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Server Moderator Application


Basic Information
Byond Account: Butterrobber202 
Character Name(s): 


AI Name(s): Praetorian
Discord username + tag:Butterrobber202#1542 

Age: 18
Timezone: CST
When are you on Aurora?: Afternoons mostly.

Experience
How long have you played SS13?: 5 years
How long have you played on Aurora: 4.3 years
How much do you know about SS13 (Baystation build) game mechanics?: everything but Atmospherics 
Do you have any experience moderating for an SS13 server?: I was a mod on Apollo for a short while
Have you read through the criteria thread; https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=4198 - and believe that you mark off all the criteria?: yes
Have you ever been banned, and if so, how long and why?: got permabanned for validing a traitor a long time ago, (2 years ago?)

Personality
Why do you play SS13?: I love Sci-Fi, I love the Corporation setting and lore, and I'm all about some 2D Games. I am all about playing a character and roleplaying them out in whatever crazy circumstances the station tends to throw our way.
Why do you play on Aurora?: Because Bay is the only other HRP option and I dislike MilSim/RP.
What do moderators do?: Moderators are both the enforcers and helping hands of the station, they provide help to confused players that don't understand one of SS13's complex systems, and lay down the hammer on those that break the server rules. 
What does it mean to be a moderator for our server?: The same as above, but you are enforcing a High Roleplay environment, so we don't end up with 4 Bob Rosses and Goku on the station. Not to mention your RP should be something that is either good or looked up too as a player put in a position of authority. 
Why do you want to be a moderator?: I want to give back to this fantastic community that has provided me endless hours of entertainment and fun, and I feel service is the best way to go about it. 
What qualities do you possess that would make you a good moderator?: I know most of SS13's mechanics like the back of my hand, I'm active unless I'm on an extended IRL break or trip, I am pretty good under pressure when I know I've got serious business going on.
How well do you handle stress, anger, or insults?: depends on the circumstance, if I'm just running around being an average joe I'll usually fire back with whatever I have loaded. But when in an enforcement position I usually exercise the silent treatment or deflect the insults away by attempting to get back on topic.

 

Anything Else You Want to Add:
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How well do you handle stress, anger, or insults?: depends on the circumstance, if I'm just running around being an average joe I'll usually fire back with whatever I have loaded.

This is my major concern with this app. You fire back often and hard. You also do your own fair bit of instigating in OOC and Dchat. We all are guilty of this, but I'm going to give you feedback similar to what I told Paradox: You are one of the more consistently abrasive and perhaps toxic people I've seen, and one among several names that led to me quitting the discord channels and my original mute on OOC. I had some faith in him to improve, but I can't say I feel the same for you at this time. You are very critical, and don't choose your words carefully, especially when it comes to antags trying new gimmicks and the like. You're not a great representative of this community, and I feel like that's a bad quality for a mod. I don't know that I can trust you when you say this:

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But when in an enforcement position I usually exercise the silent treatment or deflect the insults away by attempting to get back on topic.

Or that you're able to remain level-headed and impartial, based on past and current behavior.

I would love to be wrong, of course, and I'd like to see you chill out a lot. But right now I can't support this app for trial. I don't think you, at this time, would make a good moderator.

A -1 from me, I'm afraid. 

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@Doxxmedearly

 

yeah you make make some good points, I really do stir the pot sometimes, and l definitely accept you judgement that I can be abrasive. 

But like every human, I am capable of change. I fire hard and wrestle in the mud because I was just representing me and my views. But when it comes to being staff you are obviously viewed as a face of the community, and with that knowledge in mind, I am going to stick my nose in less people’s business. Because I would fell pretty sad if a mod started coming at me too. 

 

In anycase, that’s what the trial is all about, to see if players can handle it.

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In anycase, that’s what the trial is all about, to see if players can handle it.

I hope I'm misunderstanding this point - the point of the trial is to see if you're fit for the position and able to conduct yourself in a manner befitting staff, not to see if the players can handle your abrasive nature.

All I'll say is I hope you improve yourself and your conduct, especially in OOC channels. I don't have confidence that you can do so timely, but I hope I'm wrong as I have been before. 

If the staff team wishes to grant you a trial, then good luck. But I do not believe you deserve this chance until after you've changed your behavior.

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You belittled me in dchat over a VERY mundane thing, at ROUND end, and this isn't the first time I've seen you do this sort of thing in dchat. You're abrasive and down right rude in OOC. You're pretty far from mod material. Players don't need to get use to abrasive people as mods, nor do they need mods that are totally okay with just randomly belittling players in dchat like this. Strong -1.

