Marlon P.

I remember this convo and i said id address it actually. At the convo time was looking back at old DMs from a staffer to get some relevant info on the topic and saw that the 2 images of a punctured foot and two ppl banging are still in the DM history, not even half a scroll wheel up. They never removed the offensive images. Seeing the graphic images upset me and i and i did derail. I apologize. I hope this is understandable. I was am and will point out the bizarre intensity people have for this type of spaceship unathi have. For years ive seen ppl randomly bring up the ship without prompting sometimes and get worked up about it and make wild claims that they walk back when i ask about it. Like there's genuine misinformation about this thing. It's so strange. The @ at the end is me poking fun at waking up four days in a row to @'s with lore facts about some misconceptionsi had. I guess the joke bombed. The logs about us talking and you saying "which was bullshit" have been litigated already. Nothing to add. Actually i want to ask you @Roostercat. OP alleges i made the claim that there's hostility towards me and that i have no evidence. Is a post alleging a concerted effort to disparge me evidence that the vibes i was getting had/have a factual basis? I guess its asking to reconsider the relevancy of the forum post i mentioned. It is a fact that it did, as i have no reason to believe that iirc three people with no connection to each other individually lied to me about having to retcon characters out due to the change, or voluntarily retiring them because they did not want to retcon. I don't talk to two of them anymore (no beef) and I don't think plays ss13 anymore. I was countering the offhand dismissiveness saying no one lost any chars ever. Anyway i support the cloning removal. Aurora never really wanted to lean in on it, so it works better for what the loredevs and team want. It's just balancing the consequences towards people it deleted vs the benefits. That's not toxic imo, it's just cost/benefit analysis. For my warned post, it was aggro definately. I don't remember if thats the one i went back to edit after posting, before a warning, bcuz I decided it was more aggro than i intended it to be. I have a more recent thread breaking down the problem of the whitelist standards. I actually forgot i made this post and i see I still use the same points. It really is how something is said... For my complaint with logs... i don't know. Isn't this complaint also digging up old stuff? It doesn't make that or this complaint less valid i think. I made the complaint cuz i come back and see people i don't know or barely remember making rude comments about me years after i left in ways I felt violated rule 2. I wanted them to stop. It doesn't feel like they stopped, since i still have to keep blocking them... I don't know what other alternative i have if not making complaints on people i find to be breaking rules in order to ask staff to litigate misbehavior. What should I do when i feel someone is treating me in ways that break the rules?

I get you roostercat. You're right. I'll answer questions then, otherwise I don't think I have anything more to add.

The actions you say i should take -- constantly making public complaints and throwing out logs in public whenever i feel slighted - seem a lot more toxic than how i already handle it. So i won't be doing that unless asked by a handling admin.

I'm not ignoring them. You posted two years worth of logs. Ill circle back if i miss anything and don't forget. Remind me if i dont address something again. i dont agree anything was bad faith nor derailing. I said biplane was being mean so i blocked him. He basically said "you dont even play so you don't get an opinion." I still hold the opinion that events are bloody. It's just a fact of things. Belittling me by gatekeeping is rude. So i made clear i blocked them so they wouldn't waste their time continuing the conversation with me since i wouldn't see it. I dont think i ran around claiming people were harrassing me. Harrassment isnt being rude. Even breaking rule 2 isnt Harrassment inherently, iirc. Its Harrassment if they go out if their way to keep @'ing me or something. Like that person i player-complained did + more that they did. I don't think i need to publically post in my application thread logs and evidence of feeling unwelcome by the team. I guess i could post that image of one of your former devs openly saying your entire team is warned to not talk to me and in that same post insulting me. Do you want me to do that here? What would it accomplish? It's already been resolved by admins. I wasn't toxic for saying i felt i was facing abusive behavior.

I'm using the storied to show the behavior from your team towards me. You + others violated rule 2 towards me. I do my best to remain civil. I'm not going to litigate in this complaint all the situations where I've felt slighted or mistreated. Im not interested in digging up logs over years of time for complaint threads unless asked by the handler. If something got bad enough I DM a staff member. If it's recurring, i make a complaint on the forums. I've sent complaints to admins in DMs then forgot about whatever it was when it was handled/addressed. You aren't obligated to me justifying my feelings. The admin im talking to is though. I obviously wouldn't like being called abusive but it's not up to me. I have sat down with three people who said i was abusive to and i said they were abusive to me during the harrassment era, and we hashed out how we were bringing each other down and became either friends outside aurora or came on friendly terms. So I've had that accusation before and have experiences with it at all angles. It's a serious one. I still stand by it from that complaint, in which the person did get punished for violating the rules. Abuse isnt just "being mean" for example. Blocking me is fine with me, since there are other admins to bring issues to. If we dont get along then we dont get along. As for saying this isnt a friendly enviroment i mean... this thread. And a staffer saying staff are warned to ignore me. And being rude. Lol. I cant know a mans intentions, but i will say this feels retaliatory. You have logs to specific conversations going back to three years, but waited until after I had a staff complaint against you to post them all. This is after you've gotten aggro towards me on discord -- "which was bullshit" -- and I did bring up the periodic aggro to an admin but never really took action until the strike, since it seemed rude but not rulebreaking I know the complaint is about my behavior. I'm asking what about my behavior should change when i get into these situations. For example, what should i do when you call my work bullshit and i want to disagree? How do i respond to staff members saying they tell everyone I'm an asshole, and encouraging lore staff to intentionally ignore me? How can i possibly have 2 sided civil conversations when me even playing the game is seen by you + others as simply a conspiracy by me to win arguments? I genuinely don't understand.

