Loorey

To ammend to this: Depending on what is being done by the antagonist, LOOC might or might not be the place for it - ultimately LOOC is also toggleable so you should never take any response from your LOOC messages for granted. But more importantly: There's nothing, ever, stopping you from Ahelping something. Period. You do not even get into direct contact with the player you are Ahelping. We are there to for one, enforce the rules, but secondly also act as neutral mediators in the middle of people that have an issue with each other. We are not going to laugh at you if you Ahelp because you are uncomfortable with something, we are going to neutrally look at it, see what we think about the situation and then find a solution. I've seen a recently very big trend of "...but I don't want to Ahelp this..." for no reason whatsoever. Seriously, if you think something is odd, does not belong here: Ahelp it.

I'll have to totally second what Lanze said here before me. When you're playing an antagonist you naturally get put into odd and awkward spots throughout the round, for example, someone catches you doing thing X or Y, or whatever. If I as an antagonist have to look through someone's "antagonist interaction preferences" or whatever you wish to call the final idea before considering to interact with them, let it be before I even started antagging or on the fly, I'll have an even rougher time, with zero need for it. There's already a lot of OOC bashing going on towards some antagonist players or specific gimmick ideas "...oh the antag did not do anything..." - things along those lines, we try to keep it at bay but it just naturally occurs or happens somewhere that isn't public. As an antagonist you're pretty much there to drive roleplay, entertain others, steer the round into other directions, with this you'll be significantly handicapped. Let me be quite simple and basically repeat what was said before me: When you see 'Secret' or an actually voted antagonist gamemode, and you ready up, you are agreeing to participate in the round and interact with others. This includes antagonists. They are as much of an element in roleplay as everyone else is. We already do a lot against things that make you as a player uncomfortable, and you can always Ahelp and talk to us about it if you find that to be the case, but this idea plainly put is just bad and nothing more.

Reporting Personnel: Phillip De Vos Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Workplace Liaison, Private Military Contracting Group Game ID: cBF-dr7k Personnel Involved: - Laszlo Horvath, Security Officer (Offender) - TSU 932-7, Security Officer (Witness, Transcript Below) - Mahisa Quraishi, Security Officer (Witness, Transcript Below) Secondary Witnesses: N/A Real Time: 20th of September 2025, Midnight to 0100 CET Location of Incident: SCCV Horizon Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [ ] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [X] - Misconduct [X] - Defamation of the Company Overview of the Incident: Greetings colleagues! I present to you the following case of Misconduct and Defamation of the PMCG from a Security Officer. The Officer in questions would be 'Laszlo Horvath' working with us, the PMCG. As you will roughly see from the picture provided and statements of two fellow officers, the Officer in question has a habit of sticking labels to their gear. These labels are usually gross, outright offensive or just damaging to the image of the PMCG. I do not think there is much more need for saying something, the labels will speak for themselves. I find it gross and inappropriate to display these on corporate-issued gear while on-duty. Labels included, but are not limited to, quote; "I Kill People For A Living", "KORPODOG", "Aim Here!" end quote. This was recorded on the shift mentioned in this report, there's been other incidents on other shifts, reportedly. Submitted Evidence: Record, Officer Horvath Picture, Officer Horvath Transcript, TSU 932-7 Transcript, Mahisa Quraishi Would you like to be personally interviewed? [ ] - Yes [X] - No, only if strictly necessary. Given the evidence, it should not be. Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why? - There was a Chief Medical Officer, though this incident did not feel appropriate for them to handle. Actions taken: - None. Additional Notes: N/A

I do not have much to add but continue to stand with my decision. While the Thread does state that OOC suggestions are also welcome, I was approached by another user that saw your post as just an OOC meme post, which I have to agree with in that regard. Thus it’s not relevant to the thread in my eyes and doesn’t belong on it, there were plenty of others actually engaging with it. That’s all I’ll add, Bear can take his stance on my decision making from here.

It's intended that mercenaries / antagonists in general have a bit better gear (like the Heavy Armor set and 7.62 as a caliber), as they are (usually) at a very big disadvantage against security when it actually comes to fighting. It's supposed to put a bit more pressure onto security, who have a variety of very situational gear and in theory access to infinite heals through medical.

Hi. I got rid of the mirrored ban for you. Do not join using a VPN or a Virtual Machine, you will inevitably get caught in someone else's ban if you are unlucky.

I removed the mirrored ban, you can try joining now. Do not join the server with a VPN to play, you largely run at the risk of being caught in another player's ban depending on the Provider.

