[Accepted] Head of Staff whitelist: Pacmandevil

[Pacmandevil]

BYOND key: Pacmandevil

Character names: Eldmund Fernando (wew) Triston Richards, Jake Todd.

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How long have you been playing on Aurora?: IIRC like - hell. over a year now at least, I think?

Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?: I'm going to be blunt here: I'm tired of incompetent people in medical, most of which admittedly have pink hair. This character's not supposed to be a "Cleanse the heratics" character, far from it. but more of a character that'll teach Incompetent people how to properly play medical. Will it be a liked character by most? No, I very much doubt it. this character by design is hard to please, and quick to anger with incompetence.

Why did you come to Aurora?: Because I Like the slower pace, and regulations enforced on the crew. it feels less like "farty 2d spessmens" - which mind you, has it's time and place, just not here. SS13 with standards.

Have you read the Aurora wiki on the head roles and qualifications you plan on playing?: I have the wiki open near constantly when playing, or when coding. so that would be a yes.

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Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph each.

Give a definition of what you think roleplay is, and should be about: Roleplay - as a concept, is pretending to be something you're not. (Unless you're actually RPing something you are, but that's beside the point.) in SS13, said RP is exaggerated to a large extent, even here. with things such as Security having laughably small brig sentences. this is more to suit the gameplay of the server rather than RP, admittedly. RP should *not* about having a "special" character that clashes visually with normal characters for attention (See, neon haired stuttering nurses)

it should, however be about making a somewhat believable character that fits in with the rest of the crew, without sticking out like a sore thumb. (I know I'll get called out with Fernando for this, but I think I've done a decent job evolving a character that started off as a griffer meme character when I first joined the server, to a somewhat believable character, of which I'm still trying to trim all the meme-turned snowflake stuff off of.)

What do you think the OOC purpose of a Head of Staff is, ingame?:

The OOC purpose of the CMO (as that's mostly what I'm applying for, for now.) is to manage the department, and less be doing everything themselves. this means keeping everyone managed when shit hits the fan. And among other things, they guide new players somewhat regarding Conduct (and to an extent, Game mechanics) In game, heads often have to make decisions regarding events in said rounds, an example of this can be how to deal with antags, among other things.

What do you think the OOC responsibilities of Whitelisted players are to other players, and how would you strive to uphold them?:

to me, at least. Whitelisted players have three main commandments.

* Don't fuck with other people's RP for no reason. - if doctors are playing a game of cards in medical, you shouldn't try to get them arrested for neglect of duty if nothing's going on. if the station is in shambles and there's corpses up the walls, then it'd be fair to, as an example.

*Give antags a chance - This doesn't apply as much to the CMO, but all heads of staff generally have the chance to make or break the antag's round in the backround. Eg: if the heads of staff decide to arrest a wizard for trespassing, instead of allowing entry. if they're flat out ganking people though, it's perfectly understandable to deal with the threat. The reason this is - is that generally the remainder of the round will be pretty boring for the crew. this of course doesn't apply to extended. because extended is already boring

*Maintain the department - This doesn't mean "No fun allowed reee" - it means keep standards to your department, EG a CMO should rightfully get angry if someone's getting operated on without sedatives, or without gloves or something. also called "Common sense".

 

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Please pick one of your characters for this section, and provide well articulated responses to the following questions.

Character name: Isadore Larson

Character age: 46

Please provide a short biography of this character (approx 2 paragraphs):

Alright, admittedly this is probably the hardest part about character creation for me. I suck at backstories. Almost all of my characters are based on some type of trope and general personality traits. - Big buff miner, Friendly mallcop-Security Officer, Polite and professional MD. I in general work slowly on backstories, filling them out as required as I get more comfortable RPing as said character, and get a feel for what would fit them best.

I'm not saying I'm good at this by any means, but just as a principle, they'd have all the experience required to be the CMO. all the schooling etc, perhaps like 8 years of experience?

I'm not going to play this character as SuperCMO, they barely know chemistry (Like think science kit tier. I'm not doing chemistry in game as a general rule.) , and generally specialist in surgery and MDing. Other than that, I like to well, evolve the character as I go. I've been working on Fernando for like a year now and still am not happy with it at all.

Edit because the above isn't an actual biography but I need one for whatever reason. I'm not deleting it because it's relevant.:

The basic timeline would be:

At around 15, Izadore was a big sports kinda dude, joined a sports club or something. messed their knee up which shut that idea down.

then - because they were gunning for a carrier in sports and diddled their knee - they started from scratch for a carrier in medical.