This is the best change suggested. That freedom gives us the choice of letting them remember without forcing my hand. My only small concern is if during the delicate dance of grab-drain-release they pop off before i finish typing message about their memory. Is it possible to toggle between a custom message, default message, and allowing memory? 3 states.

I like the replies of op. I got my answer! +1 again. They're great for the team.

By 2019 i was being sent porn and gore pictures by people in staff, and a group of ppl were in secret chats someone showed me talking about stabbing effigies of me and saying absolutely horrible things and coordinating harassment etc etc. I was having a bad time and was very abrasive as a product of that behavior towards me. Seeing i was being an ass is part of the reason i left. And i came back when a large part of that harrassment campaign got banned. The person that sent me those pictures is still on staff but they apologized and haven't done anything like it again so I've got no beef other than not wanting to talk to them. I again bring these up to contextualize why i was so stand-offish. The person I complained against was engaging in bullying and abusive brhavior. I stand by that. It's not toxic to make the claim that i am being bullied and feel abused. I don't run around making that accusation. I think I've pointed out to someone once they were using the same language as the harrassers did back in 2019 and that person stopped doing it so i had no more beef. That complaint came about when the behavior got so bad i wanted it addressed by staff. Earlier today someone ive never met posted a now-deleted post in response to me asking a loredeputy applicant about some beef it feels like we have. that former lore stafferbsaid new lore staff hired are warned about me, to "avoid having the displeasure of talking to me." And the former lorestaffer made wild statements about my person. I didn't violate any rules when asking the OP about beef, but that former loredev did. They even said I'm only playing the game again because i got "called out" about playtime. Like how do i engage with that? Damned if i do play damned if i dont play. Its automatically me being insidious and conspiring against my so-called enemies' future arguments. You call my past work bullshit and you striked against me for saying it was your opinion. It didn't violate any rules, even though I will say you definately do get a rise out of me sometimes when you talk about my stuff in rude ways. I don't having staffers call my work 'bullshit'. Neither do/should you or anyone. Your strike was overturned. I can't prove or disprove i misread a series of discord messages. Not sure what to say about that. I do have criticisms about lore stuff. How should i disagree about the direction of things? I try to form my thoughts on the discord, hear what ppl say, then post a big thread about what i think should be changed. It seems like with staff members saying how new hires are warned about me and my evils, that when i make statements intended to be neutral its assumed im trying to be a massive prick. Then when I'm responded to in a way that annoys me, I get annoyed right back, and the logs look really unflattering when put back to back. How do I address and resolve these situations? Is everything here entirely no ones fault but my own?

Matt goes in 11/10 bare knuckle brawling on lore topics but never in demeaning or rulebreaking ways. He's more than willing to hear someone out. I've left enough whiney forum posts directed at him to see that. He's also pretty smart and knows how to organize given his time on the admin/whitelist team. I want to ask if you find the scope and number of human factions to be an issue? Theres a LOT. But in any case of an answer, +1

Around five years ago i slighted you in a conversation and for all these years you've held onto the logs to use in my own application disparging me only a few months ago; and for the sake of not engaging I've had to repeatedly keep you behind extended blocks on the discord because you attempt to talk me in conversations in a really demeaning way, sometimes even calling me "Jackboot" - a years old handle - despite how confusing it is. So im concerned this kind of behavior will get into the lore team where you write someone off for a snide remark or something. If I'm singularly the problem and youre super polite to everyone else then that's fine we can stay on opposite sides of a block and go on with our lives, but being a lore deputy you and me will probably have to talk sometimes when i submit stuff for humanity or talk/ask about human lore in a way that grts you involved. How can we do that?

Will you have more rp than if youre dead?

What would incentivize me to not drain everyone I grab completely dry to kill them? Vampires and borers are the only antag types that are incentivized to keep their victims alive. I catch and release. WIth this change I'd have to just catch and kill.

Reducing glove clutter would be good. But not shoes. Unathi have big claws on their feets. +1/2

This is still so awful. I'm playing again and had to rip all the implants out of my unathi. The only other things you take that do such harm to you is hard drugs. There's no way these people have a functional society with how their implants debilitate them. This needs to change pretty bad.

Nothing more to add; thank you.

Changes to psionic availability for the two spells can be implemented immediately. Your response is familiar to me -- i always say don't let perfect be the enemy of progress! It was already added like you said -- inherited as imperfect

Edit: This suggestion has been withdrawn.

Im fine with the force rp of being told there's something smelly near me. Like honestly. It's fine. You'll make it through.

It's fun! We should do it for more stuff. It's very cute and harmless.

I played another server awhile ago that was lowpop all the time and the blob was the worst. I can sympathize eith the frustration. It's so tedious! And you cant ignore it behind firelocks because it can destroy the entire z-level if it starts overwhelming the crew due to Lanchesters Laws.

Its canned food; hows that niche? Anyway +1 cute item

This would make it safer for antags and victims to interact given the antags have more control over the sitch (situation) so this could see more 'catch-&-release' sitches (situations) for vamps.

I'm making some burgers at home.

I dont think matt should have been talked down to & the term for roma people is considered a slur by most people these days. No more bad vibes! I still stick to what i said in my way; the policies or realities of any nation or concept on earth do not hold sway over whatever socioeconomic conditions are for this fictional scifi setting.