Hi. I’ll try to break this down although it’s really hard for me to understand how this is not obvious, I’ll do my best. You mentioned the lack of specifics, let me first of all quote out of our rules in regards to this; “Violence is expected in-game; this is SS13. However, avoid bringing up hateful or overly sexual topics in OOC channels.” While I will agree with you that this rule is very unspecific, it still applies here. Our rules are a general foundation of standards in the community that we uphold so we can ensure that everyone can play together without bother or exposure to things they should not be exposed to. Our rules cannot, and will not ever cover every edge case, which leaves a lot of room to argue sometimes, thus we tend to make decisions that may seem a bit less transparent at times. Regardless of that I think it’s fairly safe to say that it’s socially not normal nor acceptable to enter a public space, a public space where not everyone is an adult either, and talk about these things unprompted. Not in any case, ever, and I’ll defend this for as long as I’m a moderator here. This is not a cultural thing either, it’s simply a social standard in a majority if not all modern societies. We do not want you or anyone else to talk about these things here. Regardless of whether you agree, or not. Regardless of whether you consider it acceptable, or not. While these topics may be considered “okay” to talk about within your friend groups, you have to remember that while there may be friends of yours on the server too, it’s still a public space that is welcoming of everyone. Especially if talking in the OOC chat. Let me close this with the argument you made about these things being in a book about biology; Yes, they teach you these things at school (usually), that’s because the teacher in this case has the educational mission to prepare you for the future / your future life, where you may be confronted with such things. But they do not drag these things out of context and focus on teaching. I understand your argument, but I would say it does not at all apply here. I hope this explains our view on things, and I can almost guarantee you that our Modmin team will agree with all of this.

You asked to get weapons from the armoury to hunt down the antag, they did not do this. No. Once again, they did not. It was them ultimately managing to disarm the antag in a self-defense scenario, then arresting them. Which is totally fine. There were no weapons from the armoury involved like you wanted them.

Reporting Personnel: Akhtar Al-Zidan Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Scientist, NanoTrasen Game ID: cAM-dvfK Personnel Involved: - Hazel #S-H15.5055, Executive Officer - Primary Offender - Jamari Sauter, Chef/Cook - Primary Offender - Yasir Kra'jun, Security Officer - Primary Offender - Beau Cleeves, Wait Staff - Witness / Secondary Offender - Celeste Li-Hurong, Unknown - Witness Secondary Witnesses: - N/A Real Time: Around 0100 to 0230 CET Location of Incident: SCCV Horizon, Kitchen Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [X] - Neglect of Duty [X] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [ ] - Misconduct [X] - Racism Overview of the Incident: Around the noted time, a major incident in the form of targeted harassment unfolded. While trying to order a sandwich, a chef from Biesel, Hazel Executive Officer, Martian waiter, and Zhan neglected their duties and harassed him greatly. He was talking to the waiter, attempting to order a simple sandwich with meat in it, as he was getting rather hungry - this is his basic right as an employee of the ship. He was about to be charged for the sandwich when he clearly stated that the price was a ripoff, though he did not refuse to pay! Then, after stating that, the chef insisted on wasting his time, much rather than letting him pay, before denying him service completely. He called over the executive officer to clear the situation up. Upon the arrival of the executive officer, they swiftly cleared up the situation. He was going to get his sandwich; they handed him a card reader - he did not fully understand how to operate it and was asking for instructions when the waiter wanted to snatch his ID card to "do it for him" - he denied it! He then called over security. Security arrived and observed as he was trying to figure out the card reader. Fast-forward, security - without any input from either the chef or the executive - ordered him to leave! When he asked for confirmation, the aforementioned officer refused to say anything and asked for the chef's input afterward. The chef made racist remarks such as "Is this your first time out of a small Adhomian village?!" multiple times. Until finally, the executive officer jumped onto the track and joined the targeted harassment by ordering him out of the kitchen - for simply asking for instructions to operate a device and wanting a sandwich. This is outrageous! Submitted Evidence: - None. Would you like to be personally interviewed? [X] - Yes [ ] - No Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: - Yes, the Executive Officer, Hazel #S-H15.5055, who then jumped in on the targeted Harassment. Additional Notes: N/A

I've moved the topic into the General board for you since this is not a staff complaint and does not belong in that subforum. On the note of what you actually wrote: To answer this, no, you cannot blatantly do the job of security. And I can assure you, we do understand. You've been talked to by both me and another Modmin that round, the other Modmin being Jasorn, who told you that self-defense in any case is totally acceptable, but you are not to blatantly hunt down the antagonist(s). That's not okay. This is a very situational thing, which is why you should always Ahelp before doing anything. You did Ahelp and it was explained to you to only act in self defense, as the antag was not really escalating strongly at all, you were told to let the gimmick play out and if something happens to you that you can defend yourself.

Hello, I semi-regularly play security, and I can tell you what I think: Armor is good in its current state. No, heavy armor is not always the best case because whatever gimmicks an antagonist team decides on will usually also dictate their choice of weaponry. And you, as a security officer, the warden, or the head of security, can always make a judgment on what is best for the situation. I wore ballistic armor playing security recently when an officer point-blanked me with a burst rifle, and I got zero damage out of it. No, the specialized armor is not "useless" or offers barely any more protection.

I genuinely cannot tell if this is another attempt at baiting by you, or not. But let's assume you mean this. If we are going by your vague reasoning of "...they're the most likely to get exposed..." then we should make this entire server 18+ and have everyone provide identification at entrance, because if (a bad actor, community member or whoever not) talks about NSFW things or NSFW-leaning things - what here makes us more exposed to the content than anyone else that is also on the server? Your reasoning has zero foundation, really. Beyond that, I think I can confidently say all of the modmin team is at least 18 or above from interactions and their applications alone.

I unbanned you; try to join, please. No matter what you do, do not join using a mobile network with a VPN or over a virtual machine. Mobile network pools are usually very tight, and IPs are shared around a lot; that's how you've been caught in the ban.