I feel a little offended he just insulted me. I'm asking for one chance, I want to rp I don't want to troll or just be toxic. I wouldn't be trying this hard if I did plan to be toxic.

[hivefleetchicken]

Honestly I think it's been long enough. I remember seeing plahunter on Archangel and he was decent. Just put the poor lad on a tight leash.

If he's better than alucard then he's okay in my book, mind you.

[Frances]

Eight month is a long time when you consider some people manage to overcome cocaine dependencies in shorter timelapses.

[Guest]

You ARE the bad guy here plahunter, from what delta posted it appears he originally stuck his neck out a bit for you before and got shafted for it. Frankly I can understand him being more than a little miffed. Instead of attempting to formulate SOME sort of constructive reply you attacked him and deflected the criticism with "i don't remember that".

Why shouldn't I just deny this appeal now?

 

Because i honestly don't remember it, but I understand. Delta did stick his neck out for me and I stabbed him in the back and i'm sorry for it, but I feel a little offended he just insulted me. I'm asking for one chance, I want to rp I don't want to troll or just be toxic. I wouldn't be trying this hard if I did plan to be toxic.

 

You didn't stab me in the back, you just disappointed me.

At the very most, I felt lied to, but not really betrayed.

The issue is, you have been given a chance already and you blundered fantastically the last time you were given it. What makes this time around any different? What do you have to offer?

[ForgottenTraveller]

new ideas and designs FOR aurora and to rp on there with my developed characters.

As Duty Officer handling IC issues that you accrued before the OOC ban cause.

Some information you may need to know:

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Hunter Robinson is fired in the Auroraverse.

Unbanning will not restore him.

He is gone. There is the method of appeal.

However given Hunter Robinsion was a grudging holding, rogue IA agent fabricating duty officers, lying to command staff. Destruction of evidence. Repeatedly ignoring direct orders from your command structure as a loyalty implanted crew. Violating a cease and desist. Violating a restraining order. Publicly disseminated private personnel records including posting them on newscasters. Forced interviews when he had a conflict of interest. Repeatedly misrepresented facts. Conducting multiple illicit investigations to further his own ends and continually reopened closed and sealed cases despite orders not to. The odds are not good that he will ever be allowed back in any capacity.

Also in canon but not part of his firing. Without any medical training gave psych reviews. Prescribed medication for said reviews. Conducted a live autopsy. Physically attacked a few people in the few weeks he was back.

Fabricated (To the point he may as well chair them). The “Humans against Essel” movement and the “Anti-Essel Coalition.”

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So if your ideas and plans had anything to do with Hunter. Or your massive metagrudge against Essel, DO NOT BOTHER COMING BACK.

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On a personal note. I did not care to be alluded to and have my department continually slandered on the r/ss13 sub pretty much the entire time you were here while you continually badmouthed the server and the staff. As such I found dealings with you in and IC and OOC and off server capacity that was wholly unpleasant.

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You say it has been a year. As a reminder to you and all those who set the agreement originally:

Skull132 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:45 am

Here is what the majority of the staff has agreed upon.

A probation of 30 days, during which any offences falling in line with the initial ban reason will result in an immediate permanent ban

Should you, at any point, be banned for offences falling in line with the initial ban reason, that ban will not be available for appeal (unless the evidence and reasoning is up for debate)

That's, basically it. If you are sincere, we won't have any issues.

http://www.aurorastation.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2145&start=30#p21052

Ban 1: Reason of Ban: Reason of ban, the extended one: Repeated harassment of players over TS, forums, despite multiple warnings to the contrary. This also includes harassment of players over LOOC. Note that the player was warned to on multiple accounts about his conduct, over the course of roughly 2-3 months.

Ban 2: Reason of Ban:Breaking unban parole by calling player a 'cunt' in LOOC.

At this point you should pretty much be appealing your right to appeal.

Edited January 13, 2016 by Guest

[nanotoxin]

I hope we don't forget his actions during that whole house server fiasco.

[Guest]

During the second unban appeal, I supported you getting another chance. I regret it almost instantly. The terms were pretty clear; You get unbanned, and in turn, you stop being a toxic asshole. What happened? Almost instantly, you started attacking several players through IC means, in a behavior that borders metagrudging. Atop of that, I think I've seen you being a generally toxic in OOC chat as well and to be frank, the 'cunt' was only an excuse to get your banned again. Overall bad behavior and blatant disregard for the ban parole.

