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Luna Fountain feedback pls. Break this porcelain bunny.

 

It's hard to criticize Luna as a character, because she's one of those characters who are seemingly defined by their relationship and takes every chance to abandon their department to be with their partner. Or worse, gets assigned to their partners department at an entry position just to be with them the whole time. A person alone does not act the same as when their love interest is present, so any chance at getting to know Luna ordinarily goes out the window. And her presence makes Roy extra volatile, prone to irrational violence and interference in matters that shouldn't ordinarily involve an engineer.


Anyway, I understand you do it because you enjoy each others roleplay and it causes 'drama' which drags in other players for roleplay sometimes, it just bugs me. Basically, Luna's not a character. She's an attachment to Roy.

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Luna Fountain feedback pls. Break this porcelain bunny.

 

It's hard to criticize Luna as a character, because she's one of those characters who are seemingly defined by their relationship and takes every chance to abandon their department to be with their partner. Or worse, gets assigned to their partners department at an entry position just to be with them the whole time. A person alone does not act the same as when their love interest is present, so any chance at getting to know Luna ordinarily goes out the window. And her presence makes Roy extra volatile, prone to irrational violence and interference in matters that shouldn't ordinarily involve an engineer.


Anyway, I understand you do it because you enjoy each others roleplay and it causes 'drama' which drags in other players for roleplay sometimes, it just bugs me. Basically, Luna's not a character. She's an attachment to Roy.

 

Luna is actually a well-developed character with a surprising backstory, and an ongoing growth in the station. It's not fair to dismiss someone's character as " seemingly defined by their relationship" just because they spent a lot of time with their (infamous) partner and not with your character. It's true, depending on not their partner is present in the shift, people will act differently in terms of who they get to spend their time with, but how is this a negative aspect in terms of character personalities? Crescentise is asking what people think of Luna, not what people think of her relationship with Roy.


Perhaps you have not been able to notice, but Roy is not around as often as he used to and if you do not get to interact with Luna during the times he is not around (times during which I've found out Luna spent as part of Engineering), your post seems like an attack on Crescentise's character due to your interaction together has not been favored by the game's infinitely possible relationship outcomes, which I think mimic life pretty well. Some people like Roy, some people hate him. Some people like Charlie Dove, Nasir Ha'kim, Jamison Stamos (just to name a few), get to know Luna better, some people don't. Wow, who could have guessed?


And what exactly is what "just bugs [you]"?

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Luna Fountain feedback pls. Break this porcelain bunny.

 

It's hard to criticize Luna as a character, because she's one of those characters who are seemingly defined by their relationship and takes every chance to abandon their department to be with their partner. Or worse, gets assigned to their partners department at an entry position just to be with them the whole time. A person alone does not act the same as when their love interest is present, so any chance at getting to know Luna ordinarily goes out the window. And her presence makes Roy extra volatile, prone to irrational violence and interference in matters that shouldn't ordinarily involve an engineer.


Anyway, I understand you do it because you enjoy each others roleplay and it causes 'drama' which drags in other players for roleplay sometimes, it just bugs me. Basically, Luna's not a character. She's an attachment to Roy.

 

Luna is actually a well-developed character with a surprising backstory, and an ongoing growth in the station. It's not fair to dismiss someone's character as " seemingly defined by their relationship" just because they spent a lot of time with their (infamous) partner and not with your character. It's true, depending on not their partner is present in the shift, people will act differently in terms of who they get to spend their time with, but how is this a negative aspect in terms of character personalities? Crescentise is asking what people think of Luna, not what people think of her relationship with Roy.


Perhaps you have not been able to notice, but Roy is not around as often as he used to and if you do not get to interact with Luna during the times he is not around (times during which I've found out Luna spent as part of Engineering), your post seems like an attack on Crescentise's character due to your interaction together has not been favored by the game's infinitely possible relationship outcomes, which I think mimic life pretty well. Some people like Roy, some people hate him. Some people like Charlie Dove, Nasir Ha'kim, Jamison Stamos (just to name a few), get to know Luna better, some people don't. Wow, who could have guessed?


And what exactly is what "just bugs [you]"?

 

This is passive-aggressiveness at it's finest, which I would assume is because your own character is being mentioned in slightly negative light.


I am in no place to speak much on either character, but I will state one thing. Both characters, from the (small) amount I have seen, seem to feed off each other. A give-and-take, if you will. While I am sure they both function perfectly well on their own, their personalities seem to benefit the most when in the company of the other. While this is not a bad thing, and does happen in reality, this is why I don't believe the feedback was an attack on the character, but more so that it was based on the personality seen the most.