Here's the pastbin to prove what I'm showing.

https://pastebin.com/fVdZRnS4

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@Doxxmedearly

sorry for the misunderstanding, when I said players I meant, as in, "players applying for staff". Not, "yeah the playerbase has to adapt to me."

 

@SatinsPristOTD yeah I owe you an apology for that. I remember that day pretty well for IRL stuff I'm not going into here. I was mad/bitter at the world and got on, saw you and just got angry for a reason that didn't even involve you. It was a bad decision. But I'd rather you have discussed it with me in PMs/made a player complaint instead of just grabbing the info and sitting on it. I can't really react to things not brought up. Regardless, if you still want a proper apology just hit me up on discord and its yours. 

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I didn't see the need in making a player complaint about it. See, unlike a lot of this playerbase, I don't usually CARE enough to make full on complaints if someone insults me or mocks me.

But that doesn't change the fact that I won't remember it if you apply for, what I see as, an important position in Aurora. Modding is a very stressful thing, and while it isn't as stressful as IRL, it can just be another thing to add to that list of BULLSHIT that happens on an already crappy day. If you do that in dchat after a stressful day, who's to say you won't do it as a mod... and do it in an ahelp towards someone that doesn't deserve it?

It shows you may not be able to handle stress. I get that life can be overwhelming. Things happen. Life happens, but our mod's know to not take it out on the playerbase. Our playerbase itself knows to not do that sort of thing.

Also, I appreciate the apology. I'm sorry that things are pretty crap some days. I hope it all gets better for you!

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3 hours ago, SatinsPristOTD said:

I didn't see the need in making a player complaint about it. See, unlike a lot of this playerbase, I don't usually CARE enough to make full on complaints if someone insults me or mocks me.

But that doesn't change the fact that I won't remember it if you apply for, what I see as, an important position in Aurora. Modding is a very stressful thing, and while it isn't as stressful as IRL, it can just be another thing to add to that list of BULLSHIT that happens on an already crappy day. If you do that in dchat after a stressful day, who's to say you won't do it as a mod... and do it in an ahelp towards someone that doesn't deserve it?

 It shows you may not be able to handle stress. I get that life can be overwhelming. Things happen. Life happens, but our mod's know to not take it out on the playerbase. Our playerbase itself knows to not do that sort of thing.

Also, I appreciate the apology. I'm sorry that things are pretty crap some days. I hope it all gets better for you!

I can see you point and I agree that modding can be stressful, but I'm confident enough that I'm going to be concerned enough about the position that I just won't get on if I'm have a bad enough day that I'm seething. I've recently had an incident outside of SS13/Aurora similar to this and a friend was kind enough to correct to me. 

The plan, in the event that I am accepted, is to avoid putting myself into situations where my own judgement is clouded by bias or emotion, which I want to say its likely encouraged by the staff team already.

Also, things did get better, thanks for your concern! 

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On 26/06/2019 at 17:39, Butterrobber202 said:

But like every human, I am capable of change.

Then change first, apply for mod second. Currently, you're a pretty rude person. You can't erase history if you make bad decisions - if you insult someone, you have insulted someone, no matter if you've changed or apologized later - ideally, as a moderator, you shouldn't do things that you'll need to apologize over. 

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IMO Butterrobber isn't rude.

 

Just someone that really won't things fly by him if they're targeted at him. 

But then again, also made some mistakes. 

Then again, some of us sort of fit into a role when we're shoved into it. So he might just be put in the mindset to realize if he fucks up or acts like a dickhead he's going to get removed from the staff team if he's placed into it. It's like that social experiment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment Not sure if this would apply, though. But just putting it out there.

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22 hours ago, Kryostro said:

Then again, some of us sort of fit into a role when we're shoved into it. So he might just be put in the mindset to realize if he fucks up or acts like a dickhead he's going to get removed from the staff team if he's placed into it.

Again, that's a bad mindset. What if he doesn't fit into the role? If he fucks up and is then removed from staff, a fuck up has still happened. Why must we be subjected to this as opposed to just not accepting him into the position?

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I've read this and the interview over and I like to say that I see the intentions of positivity in you. I've seen you be quite rude OOCly before, but I've also seen you get along with and joke about with quite a few members of the community. I think you have the ability to make the changes that the community would need to see from you to be a staff member and hope that you would do so. As such I give my own tentative +1. I would honestly love to see you trial and see what you can do regarding being staff, but I say so with the intent that your attitude is watched closely and is part of the scrutiny held against you. In any case, I wish you the best of luck.

+1 (a second time in a more visible place.)

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