The thing is, you may or may not mean well, but you either lack any sense of self-awareness or are completely incapable of controling your own emotions, which makes you a perpetually exploding toxic barrel that just makes everyone's game more shit.

So, no, as one of the few supporters of you getting unbanned last time around, I am against you getting unbanned second time.

[Skull132]

I hope we don't forget his actions during that whole house server fiasco.

 

"6 months ago."

So you obviously haven't taken the full year to change, despite claiming to the contrary.

Anyways, here's the deal. The reason you were banned for was harassment of other players, and metagrudging said players on top of that. If it were griefing the server, then fine, whatever, no on really cares. But the shit you were banned for is personal, thanks to your own actions, to where having you unbanned will affect those players. Asking for another chance is all fine and good, but there's a certain point where doing so gets silly. Considering the amount of outright warnings, discussions (even before you were initially banned), chances given, and your actions over the last 8 or so months (following your failure to hold up parole), I think this circus is getting very silly, and my will to keep entertaining it is lacking.

Plus, how many times can we ask the people involved to give you a second chance?

[Theplahunter]

As a larger statement, I'd like to present this. And i'd like to say reading back on what I've said with Nanotoxins screenshots; make me feel physically ill, I'm disgusted in myself for even being proud of saying those things or having a title of 'Aurora hating nazi.'

Delta: Where to start... there's so much you did for met that I took for granted it'd be a miracle if you actually forgave me. I'm not expecting you to go 'Give him a chance!' as i've already spent that option and wasted it, i'm just hoping you'll believe me when I say i'm sorry for what I've done. I can't even remember why I didn't respond to Tains report, and if I could i'd go back and actually pay attention. I'd like to apologize to you and everybody for my toxic attitude.

Nursie: The one has so much I need to beg forgiveness for I could probably make a separate post about it. But the first thing i'll say is: No more 'Humans against Essel' (what was I thinking when I made that...) No more constant investigations, no more live autopsy's, and no more fighting. I think we can both agree its gotten pointless and just caused unneeded arguements that I always started due to some stupid grudge over an IC issue. As me myself I want to say sorry, and as my character... I'd like to extend a formal apology to Essel for my xenophobic actions and my specieist behavior.

Tainavaa (I really hope I spelled this right.) : I shouldn't of called you a cunt and I shouldn't of ignored that report you made against me. If I could do it all over, I would of been nicer and less of a prick but that's far gone. And I want to make things right here, in the present and future.

Skull: My actions were terrible and inexcusable, but I hope to atone for my sins and attitude by just being able to provide for the server and allowing an enjoyable experience for everybody. No more ooc bitch fests, no more arguments, just good ol' RP and brainstorming for new server Ideas.

Bokaza: I know it'll be a struggle to get people to accept it, but I'm sorry to each of them. I didn't mean to make them leave the server, I just got too hotheaded. But that isn't an excuse, and if it was it'd be a pretty terrible one.

Forgotten Traveler: I admit it was metagrudge, and all the essel stuff was horrible... The live autopsy is a low blow, but the perscriptions were reccomendations. I'm asking for a chance to bring him back as well, so I can prove I can shape him into a character that is not a total mongoloid assbasket.

Garnascus: Delta did stick his neck out for me a lot, and I regret all I did to upset him and make him disapointed. I want to fix that too, I want to fix everything i've done wrong. I promise this time, its for real.

FFrances and Hivefleet: I can't say anything but thank you for at least trying to help and giving me another chance, I won't let you two down if I do get un-banned.

Nanotoxin: I feel honestly sick reading those logs, I can't believe I could just do things like that. I'm ashamed of myself for putting those on there, and they make me physically ill. It won't happen again, promise. My reactions were over the top and I probably shouldn't of said those things, thank you for saving them: It makes me realize even more what I've done wrong and why everybody is so hesitant.

[Skull132]

I would like to extend my sincerest apologies to Skull, Nursie, FFrances, Witt, and Delta. I was very immature and I wish to come back, as i genuinely enjoyed RPing with you and the players that inhabited the server.

 

We've been here before. Unfortunately, as I said, you used up your chances. Learn from it, and move on. That's roughly the best advice I can give you.

Appeal denied.