You stated that the feed back was not supposed to be on what people thought of Luna's relationship, but the character itself. You also mentioned that the character and your own have been spending less time together. While this indeed could help somebody see a character for their own personality, you also have to realize after a while, a character may be more associated with the relationship, than the character itself. Possibly to Konflit, to review Luna's character, would also to review the relationship, and the way it effected the roleplay and character itself.


You're assuming this was intended as "this character is bad", which isn't exactly what was said.

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Most of what Konflict said about Roy does not affect me in the slightest. That's basically how Roy is, although I would disagree on the "irrational" part. I made him the way he is to amuse other players OOCly, however annoyed their characters might get ICly. I would say that while I do get annoyed by how Security treats him and other people during processing, I have come to accept and embrace his polarizing effect on the community.


I agree that they feed off each other, I do ask you to take a closer look at Konflict's final statement:


"Luna's not a character. She's an attachment to Roy."


How is that not a more negative comment than, "this character is bad"? That basically means, "Your character exists only to leech off the other," which goes against the give-and-take principle given by you, and that they can function on their own. We can clearly see the reaction a comment like that might evoke by looking at Cassie's post.

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Upon first seeing Luna she went out of her way to spark a conversation with my boyfriend. As she shuffled closer, coffee in hand, i assumed she was there to steal him a nurse's nurse, naive, flirtatious, just there to have fun, bad with emotions and pretends to be a cat sometimes, like what a girl dressing up for halloween would think nurses are like. I was pleasantly suprised that i was wrong in only one regardt.she wasn't nearly as flirtatious as i hoped thought she was going to be. And she's fun to talk to, being pretty chiper


I don't really get the whole "attachment to Roy" thing, i think there's a fleshed out character beyond that, and it totally doesn't strike a bit too close to home, condsidering my relationship with Stamos, no sir.


Times I've interacted with Luna were pretty good, i never thought she was out of character, and despite my character hating that she acts like an innocent bystander, doing pretty much nothing of consequence, i don't, it's consistent enough with her character

I rate her a not-Vivian-Rival/10 *proceeds to gush about how cool Vivian is and how much she owned Luna*

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Crescentise did say to break down the character. K0NFL1QT offered a valid and well-reasoned opinion about the character from his viewpoint. It could had been taken as advice on how to improve the quality of the character, but instead it was taken as an attack because K0NFL1QT only mentioned the negative aspect. Keep in mind, he said nothing to the effect that the character is horrible, more so that the character is lacking a certain air to them.

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I did welcome harsh opinions, so... thanks, QT. I'll try to use what you said for her own good. Though - not to rebuff your opinion - but there wasn't anything stopping you from getting to know her, at least to begin with. The most you did was criticise her for not being in medbay 24/7 with your self-experimenting geneticist Adam Evans. Because she's too sensitive, I imagine that'd make her avoid him from now on for fear of more criticism and essentially only show her negative aspects towards him.


Thanks, Johnny, too. Vivian indeed defibbed the crap out of her x')


Still up for whatever opinions people have~

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Luna Fountain feedback pls. Break this porcelain bunny.

Only comment I have, Because I don't make contact much, but Purple hair=Bad, This is just me of course, DOn't take it harshly I despise anyone with a Non-Natural coloured hairstyle.

Not everyone is an anime-esque or genetic cloning experiment. Some of my characters have dyed hair, like Camile Crafter. Their flavourtext usually shows things like "Their roots are visible, their original hair colour is light brown" or something. I usually keep unnatural dyed hair to the civilian sector because it makes sense.


So something to consider.

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In the light of my recent attempt at the Sue-ness test, which turned out to make her the anti-Sue bad sort of character...


Any thoughts/criticism on Daniela Baranova?

 

I love Danny. Like, she's developed and a bitch, being both great and terrible at her job all at once.


Hopefully I can get more RP with her


 

Not many people have given me feedback on Senri, which is a tad disappointing. Alas, alas.

Would someone care to?

Or Zhang Jie, my Captain?

Or Leo & Damian Del Prado?

 

From the small rp I've had with him, I've found him to be one of the most realistic characters I've met thus far. Like, I'm really impressed, IJ. Good work.

Edit: ahem, I mean Senri. Haven't had much to do with the others.

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Milo Hachert.


Begin.

 

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little griefer? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the NT Navy, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Syndicate, and I have over 300 confirmed green-text gets. I am trained in bucklecuff warfare and I’m the top Hoss in the entire NT Security forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in this sector, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Extranet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of metasecbuddies across the SS13 community and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can robust you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my pepperspray. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Admin Armory and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the server, you little griffon. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn assistant. I will shit cuffs all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, shitboot.

