Azande Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Basically, if a staff member's character is ahelped about by another player during the round, that staff member regardless of their position should deadmin (aka, temporarily remove staff status in the current round), so the staff on feel free to discuss the ahelp and cannot be influenced by the staff member in question in the ahelp. Obviously once the ahelp is handled, they should be free to re-admin.
Skull132 Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Erm. Why? The staff literally spend all the time they're on Discord with one-another. They're pretty comfortable towards each other. There's also a lack of empirical evidence (cumplants) about this ever being an issue.
Azande Posted January 22, 2018 Author Posted January 22, 2018 Personally, whenever I ahelp in regards to an admin or mods character, I have a concern about them discussing the incident with the handling staff in the msay/asay, both things that players can only ever see in memes and could never complain about. It's also apparently something a lot of staff do out of courtesy anyways.
Scheveningen Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Why? You're not going to see the adminhelps anyway if they were de-adminned just to be questioned. They will be influenced by the staff member as part of their testimony regardless, such as a player is able to smoothtalk out of trouble in the same capacity. Msay/asay helps save time and annoying bwoinks by putting their empirical point of view/testimony where admins can easily see it. This wouldn't really change much. Staff de-admin themselves largely because they don't want to deal with a flood of bwoinks during a period where they aren't interested in seeing information overflow, especially when they're playing a round-important job such as command staff. Sure, it isn't "fair" but I've been complained about before in-round and I went ahead to grab logs from my POV to screenshot and paste directly into msay and it helped clear the issue in seconds. If staff transparency is still such a defining issue for you after all of this time you've complained about it, I'm surprised you haven't left because of it. Edited January 22, 2018 by Guest
Skull132 Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Personally, whenever I ahelp in regards to an admin or mods character, I have a concern about them discussing the incident with the handling staff in the msay/asay, both things that players can only ever see in memes and could never complain about. Consider. Whenever you adminhelp a player, you never get to see about the PMs they exchange with the admin/mod either. :thinking_face: It's also apparently something a lot of staff do out of courtesy anyways. I've never seen this happen. Though I've not been on that much lately.
Scheveningen Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Stop stealing my ideas! I'm smarter than you!
Azande Posted January 22, 2018 Author Posted January 22, 2018 No Well time to pack up and go home then, I tried.
Faris Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 I personally do it if it's a relatively heavy ahelp that may take more than a few seconds to deal with. Yes, out of courtesy but that's heavily based on the fact I'm a Head Administrator and I want the team to deal with the issue without me looking over it. It's not something I'm going to stipulate as mandatory as I trust the staff to conduct themselves in a way befitting to their position and trust put in them. Voting for dismissal.
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