Rename the Republic of Biesel to the Tau Ceti Republic, rename the BSL accent to "TCR"

[Scheveningen]

Justification: A multi-world republic should not be named after a single planet. At worst, they would do so after their throne star system, which all current worlds of the Republic currently exist in Tau Ceti according to the wiki (though I am being told Mictlan will be brought in fairly soon once it is reworked appropriately) seem to exist in Tau Ceti.

Additionally, a strictly "Biesellian" accent is extremely specific. One would think there would be a specific dialect relating to Tau Ceti Republic citizens rather than just being members of one planet's dialect.

Edited August 29, 2021 by Scheveningen

[Desven]

It's not uncommon for centralized places to have their name after their biggest city, or even almost synonymous. Besides New Gibson, which is kind of stale lore, nothing much is going on in Tau Ceti in terms of big planets.

It used to be called PUB, probably after republic too. I think BSL fits really good. The whole place is called Republic of Biesel, after all, and that's the flag of the republic.

[Scheveningen]

Only the factions on Adhomai follow the premise of a factional governance being named after the planet, this is the case where it is actually reasonable given the PRA no longer has total or even majority supremacy over Adhomai. The politics on Adhomai are complicated, but still mostly justify every faction appending "of Adhomai" after its governance type as a measure of their current aims and claims over the same world they occupy. While there are other Tajara colonies that exist, Hro'zamal is a developing colony controlled somewhat by the PRA yet suffers the issue of insurgents, and Gakal'zaal is recently liberated by a major command of the DPRA, while also having to deal with the issue of being a developing colony that suffered more changes in regime in fewer years than most factions in the lore (still believable). A faction's name is ultimately reflective of the current status quo and has implicit statements at their future ambitions. After the Alliance balkanized itself, almost all of the major human factions took pieces out of the Alliance border territories, including the so-called Republic of Biesel.

To broadcast your intent to defend a larger piece of territory than just one world is a bolder political statement that all types of government expect to make once they acquire the reach to be able to do so, one that expects you will defend that broader territory with means necessary. The rebranding would be far more appropriate than sticking to the status quo. It's also a sort of thing that would impact roleplay pretty significantly, since the Republic in the past has largely been handwaved as a joke state in terms of socioeconomic and other types of reach. Making it the Tau Ceti Republic would significantly expand its initial perception as a more powerful state in terms of a general sense of the term, as well as properly match exactly how much reach and power the Republic has right now, which is substantially more than they did previously, pre-KOTW.

Edited August 29, 2021 by Scheveningen

[The lancer]

People's accent doesn't really change within the span of a few months after being conquered or taken over by a different state, so I think the Biesel accent is accurate, same way we have New Gibson accent.

 

As for the Republic's name, I always thought it was named the Republic of Tau Ceti. Turns out it's not but it would make more sense to be named that.

[Faye <3]

i would really prefer this actually. i didn't actually know tau ceti was the system biesel was in (i thought it was the biesel system or something) until recent. i thought 'tau ceti' and 'the spur' were synonymous. the accents don't matter tho.

Edited August 29, 2021 by Faye <3

[Scheveningen]

I would rather avoid enabling accent bloat if there is not a distinguishable cultural/social difference between Gibsonites and Biesellians. There really isn't, which is why it wouldn't be a bad idea to merge Gibsonites into the new Republic's accent as well. Contrast Amodhans, Crevusians(?), and then the myriad of other ethnicities on Adhomai, there's a greater diversity due to a lack of nationalization on that planet.

I would prefer Tau Ceti Republic so it doesn't get mixed up with the People's Republics of Adhomai, since that governing prefix is often associated with relatively communist or left-wing regimes, which Tau Ceti's culture definitely is not.

[Carver]

Given Biesel is the crown jewel, and the history points to Biesel as the founding planet entirely responsible for there even being a Republic in the first place, I disagree heavily with renaming it. Doubly because Tau Ceti Republic just sounds like a generic, uninspired sci-fi name compared to sticking to the name of a cleanly fleshed out planet that has more written lore for it than nearly any other in the setting (perhaps barring Adhomai).

When people read 'Republic of Biesel', they wonder "What's Biesel?" and will end up learning about it. This is a good thing. It is the perfect planet for any beginner to base a character from, and it's capital of Mendell has nice little ties to so many other species that invite players to delve deeper into the setting.

[Mofo1995]

I think I'm all right with Biesel retaining its current national name. Though it has metamorphized from a solar-state to an interstellar republic, it is ultimately centered around Biesel. I am really flattered by what Carver had to input though, and it's a fresh perspective I don't think I've ever really considered. I've always felt and concerned myself that Biesel and the republic were underdeveloped as cultural locations outside of Mendell City, but recently the team as a whole did a great job expanding it imo. There are a lot of issues that could warrant some thought though, such as how all the new additions are represented in Biesel politics. Has the government grown dramatically in representatives? Or have local representatives been shaved away to make way for all the new disparate additions? It could be interesting to explore as a gradual IC development, though I wonder how much stomach the playerbase might have for... y'know... political lore.

[Desven]

10 hours ago, Carver said:

Given Biesel is the crown jewel, and the history points to Biesel as the founding planet entirely responsible for there even being a Republic in the first place, I disagree heavily with renaming it. Doubly because Tau Ceti Republic just sounds like a generic, uninspired sci-fi name compared to sticking to the name of a cleanly fleshed out planet that has more written lore for it than nearly any other in the setting (perhaps barring Adhomai).

When people read 'Republic of Biesel', they wonder "What's Biesel?" and will end up learning about it. This is a good thing. It is the perfect planet for any beginner to base a character from, and it's capital of Mendell has nice little ties to so many other species that invite players to delve deeper into the setting.

This is something I hadn't considered before. It's hard to escape the whole “Sol Republic/Alliance/democracy whatever” name, but next to that, Tau Ceti Republic sounds like one of the most generic sci-fi names. Tau Ceti is probably one of the most popular sci-fi places and Biesel keeps it fresh and the most unique. If Biesel is already somewhat generic (something we have been looking for change), Tau Ceti Republic would make it even more bland.

[Marlon P.]

Its not too unusualvto have a country named after one place.

Rome, Ottoman Empire, Venice, Jerusalem...

It isn't the most accomodating though, so i see people ICly mentioning this desire to rebrand. Itd be cool going either way! Tau Ceti still wouldn't be accomodating to Cetians outside tau ceti.... where does it end?! Lol