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Daniela Baranova reminded me of a psychologist I once had, who talked to you like a friend and not someone you throw medications to. She always seems to evaluate every aspect, picking at things. She's also fun to drink with at the bar too (and I need to keep my promise on the next round). Though, sometimes, she shows that even she can lose her nerve, when you expect psychologists have their life together from studying psychology. It's amusing.


Senri Ishikawa is a morgue hanger. He smokes a lot, is rather depressed, and what I think of a middle aged doctor who wasted his life on his job. But because of that, his insights on life is amusing, always joking. They say that the depressed has great humour to cover the pain inside, and Senri I think accumulated a lot of pain with the disappearance of his wife and Chenmo dropping him for Winston. He even has a rival because of that.


Atalanta Cascadia, from what I heard over command, seems to be a good Chief Engineer. A talkative CE is a rare one, and that one time you helped mining get their shuttle working again was awesome. Most CEs usually stay in their departments, so that was a nice sight to see too.


Milo Hachert is a great character, his accent is amusing, and he's very tactile. During that nuke round, him telling us his plans and him coordinating with me with medical issues were fantastic. He's a dick, but he isn't a bad dick.




Samantha is still on the chopping block. Butcher away.

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Anybody have any thoughts/complaints about any of mine?

Miraj Zi'Ad

She needs to be played more, so we can totally do that "Dyed our fur, oh god why did we do this." RP.

 

Sairis Helosi

 

"He warned her command would suck. He warrrned her!"

 

Ziva Mo'Tak

 

Had lots of fun interactions, want more. Get back home so we can have more Ziva :I

 

Katana (Alpha/Charlie/Delta)

A very interesting, unique meta-character idea that doesn't break immersion. My only issue is it's tricky to know what form they are in, even with the extra designations.

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Anybody have any thoughts/complaints about any of mine?

Miraj Zi'Ad

She needs to be played more, so we can totally do that "Dyed our fur, oh god why did we do this." RP.

 

For the Dakka, of course!


But yes. Pink Tajarran EMTs going WEEEE WOOOO WEEEE WOOOO would be glorious.

 

Sairis Helosi

 

"He warned her command would suck. He warrrned her!"

 

She went back to running cargo as a Quartermaster for a few shifts after that... xD

 

Ziva Mo'Tak

 

Had lots of fun interactions, want more. Get back home so we can have more Ziva :I

 

Still my favorite character to play, and I plan to get more out of her when I do get home :D

 

Katana (Alpha/Charlie/Delta)

A very interesting, unique meta-character idea that doesn't break immersion. My only issue is it's tricky to know what form they are in, even with the extra designations.



Second favorite character! I need to figure out a better way of helping people identify which Katana is there, although maybe the confusion can be a good thing. Just from her voice on radio, you wouldn't be able to tell after all, since it's the same voice regardless of chassis. But, just for reference:

Alpha - Station AI

Bravo - Android/robot (No longer in use, in favor of the IPC chassis)

Charlie - NT Contract IPC

Delta - NT Contract pAI

Echo 1 - IOV Rankov pAI

Echo 2 - IOV Rankov IPC

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Samantha is still on the chopping block. Butcher away.

Samantha is an example of a competent medical member (heh, member). Puts work before play for the most part, from what I've seen. I like how the speech impediment is consistent all the time, and isn't dismissed despite that she's undergoing speech therapy. I think I've noticed an improvement over time, which takes dedication. Also, she's as neurotic as a Sim in a dirty house. But despite this, she actually makes an effort to talk to Senri, despite his anti-social behavior at times, which is always nice.

Any thoughts/criticism on Daniela Baranova?

I personally think that Daniela is one of the best consistent psychiatrists we've had on Aurora. Not only does she actually sit down and have long winded conversations with her patients (I've had two go through this, myself), she makes an effort to break through the apprehension some people may feel, and actually asks them the questions that need to be asked, without being too overbearing or being smart-aleck. And as previously stated, she is not some psychological immortal, and is prone to have issues of her own, which makes her human.

Something something Milo Hachert.

I'm very glad Milo is back, it's nice to have a Head of Security that I can trust based off of previous experience working with them and knowing that they are a competent leader who is not afraid to bend the rules a bit, without going too overboard--so long as the situation calls for it. Yeah, he can be a dick, but if you follow his orders without being illogical and a stupid mongoloid about it, he is at heart not the biggest asshole. Also, as we saw before, he is prone to making decisions that aren't the best, and may sometimes lose the whole....Southern gentleman thing he's got going on (such as when he took a tap at Reini's heiney).

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