MattAtlas

Some people here have gotten the wrong idea about why this PR wasn't merged for so long. I'm seeing some very farfetched theories (that we waited on purpose?). What actually happened is that most of the maintainer team is often really busy and we handle PRs in bulk. There were 12 maintainer discussion PRs yesterday with some made even a year ago, with all of them being handled at once yesterday (the git log is proof of this). It is really just bad faith to claim that we were "avoiding community feedback" when in reality this is just us taking a long time to handle these things due to real life.

One thing is confusing me, what does "If the INDRA exploded due to sabotage, it wouldn't be on a small, isolated corner" mean? The INDRA does not have variable explosion sizes, it always explodes the same way and with the same radius.

While I understand the point of what you're saying, the all caps in certain parts is pretty unnecessary and only makes what you're saying come off as either passive aggressive, or more noise than argument. That said, I do agree that removing them from non-work uniforms is kind of bad in hindsight. I wouldn't be opposed to them being readded.

Added the following rule:

You are ban evading. No.

I'll take a look at this tomorrow since I caused quite a few of these with tgui

I had a reply written up but this is the last drop of water. Three years of work for this server, months and days of my life spent working on shit like TGUI and brainmed, working with people for feedback, only to get to hear something as wonderful as "it's okay to ignore maintainers maliciously and you should do it" over insulated fucking gloves. I don't even know what to say honestly.

Voting for dismissal for the same reasons as last time. This was already discussed by maintainers and I don't expect the judgement to change.

Some IRL stuff prevented me from answering for a while but this will be the last post on the matter. A month isn't really that much time, no. We've seen people generally appeal and end up being the same after a year or more of being banned. We're familiar with the times it takes and, while we don't necessarily think you're lying, it's up to us to judge how much someone should be out for. This alone confirms to me that you have not, in fact, changed. Getting upset at your appeal being rejected and calling staff powertrippers is not proof of improvement. No action will be taken and the appeal restriction will stand.

now?

I'm going to limit what I say on the argument to one, maybe two posts because I think the discourse around Medical is so toxic and demotivating that it makes me want to revert brainmed and bring the server back to the stone age because of the sheer level of regret I have over contributing anything to this set of players. The level of shit I've gotten over a simple change (that I genuinely believe in, mind) is absolutely mindboggling and frankly unthinkable - if it were a contributor on my end I'm pretty sure they'd have quit the community already. But let's get on with it. This being used as an argument to keep sensors as they are is emblematic of the entire problem I have with medical as it is. It's a department where one mistake gets you crucified (before anyone says otherwise, this happened to me just a week ago and I had to delete a character over it, I adminhelped it and was told it was an IC issue - oh well!), where not having a window open on the right side of your monitor is seen as a bad thing because you need to be ready 24/7, where powergaming is the expectation rather than a rulebreak (how many people used the medkit exploit? that's right, most of them) and where toxicity is justified because otherwise the department would be nerfed. Oh, and it's also the only department where a nerf gets you accused of wanting to "humble" medical players or of "making spite PRs" or generally being clueless. Or, apparently as I'm seeing right now, the argument is so heated that it justifies calling one of my contributions "asinine and stupid". What people fundamentally miss is that you don't get out of this situation where not powergaming gets you abused by just ignoring it and keeping it as is. Sensors being nerfed is part of the work needed to do that. But other than that, I think they're unnecessarily limiting for antagonists and I've always held the idea that they run completely counter to the base of SS13, which is an action horror game - where's the horror part of it if you know where everyone is? Sure, everyone talks about "you need to be prepared" or "just make a radio jammer" but I'd like any of you to tell me out of the blue how to make one. That's pretty niche knowledge that 99% of the server simply doesn't have memorized. It feels like a gigantic noob trab - why should someone have to throw away their first round just to then know how to make something that counters sensors? I don't agree with that line of thought. Maybe other people do, but for a long time we've done nothing but ignore the problem of antags having zero space to operate in.

I asked for their reasoning and it's pretty objective - you just racked up too many notes in too short of a time, so it's not "just a mistake" that's keeping you banned. There's no real reason to think you'd improve only a month after. When we unban someone we generally want to be fairly certain that we don't have to permaban them again.

Try logging in now.

What exactly is being contested here? If the staff member in question feels like they're taking a risk unbanning you, then that's that. You aren't entitled to being unbanned only a month after a permanent ban: it's not supposed to be a light punishment.

I don't particularly know how I can believe that you posted a picture connected to a slur commonly used against Ukrainians without knowing what it meant. I can doubly not believe it when looking at your post history. You are also no stranger to using slurs in the relay: Or expressing fairly hostile sentiments to Ukrainians: In short, I don't believe you. Appeal denied.

Accepted.

Unbanned, sorry for the delay. Don't log in with that obscene ckey again though.

I'll handle this now. I think there are a few misconceptions in your post that come as a result of Aurora staff handling things differently from other servers (and maybe unintuitively). If we want something to be seen to the other person (generally if they logged out) we use warnings because they prevent you from joining unless acknowledged. It doesn't really necessarily mean that you'll get banned on the next go. Even if Read only noted you in this instance, if it happened again you'd still get a warning. Staff members generally respond to their own complaints as a form of courtesy. It doesn't mean that they're handling the complaint itself, just that they're trying to explain their viewpoint to you. I'm not sure why you'd call her insufferable when all she's done is just explain what she did. That said, I do think the warning's wording is maybe a bit too hostile, and I don't like part of her reply above. I'll be talking to Read about these two things, but the warning will stand. Locking in 24 hours.

Ban should be lifted, give it a go.

In your ban reason: Denied.

The old channel system isn't good. The channels fill up and we can't make any more apartments, plus it totally clogs the channel list. Would be an absolute pain in the ass to migrate everything back to channels too - there are people RPing in channels in the forums right now.

Unbanned.

Not happening.

I think the only thing I dislike is the name being a direct import from TG lore (Gorlex has been in game for ages, IIRC they were named on a few of the mechs way back). It should be unique to us.

Unbanned, although I also gave a heads up to bay admins that your account was hacked as you were in that server - you might have to ask them to unban you too. Remember to use the format next time.