They enlisted in the Biesel institute of medical sciences at the age of 18 - and finished undergrad four years later. - they had no social life during this time, so of course they had decent grades.

they got a MD degree another four years later, being 26 at this time. Stayed in a surgical residency at UristMcMedical Station for about 7 years, worked as a surgeon there for another 4.

Signed a contract With Nanotrasen for a while I honestly don't know.

Worked on NT stations for about 6 years, before getting promoted to CMO.

Yes this is short - because I haven't developed the character at all yet.

The below kept for sanity purposes.

Started medical school at 18 at the Biesel Institute of Medical Sciences - Finished undergrad four years later.

A farther four years to get a MD degree.

About 7 years of surgical residency at a Hospital station - I couldn't find a wiki page for this, and I'd rather not make headcanon.

about 9 years of work as a surgeon, presumably on a NT ship or station.

Got a promotion to CMO at around age 42.

All of the above is subject to change, and likely will be changed during the development of the character.

What do you like about this character?:

Hopefully their high standards will improve medical, they're harsh. and have high standards. expecting everyone to be professional at their duties, and not being happy when they aren't.

Stuff like breaks or whatever is fine, Isadore's not going to care if a Paramedic's playing a game of cards if nobody's injured. but if a Surgeon's incompetent, they won't be happy.

What do you dislike about this character?:

At worst, the character will make newer players dislike playing Medical when I'm around. as a character: they're likely going to be unlikable if you're the that made them deal with you. A good comparison would be Gordon Ramsey but a CMO, as they're a heavy inspiration for the character.

What do you think makes this character fit to be a head of staff?:

They have high standards-likely more than most CMOs on station, and won't tolerate laziness. or Ignorance. people are supposed to be professionals. that means knowing how to do their job.

If it's painfully obvious that someone's new, then I'll make an effort to guide them. but if they're being detrimental to the department, they won't be tolerated.

 

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Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions.

Edited September 16, 2017 by Guest

[Guest Complete Garbage]

Pacman is pretty great, and I like(d?) Eldmund.

My biggest issue with this application is the name 'Isadore.' You'd be far better off naming your character after a precious gem.

Either way, I like the premise behind this character. +1 from me.

[Pacmandevil]

My biggest issue with this application is the name 'Isadore.' You'd be far better off naming your character after a precious gem.

 

Issue spotted and corrected, you can now refer to them as "Diamond Sparkletits"

[Coalf]

Got a promotion to CMO at around age 42.

Got a mistake there friend.

Backstory is run of the mill stuff no complaints no compliments, everyone pretty much makes white bread when applying for heads, even me.

But there is an issue I want to address.

Are you going to improve your style and demeanor on RP?

Both OOC and IC you've shown severe lack in Roleplay and as I remember it one of your continuous major issues seems to be interaction with people itself.

And you have to admit, this is a MASSIVE issue. If you're applying for a role that does nothing besides interact and talk to people in their department as you yourself said, which means interaction, lots and lots of interactions along with solving command issues, security breaking into medical and much much more bullshit.

Otherwise you're very mechanically and robustically gifted and I admit I'd like to see someone capable in medbay besides the usuals that appear once the moon is full and the stars shine over R'lyeth as Cthulhu awakens from his grave.

But until you address the issues above I'll be withdrawing my judgement.

[Pacmandevil]

But there is an issue I want to address.

Are you going to improve your style and demeanor on RP?

Both OOC and IC you've shown severe lack in Roleplay and as I remember it one of your continuous major issues seems to be interaction with people itself.

And you have to admit, this is a MASSIVE issue. If you're applying for a role that does nothing besides interact and talk to people in their department as you yourself said, which means interaction, lots and lots of interactions along with solving command issues, security breaking into medical and much much more bullshit.

Otherwise you're very mechanically and robustically gifted and I admit I'd like to see someone capable in medbay besides the usuals that appear once the moon is full and the stars shine over R'lyeth as Cthulhu awakens from his grave.

But until you address the issues above I'll be withdrawing my judgement.

 

See - the reason I picked CMO out of all the devolp a head character for, is that a Good CMO is Forced to RP just by doing the job correctly which it's not like people do ree

and I think that you're overstating the "Severe Lack" in RP to an extent. I will openly admit that I won't put as much RP in game as I will in say Discord - and I mean this as starting RP. I never (At least in Recent times) Make an effort to break character, or even have done so recently.

There's a couple of hurdles I'll have to get used to if playing CMO - of which is making an effort to interact with more people Icly.

I also intend to do the job correctly - This means paperwork as well, which I've noticed a large lack of the few times I get administered to medical. (Though I always do paperwork when I do MD. fuck doing it as mining though, the QM can do it.)

