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Oh, this is just a mapping issue. Those turfs aren't meant to be used in maintenance anymore. It will be fixed in due time. Speaking of which, I'll have to add that this testmerge and feedback thread admittedly jumped the gun a little. Most of these things haven't been finalized, so I suggest people reign in their expectations a bit.

A quick preface for the feedback : THIS IS A FEEDBACK THREAD FOR SPRITES! NOT MAPPING! COLORS : They've actually always been this way. It's just that the way they have been rendered in the past has just been criminally desaturated from the PoopDark trend from eons ago. For particular sections that need darker colors, they need to be remapped with the proper colours. Also, this fix has also fixed the paint gun. Which should actually follow your colors properly. For weird lines in the middle of decals, tiles not being fully coloured by decals, those are mapping issues. The mapper did not use the proper coloring decal. Anyway. Just make sure your feedback isn't a mapping issue. I'm serious.

I have an overwhelming premonition that people are going to start to ask to port things, so I'm making a thread.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll be willing to code stuff like this, so anyone reading this thread feel free to suggest stuff too.

Basically, make med-scanners unavailable for departments other than medical and dedicated medical rooms on shuttles, away ships, independents etc. Reasons : 1. More reasons for people to interact with Medical's mechanics. / Basic medical diagnosis is already there It is fun to be able to flex your ghetto medical skills. It makes things interesting. Anyway, most injuries are mostly an examine-bandage fix anyway, so even then, you don't even need to go through the trouble. 2. "Soft" mechanical skills for medical. Inherently, it makes sense for only trained medical staff and contractors to understand how to use one. Anything more complex is out of the purview of the layman crewmember who shouldn't be attempting medical stuff anyway other than CPR. It's not like you need to know the 0.1 burn/brute damage to apply an autoinjector. 3. Gives more agency to medical players Rather than having more people having baseline medical skills that makes medical's jobs moot, it encourages people to actually go see someone from medical for an actual diagnosis, better yet, give medical more opportunities to step up. Anyway. If you REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted a medical scanner... just ask medical. Roleplay for it. It's just like asking engineering for insulated gloves. Better yet, just play medical in the first place. Now. I know the argument of the health analyser being a "basic item", but I really do believe it's not, it's just thought to be so by virtue of just existing there for so long. However, the "basic" actions can be already be achieved by grab-examining. This also applies for the argument that "it's an augment, therefore it's basic, removing it would force people to pick it." You can use augments to hack doors. You can also just bash it open using a crowbar. You can use the medical scanner augment to scan injuries. You can also just grab-examine.

Yeah, this feels too much of a gimmick. It's Clown/Mime tier of job title. A new fancy title isn't going to be turning heads or changing player behavior anytime soon. It's happened before with the Chaplain and Psychologist, which *still* struggle to find RP unless they instigate it themselves.

Actually, scratch this. I need to rewrite this

Alright. This may be either ridiculously controversial or basically nothing. So, I'm looking to standardize the department colors. Most of the other departments seem to be fine as-is. However, Security. It's red on comms, and blue for the department, and whatever the hell is on the wiki. Well, light blue. Command is a dark navy blue. Anyway, I'm looking to standardize this shit, for Artistic and Sprite Purposes. Anyway, recoloring security back to red. Ever since departments died and corporations took over this will have little to no effect on people's drip. Which I'm certain most people are concerned with. At the most, this will affect the security winter coat, security jackets and other generic department equipment. Which again should not be a problem since we have corporate alternatives to above.

I've only been able to participate in the last event, but I'll share my thoughts, I guess. 1. Permadeath, Risk and Reward It's a given, and I think it's fine. Maybe have a bit of starter information that will help players gauge the danger they will be putting themselves in. This has inadvertently led to crewmembers arming themselves to the teeth for justifiable paranoia. This led to those actually going to dangerous locations and spelunking with less equipment. Those going to relatively safe locations such as the town had unnecessary firepower. Which meant that the crew had to have weapons drop-podded in and loot goblining the inn for weapons. As a suggestion to remedy this, have a brief synopsis of the area - taking the last event's location for example. Danger Levels : None - Ship Low - Town Moderate - Wilderness High - Caverns This will not really spoil anything, but will give the players a choice to sate their desired appetite for risk and reward. 2. Equipment The ship was definitely underequipped. The single tile wide hallway to both the armory and medical didn't help either. It could stand to have more materials and other goods. 3. Department involvement. Other than medical and security, the other department characters really have left nothing to do. I do feel that the ability to chop down trees and whatnot is a step in the right direction. Give engineering something to do. Perhaps have science own the only translator and respective access to artifacts found.

I think the design sans tree is fine. It's already a pretty busy landmark, and I feel the Bar/Kitchen doesn't need more flair. +1

Honestly, the real point is because of my OCD, really. Six departments, Six access areas, Six manifest categories. It just doesn't really sit right with me that we have a "department" with no real department, so to speak. On the Wiki, the Manifest, and the Job selection menu - it just looks so out of place. I mean, for Bay, they have more departments too, and stuff. So that's pretty justified. But here it's just....eh?

