Owen

First, I must apologize for my delayed response. I have been traveling for the past several days and am just now settling in and finding time to properly write a response. Right, so, thanks for the detailed appeal/complaint. I get that you feel the ban was based on a misreading of your intentions, so I want to address this before reviewing staff make their call. The ban wasn't about any single comment or getting terminology wrong but instead was made based off of, in my judgment, a pattern going back to the first of your strikes in October 2025 which centers on, at minimum, poor judgment on your behalf in determining what is or is not appropriate to discuss on the Discord. So, I don't necessarily see that any one explanation fully accounts for this. I'll let the reviewing staff look at the prior strikes on their own merits rather than relitigating them here, but I do want to walk through the pieces that were directly relevant for the ban. On the terminology dispute: honestly, whether you said 'Third Way' or 'Third Position' isn't really what is at stake here. The issue is the framing around those terms and the broader conversation that they are appearing in -- no one in that conversation, if they were familiar with either of the terms, would have confused you for talking about Bill Clinton-era politics when you said Third Way. Any, additionally, the terms are used rather interchangeably on the colloqiual level, even within political science in my experience, but that is beside the point. What stood out to me though, which is what prompted the ban, is that you were claiming that they were 'not even fascist' with something that was entirely unprompted, in a channel where everyone else wa pretty straightforwardly (and rightfully) calling the group fascist and genocidal. It was with that framing, combined with everything else, that raised flags for me. Reviewing staff can weigh in on this themselves. You are, nonetheless, still ultimately responsible for what you post. The original 4chan post was, as one would expect, rife with racial slurs and is genuinely like... a gross image to look at. Given that Rooster could not prove whether or not you know of the origin, it was left as a strike -- but even then, he emphasized that this was toeing the line. And very much so. So, I am not sure what else you would expect us to take from this. Genuinely, even if this is an ironic statement... It is simply, in my view, not something that you need to/should be posting. Again, up to reviewing staff to decide, but I still think that this is relevant in the ban. On your argument that detailed knowledge of fascist ideology proves you're opposed to it rather than sympathetic to it: that's a reasonable point in principle, and I am not going to claim that researching something means you support it. The issue isn't the knowledge itself. Being specific and intellectually engaged in something that you have an interest in. But the way you discuss such things reads to me as apologetics, and it is difficult for me to read otherwise. This is all being decided in the context where, as far as I am concerned, you've been warned twice for adjacent posting. At the very least, these repeatedly demonstrated poor judgment about what constitutes an appropriate conversation to have here. I also want to gently say, and I don't mean this to be dismissive, but a staff complaint forum for an SS13 community probably isn't the right venue for citations from Hannah Arendt, Frank S. Meyer, and other academic literature. I can appreciate the impulse, and it is clear that, if you've read these authors, then you're familiar with the topic, but I do not believe that this changes the substance of what is being reviewed here. And it will, inevitably, make this harder to parse for people. The question reviewing staff are looking at is pretty straightforward: does the pattern of behavior in this community warrant the ban that was issued? To be clear, the ban is about a pattern of conduct in this community that I did not think another warning was going to fix. I'll leave the final call the staff who review.

Changed Head of Personnel to Executive Officer, added Operations Manager. Overall updated the species and command jobs section

As Alberyk has since retired, I'll be processing this appeal. Unbanned

Locking and archiving.

Yeah sure, it's been a while. Read the rules before you join another round. Unbanned.

In order to have your accounts transferred (easily at least, afaik), you need to have not joined the server with your new account yet. @Arrow768 has already been notified and will be able to make the necessary changes.

@zha everything broken and I will be handling this complaint.

turns out it was in the medical cabinet the whole time

Interview: https://pastebin.com/s1E1LkMN

😔 good luck soldier

Accepted

On trial until 8 September 2025.

Accepted

On trial until 27 August 2025

This could be neat to give some more stuff to do with vending machines. And as for taking money from them, as it stands now, any transaction at a vendor automatically is added to a specific vending machine account that the captain and XO can see. Could be neat to have that changed though where janitors and/or ops needs to come by and restock and put turn the money in somewhere (to the XO/OM/etc.) or potentially take the money for themself.

I can't speak to the exact wording, since that is more in CCIA's wheelhouse, but I'd support something to this effect. Seems entirely harmless, since, yeah.... we just sorta dump 'em and forget 'em.

You were not banned for this, you were not given a warning for this, you were not given a note. You were not even bwoinked about this. You were just told to knock it off in OOC, as your logs reveal. There was nothing hostile about this either, though you still apparently do not understand that it is not appropriate to be talking about tajara genitalia in OOC (regardless of the history of the server). You were told to knock it off and then seemingly left acting like I was going to ban you for this if you stayed any longer. I am not sure what you expect to be done here. There is no world where you're going to be allowed to discuss genitalia or sexual topics in OOC. This is not an 18+ server, and tajara sex is certainly an 18+ topic. I've got nothing else to say here until the handling staff members take the complaint.

Hello, thank you for applying. Unfortunately, we will be denying your application at this time. Given the prior history as you've stated, and lack of significant playtime recently, we'd like to see some more consistent play on the characters you've listed before reapplying.

A completely sensible idea. Nothing wrong with this at all. I’m also surprised that it isn’t already included.

Accepted

On trial through 12 July 2025. During this time, try to play your command character as much as you are able to to gather feedback here. Remember, you can advertise your app in OOC once per round to gather more feedback. If you have any questions feel free to reach out to me (Owen2139) or any of the other Command WL team members over Discord. Good luck!

Accepted

I think it would be very nice if we added an account console (the thing that lets you access the bank records) back to the captain's office. There is one in the XO's office, and the captain used to have one, but it disappeared several remaps ago. A simple quality of life thing for captains rather than having to go to the XO's office to check the account records when it is needed. In a similar vein, adding at least one ATM to the inside of the bridge (if not in both the XO and captain's offices) would be very helpful in transferring money between accounts. As it stands now, you've gotta go out of the bridge and find an ATM to make any transfers between accounts. Time consuming!

I will be handling this with @maxspells and @Triogenix. We'll try to get to this later today. In the meantime, @Noble Row please go ahead and post your side of things.

On trial until 3 April 2025. Feel free to advertise your application once per round to gather feedback.