The character - admittedly by design, isnt going to hop into something and start RP Unless: A. they notice someone doing something wrong, being a shitter or otherwise

or B. Need to step in for mechanical reasons.

I'm not going to claim to be the best, or even really even good at RPing. but the job kinda makes me, if that makes sense. so I've designed the character around that fact.

though I shudder to think of when I will eventually, because it's going to happen, join Fernando as a head of staff.

[Coalf]

See - the reason I picked CMO out of all the devolp a head character for, is that a Good CMO is Forced to RP just by doing the job correctly which it's not like people do ree

Yes but you see, you should have already been on a good level of interaction beforehand before forcing yourself into situations you might not be able to process or handle, I know from experience it's really easy to fall back into reflex and just powergame your way out of an issue.

I solved this by becoming severly unrobust.

and I think that you're overstating the "Severe Lack" in RP to an extent. I will openly admit that I won't put as much RP in game as I will in say Discord - and I mean this as starting RP. I never (At least in Recent times) Make an effort to break character, or even have done so recently.

While I admit I exagarated in the "severe lack" your RP is still not up to something I'd consider above-average, but that could be simply from the fact I have BARELY seen any other character than Fernando and he himself is barely on station as a miner. You see why I'm concerned about this? You actually aren't on station to talk to people that much and while you talk to miners a plenty as I've seen it, miners tend to be simple people with simple dialogue and simple minds. (Characters not players)

There's a couple of hurdles I'll have to get used to if playing CMO - of which is making an effort to interact with more people Icly.

I also intend to do the job correctly - This means paperwork as well, which I've noticed a large lack of the few times I get administered to medical. (Though I always do paperwork when I do MD. fuck doing it as mining though, the QM can do it.)

 

I like this part, you admit it will be a difficult job and I myself admit I am not opossed to you getting the whitelist, I am opossed to you getting the whitelist and getting burned out in two days at which point you jump back to Fernando and never play CMO again, which I have seen happen PLENTY of times with peopel who've gotten a heads of staff.

These questions were also intended for the general public to view your opinion, I'm not against giving you this whitelist but remember, if you decide to just quit after a week or two I'll haunt you forever.

+1

[Superiorform]

First up: the application itself. Me likey. Me likey very much. Your answer to the roleplaying question hits all the spots about believability. I like that you are not making a "Super-CMO" which I believe we see all to often now. You're answers about not fucking with RP, and especially giving antags a chance, I agree with massively. The character you have described seems fit to be a head of staff, and I would be happy to see that character on station.

However, I very rarely interact with, or even see your characters. I really would like a chance to see how you roleplay before I gave a +1. I would like to see you play a character who spends more time on station before I +1. Good luck with your app!

[AllyBearsley]

Pacman, when I first joined this server and had to deal with Eldmund on a semi-regular basis, I had a hard time not hating you. Your IC and OOC attitude was pretty bad. However, when you decided to change Eldmund from a shit meme to something resembling an actual character I was surprised. Even more surprised when you actually started pulling it off and suddenly Eldmund wasn't this meme recreation that people only allowed because "HAH TF2 REFERENCE" and made me think of an actual human being that could feasibly exist in reality. You now also help with coding and generally do things beneficial to Aurora. You meme it up a lot, but that's not something that one person does negatively or not.

So your RP and general attitude has improved. Your character looks solid. You biography is really too the point, doesn't let us know too much about the character, but I can understand that since this is a fresh built for this job character. It's easier to mold a character on the move, while playing and acting things out as them. Writing something for a whitelist can be rough. It's why I have a terribly hard time with whitelists. also how little im able to play right now

I'm with Coalf on wondering if you're really up to playing a character that will have to engage in social interaction with others, but if you're willing to give it a shot buy god I support that.

[Azande]

Very abrasive OOCly and sometimes outright rude. bad opinions on how things should be run ICly as a player. -1 from me.

[Pacmandevil]

bad opinions on how things should be run ICly as a player.

 

Can you expand on this any?

[Azande]

bad opinions on how things should be run ICly as a player.

 

Can you expand on this any?

 

Yes, I believe it was you and paradox that lamented on how mining should not be obligated to mine resources for science, and that you in fact frequently do not tell Science if any resources are available for them. While this may seem FINE in your books, I believe it's a very negative thing - you are outright taking the fun away from those that play in Science, because RnD and Robotics (the two main divisions of science) both require minerals to advance further into the realm of enjoyable things to do. As a Head Whitelistee, it is absolutely your responsibility to ensure that players get an equal chance at enjoying the round unless they're breaking regulations, being disrespectful etcetera, and in-game, Science is more important than anything on station, and your Heads or IAA should be incredibly invested in getting Science what it needs.