Corporate Liaison - Moving them back to Service/Civilian would be good. It's where they were originally, IIRC. For Bridge Crew, their job scope mostly involves Piloting, which could very easily be an Operations job. (Something like Bay.) The stuff about being mini-command and negotiating with other parties is already fulfilled by Security for the most part. Haven't really figured something out for the corporation stuff, but it just bugs me having such a superfluous department. Especially after the removal of Service Manager.

Echoing Garn's sentiment here. Also, this should've been a Lore Canonization Application. Locking and archiving.

So, I've been "inspired" by the old geezers thread about Aurora's long and storied history about being an Apollo branch-off, and the off-chance discussions about the past by old-timers on the discord. I guess being the longest standing HRP server is something pretty impressive. So I was thinking, it would be pretty cool to have just a page about the server's history, and how it's developed over the years. Are people even interested in this kind of thing, better yet, in making it? I don't know, I just thought it was interesting. I'm the type of guy who thinks going to museums are fun. Which they are, very fun.

This thread is quickly getting out of hand. @Sniblet, I recommend re-suggesting this as a custom item. As for policy on Job Accessibility, please move this to the Policy Suggestions section. For discussion on about adding this item into the loadout, It'd be preferable to see some actual demand for said item before going forward with this (other than OP and hypothetical characters).

Well, how's this for an idea - you still can Hydroponics characters. How? Well, now Xenobotany has access to regular hydroponics, however not vice versa. So the 18 year old Botanist can still exist, but just not go into the science backrooms. On the flip side, the 40 year old Xenobotanist can fill in for the Hydroponicist if they wanted. However, they can stay cooped up in their science lab if they want.

Oh yes, I should probably clear the air on this : This is *not* a destructive merger, i.e. one or the other is going to get removed for the other. It's an additive merge. Basically "why not both?" kind of deal. For example, Hydroponics would be nearly identical - however, there's a door that leads to a Xenobotanist backroom that hooks up to the science department. Same with Chemistry. It'd just mean there's more counters to poke your head out of. You walk to the right, it's medical. You walk to the left, it's science.

Well, it's perfectly fine for hydroponics to stay a chill role - it's not like Xenobotanist is particularly crucial to the functioning of the ship as well. It's just that with the jobs merged, it gives people more FREEDOM to roleplay whatever you'd like. You're a stoner trying to genetically breed the greatest strain of cannabis imaginable? It's possible now. You're a SUPER SERIOUS RESEARCH MAN. You can do it too. You just want to be The Watermelon Seller? That's fine too. I'm not for pushing for more responsibility here - just more freedom of choice. Which is also in vein of the problem-solving quick thinking whatever. It's ultimately dictated by the players, so why not give them more mechanical freedom. Also chemistry SHOULD be at a junction inbetween science and medical. So you know, both departments can interact with them. Not because it's going to be crucial to both departments, no, but it's basically doubling the roleplay that chemistry can get by virtue of being in the middle of two departments.

So, there's two jobs that are arguably the most understaffed, yet desperately needed by their peers. So it ends up so someone has to *begrudgingly* be forced to play them so said partner jobs can function properly. I've heard stories of people making characters just so they can simply do these jobs for 30 minutes just to cryo immediately after. What are these jobs? Hydroponics and Chemistry. Honestly, I don't blame people. They're the most one dimensional jobs ever - basically ingredientslaves to their counterparts. Yes - people can get creative, but they're limited by both mechanical and roleplay capacity. So here's my proposal. 1. Merge Hydroponics and Xenobotany. Honestly, it's very obvious that both jobs are half of a single one. For Hydroponics, once you've done growing all prerequisite vegetables, you're done. Cryo. For Xenobotany, once you've finished tinkering and growing a funny bluespace tomato, you look for an antag (but that's powergaming, so you can't.) If it's extended, even better. Straight to Cryo. 2. Move chemistry to be a science job, or at the very least, a Med-Sci job. It's very obvious from how Scientists are able to do chemistry, with their own chemical dispensers and whatnot. Which is odd, since Pharmacists can't do chemistry. Scientists can basically *do* Chemistry. So what is supposed to be one job supporting both departments becomes a one-dimensional job of being a medicine slave. Which is quite depressing, seeing how chemistry is missing out on y'know, having fun with the job, doing experiments, making bombs etc. So I'm asking to restrict scientists from doing chemistry. Because that's the chemist's job. To do.

I'm pretty sure this was kind of tried before with "The Grimdark Update" TM wherein there was huge talk about having vendors randomly spawn with substantially less items, grime randomly spawning on the floors, maintenance being more random, more lights being broken on roundstart etc. So janitor had more stuff to do, I guess. I can't recall the entirety of it. Anyway I think it would be pretty neat to port the soapstones from /TG/ (basically cross-round graffiti and messages), and to a lesser extent cross-round blood and stuff (from Bay, I think). Would be in the same vein, I guess.

+1, shows great potential also already knows github, which is a plus.

Actually, was thinking of making a pinned thread for port requests. Could give amateur coders things to do.

Oh no I'm not for removing the library. It's like, making it way bigger. To add more stuff.