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Make cryoing with full gear a job-bannable offense.


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Title. Short explanation: Even if it's just a few people, there's too many instances of gear being permanently deleted from the game world because folks want to be assholes and go to cryo at the start of the round and are too lazy to drop their things either in a locker or in their department.


Until we get a magical code addition to never delete any equipment, this should be the solution for now on. Folks need to be held responsible for this sort of thing, going to cryo isn't a small thing.

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Not a 'magical' code addition. There's already a system in place that preserves certain items if someone goes to cryo with them on. they can be retrieved from the cryostorage computer


The system works on a whitelist, we can just add more things to it, anything valueable.

What do you have in mind?

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Any belts (sec, med, tool), any HUDs or HUD glasses, and any weapons/holsters, to start.

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Any belts (sec, med, tool), any HUDs or HUD glasses, and any weapons/holsters, to start.

Holsters spawned via custom loadout should be exempt. Weapons are already saved by the cryo computer iirc.

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How about we actually stop people from going cryo with their gear, instead of doing these stupid things with whitelisting close-to every item in the game.

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How about we actually stop people from going cryo with their gear, instead of doing these stupid things with whitelisting close-to every item in the game.

 

Because whitelisting things is actually very easy. DM is an OO language with inheritance.


It's very easy with a single line, to whitelist every gun in existence. Or every belt,, or every paper document, etc. All the specific items inherit from base classes, and those base classes can be whitelisted.


And besides, to 'actually stop' them going into cryo with gear, you'd need to create a blacklist of gear you're not allowed to take with you, which is an identical amount of work anyway, but it would annoy the players more who just want to go get dinner or something. and they'd probably just SSD on the floor instead

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Or just "Make cryoing with full gear a job-bannable offense." as the title says. But honestly, coding less things to be deleted is probably best. The only things I can think of that are really important are RIGs and stamps. You have no idea how many times Ive been fucked by people cryoing with those.

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Make cryoing with full gear a job-bannable offense.

No offense, but this feels like crushing a fly with a sledgehammer unless you make it for an extreme repeat offender.

The white list works, and maybe it should save bags with their stuff.

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You get sledged for breaking any server rule. The whitelist requires the coders to do work and the head dev to merge commits to the code and then perform updates. It will take another month at least for anything new to be started for this week to be started on, and then merged with the git.


This is a simpler solution that admins can enforce until the code can be changed to fix these issues. People who cryo with fully-stocked belts, bags, guns and armor incredibly inhibit the round for mid/late-round joiners.

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Or just "Make cryoing with full gear a job-bannable offense." as the title says. But honestly, coding less things to be deleted is probably best. The only things I can think of that are really important are RIGs and stamps. You have no idea how many times Ive been fucked by people cryoing with those.

 

Cryoing with stamps was eradicated near the tail end of old code thanks to a suggestion I made on the issue, is this not the case anymore on code?

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From the admin perspective.


We already warn people for not cryoing (and simply SSD-ing forever) as single slot jobs. And would eventually, probably jobban for it. Which I think has happened once. Anyways, you should probably shoot an adminhelp if you notice someone making a habit out of it. Otherwise, even if we made it job-bannable full stop, we still wouldn't be having enough information to enforce it!

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