[Pacmandevil]

bad opinions on how things should be run ICly as a player.

Yes, I believe it was you and paradox that lamented on how mining should not be obligated to mine resources for science, and that you in fact frequently do not tell Science if any resources are available for them. While this may seem FINE in your books, I believe it's a very negative thing - you are outright taking the fun away from those that play in Science, because RnD and Robotics (the two main divisions of science) both require minerals to advance further into the realm of enjoyable things to do. As a Head Whitelistee, it is absolutely your responsibility to ensure that players get an equal chance at enjoying the round unless they're breaking regulations, being disrespectful etcetera, and in-game, Science is more important than anything on station, and your Heads or IAA should be incredibly invested in getting Science what it needs.

 

If I may direct you to the wiki:

Simply put, the Shaft Miner has three duties, as follows:

Extract ore from the asteroid

Process ore at the outpost's smeltery

Report the materials yield using a Yield Declaration from the documents repository in the requests console.

 

Nowhere in there does it say "Bring materials to science because they're too lazy to ask"

Or even "Inform science that there's materials for them to waste on bags of holding and other stuff instead of anything actually productive for the station"

if they want materials - they can ask the QM, but that's out of the scope of the post.

[Azande]

Proactivity is one of the major functions of a head of staff. You are here to make things easier for people, not harder.

[Pacmandevil]

miners also aren't heads of staff - so I fail to see how that applies to this at all.

[Zundy]

Can't really judge an IC reaction from a non managerial character for a head whitelist. If he was playing QM and didn't do it then that's vaild critcism. In theory the miners shouldn't be delivering the goods at all, it should be cargo techs.

[Azande]

[mention]Zundy[/mention] He said this OOCly, as a player, that these are his OOC beliefs in discord.

[Pacmandevil]

@Zundy He said this OOCly, as a player, that these are his OOC beliefs in discord.

 

...When I'm playing mining, yes. those are my OOC beliefs. OOC beliefs are also a lot different from IC ones.

Science is fucking useless In game most of the time, canonly it's the most important department on the station.

[Azande]

@Zundy He said this OOCly, as a player, that these are his OOC beliefs in discord.

 

...When I'm playing mining, yes. those are my OOC beliefs. OOC beliefs are also a lot different from IC ones.

Science is fucking useless In game most of the time, canonly it's the most important department on the station.

 

The way you had expressed them it appeared it was a character-spanning mantra that you maintained as an individual. If that isn't the case, by all means I'll withdraw my -1.

[Faris]

Hi, so just a small nitpick. Apps are meant to display a persons writing skill among a plethora of other things and your application is devoid of a proper background story, I'd like you to transform the following thing.

 

The basic timeline would be:

Started medical school at 18 at the Biesel Institute of Medical Sciences - Finished undergrad four years later.

A farther four years to get a MD degree.

About 7 years of surgical residency at a Hospital station - I couldn't find a wiki page for this, and I'd rather not make headcanon.

about 9 years of work as a surgeon, presumably on a NT ship or station.

Got a promotion to CMO at around age 42.

All of the above is subject to change, and likely will be changed during the development of the character.

 

Into a background story format. You're not required to be specific, but doing this will in my books gives more credit to the application as a whole.

[Pacmandevil]

Into a background story format. You're not required to be specific, but doing this will in my books gives more credit to the application as a whole.

 

See: this is where I fall flat. because this character isn't even a character yet - as I haven't had the chance to work on them at all. As of right now they're just an Idea and a purpose shoved into a shell.

As an example - Fernando's backstory is still kinda underdeveloped, and I've been working on the guy for like a year now. Backstories are something I'm admittedly hot trash at.

Like: could I throw something together? Yes, I could. would it be a high quality? Probably not. Would it 99% be reworked and retconned out as the character gets developed? yes.

Fernando (post meme, not the mexican wrestler shit)'s sole purpose was "Miner" - and All they do, as a concept, is Mine. and I like to think I do a good job of it.

As the character grew - it got some quirks like their Admittedly fucked view on things, their distaste in Incompetence, among other things - while still keeping mining, and securing them Valids

as the main focus of the character.

[Faris]

I honestly just want to see you try, I put a strong emphasis on the will to do something and improve. Just turn those bundle of sentences into a paragraph or two.

[Faris]

I've spoken with the applicant and I feel with how he responded to feedback here, that while his background story is not within what I'd like to see, it is by no means a crippling factor. I'm going to go ahead and accept this.

Application approved.