Conservan Xullie's ATLAS poster

[Conservatron]

BYOND Key: Conservatron

Character name: Conservan Xullie

Item name: ATLAS Poster

Why is your character carrying said item to work? Xullie is a 'card carrying' member of the ATLAS party and in work places people are typically allowed to bring knickknack or hang stuff up. I intend for the poster to go up behind his locker or in the common room.

Item function(s): Its a poster, click poster on wall to unravel it, tear it off wall to destroy it

Item description: ATLAS: For all of Humanity

Item appearance: I'll take a swing at spriting it, but it'd be a poster with the party banner (credit to Vitt and the ATLAS lore canonization page http://aurorastation.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=1532&hilit=atlas)

Additional comments: I expect this will make tarjaran and unathi engineers upset

[Zundy]

Sorry to bust in but can this just be a think which we can choose in our custom loadouts? I've got a card carrying ATLAS member too and no doubt he would also be rocking this!

[Conservatron]

id be ok with that

[Conservatron]

where can I find a 'blank' poster sprite to try and make the atlas poster appearance?

[TishinaStalker]

Ermmm, what exactly is the goal of having this item? Sounds to me like 9 out of 10 times this is just going to get ripped off the wall and that'll be it for the custom item.

[Conservatron]

show my support for ATLAS on station

its part of the majority government for Sol Alliance and could add to political discourse. There is a whole universe of politics we could explore with people on Aurora and its all hand waived.

and if it gets torn down can't that lead to further rp with people?

[TishinaStalker]

It can if torn down, but for how long? I assume three rounds in it's just like "Yeah, sec, they broke my property. Brig them" and boom, nothing else accomplished. If this was a character that had, say, an office space or an area sanctioned off for their work (see: A xenobiologist who has a degree plaque as a custom item), then it'd make more sense, and would, most likely, mean more. Have something you can flash, but it's somewhere people can't do anything about, and it becomes that small thing in the back of their head every time they have to walk past or have to come in to talk with you. Getting me?

[Zundy]

It can if torn down, but for how long? I assume three rounds in it's just like "Yeah, sec, they broke my property. Brig them" and boom, nothing else accomplished. If this was a character that had, say, an office space or an area sanctioned off for their work (see: A xenobiologist who has a degree plaque as a custom item), then it'd make more sense, and would, most likely, mean more. Have something you can flash, but it's somewhere people can't do anything about, and it becomes that small thing in the back of their head every time they have to walk past or have to come in to talk with you. Getting me?

 

Not really man. No one's going to see that plaque, let alone talk about it (plus every xenobio would have a degree). Posters (especially of ATLAS) are going to get talked about, even if it's just a, " you're into ATLAS? Me too!". Not withstanding the potential for conflict RP.

You're grandpas old flask isn't going to generate any RP. Nor is your old jumper other then "oh, nice jumper" (which is meta anyway since it's just an old jumper. No one comments on these things).

Saying it'll get torn down is a moot point as that in itself is causing more RP then the plaque example (which could also be taken away anyway.)

Edit:

 

The question is for Conserv as it is his application. I'll be waiting for his response to it.

 

I'll be quiet, sorry!

Edited January 26, 2016 by Guest

[TishinaStalker]

The question is for Conserv as it is his application. I'll be waiting for his response to it.

[witchbells]

So like, I know you're waiting on Cons, but I have an idea that might make it seem a little more practical. What if it was one of those little posters from a magazine, and he could fold it up and carry it in his pocket? It would be closer to him, less likely to get torn, and you could probably totally flash people with it.

[Conservatron]

Well for one, I can't imagine sec is going to come down for a poster getting torn down, but that act lasts longer than just the round it happens wouldn't you agree? Sure, its one thing to say 'I support ATLAS' and move on, its another to have physical evidence of the support, especially in a diverse work environment such as the Aurora. I understand your reservations for the poster itself and the belief that it'll just devolve into posted/ torn down by a tarj, however I think that vastly oversimplifies the potential outcomes of rp concerning political parties. As it stands, although ATLAS has a lot of support its rather hush-hush on station because its frankly anti-alien stances and I think something like this (possibly opened up for different political parties having posters in loadout, branching off Zundy's suggestion) could really factor into the long term universe we are trying to develop here on the Aurora.

That being said, nursiekitty also has a good idea if you don't believe a full poster would be feasible, really the intention of the item is to show my support for the political party and if it's a pocket foldout or a membership card I'd be ok with that too. The reason why I was thinking the poster was because it's very visible, and could encourage people to talk to me about ATLAS (or yell at me about it, if that would be)

[TishinaStalker]

Can't really blame my skepticism on that fact. Tons of players with custom items, apparently, have a huge problem actually doing anything at all with their item after they get it, and now I have to scrutinize every custom item with more effort than I used to for it; so I feel like an easily breakable custom item can't fly.

That being said though, I do agree with Nur'Sie's idea. If you would be willing to edit your post to reflect at least something similar to it, then this would have a better chance of being accepted by me.

[Conservatron]

people not being able to do anything with their items is the reason I opted for such a visible and loud thing, obviously I'm not going to bring a folding ATLAS flag and stand or anything like that though lol.

I'll get to work on a rewrite to reflect nursie's suggestion, now to decide if I want it a membership card or a pocket poster, decisions decisions...

[Nanako]

Can't really blame my skepticism on that fact. Tons of players with custom items, apparently, have a huge problem actually doing anything at all with their item after they get it,

 

I would hazard this is because many custom items are small things that go in your backpack or pockets. They're only noticed if you obnoxiously shove them in people's faces by showing it off, and that's kind of unrealistic for any sentimental memento because it's something you've had for a long time, and would get bored of. The player will get bored of doing that too.

This idea on the other hand, is something that can be hung up. Xulie can experiment with hanging it in various places to see where it gets noticed more, and who's likely to support or complain about it. Once placed, it passively inspires RP from anyone on the station. I'd advise giving it a custom description for when its examined, with a mildly offensive message like "'ATLAS: Keep earth safe from filthy xenos', Owned by Conservan Xulie"

I know it's not my decision, but i have to say i like it for this reason. And making it into a membership card, or some other personally-carried item, would not have the same effect. It wouldn't be noticed, and nobody would care after a while. A wall-hanging poster is best, and imo the only implementation worth doing

[incognitojesus]

Application approved as of 07/27/16.

[Alberyk]

Item done and added to the the pull request.

[Alberyk]

Item done and added to the code, you should be able to spawn with it now.