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This suggestion has my support.

We're discussing this among staff presently, though I have a few concerns. Off the bat, I can see there'll be issues when it comes to accounting all the outlying factors out there. Fowl mentioned it in his post. Not all form of randomness is really sane or even "good". How is your system of randomness going to be implemented?

We're discussing this among staff, but as it stands, what Skull said is a major point here.

We're discussing this among the team. Though, I highly doubt we're going to make it an immune zone, but we are exploring the notion of disallowing transfer shuttles to be artificially delayed either administratively or mechanically.

I think this is already the case? Perhaps not the specifics but rather that a limitation does exist.

No hard feelings I believe. Just in the future, if humor you dislike happens, tell them to stop. Failing that report them. If the two people you cited continue it, inform staff as they've been mentioned in this complaint. Deeming this resolved. Locking and archiving.

If you have further testimony that is not just 2nd hand info, go for it.

I feel Detective job isn't suitable for Dionae as it requires a certain element when questioning people and deductive reasoning. Humans, Unathi, Skrell and Tajara onboard have the ability to consider the "human" element in crimes and interrogation which I'm not 100% positive that Dionae can, though do feel free to correct me on this. And before people bring up IPC's. They can be specialized in their production and programming to pick up the same cues the other races I cited before. Though if this as it stands does get pushed forward, this would also mean that Dionae that join as cadet just to tag around with Officers would be subject to a specie policy violation. How would you as the Dionae lore developer want this enforced? Just from our end? Yours? Both?

Time passed. Locking and archiving.

Took a while, there really wasn't much here in terms of damning evidence. Just a few cut out logs without much context that I needed to figure out myself. I'll start with the verdict. I do not find [mention]nursiekitty[/mention] to have done any major wrong doing in this case. While I won't deny that their humor can at times be "heavy", it's never been out of malice. They're an understanding person where if you tell them to stop, they will. They've been an administrator longer than I've been a member of staff, so if they were toxic and belligerent to the community at large, I'm 100% positive they would not be a staff member for as long as they are right now, two years and a month actually. This verdict was also reached by checking your discord message history, went as far back as February actually. The only messages I see that show you in some shape, way or form to be displeased towards this type of humor was only on the same day in which this complaint was put up. It's also my opinion after reviewing these messages personally and what's been posted here is that through some of your comments, jokes and actions, true or not, has developed this aura pertaining to your character. Which in addition to how you responded to it, made it seem to even me for a while that you were in on the joke, until a few discord comments were made by yourself, to which [mention]DatBerry[/mention] spoke to you and asked that you do report instances of harassment among another thing. This is the only instance involving staff and yourself about any harassment and it was us speaking to you first. I asked the team and the majority which replied to me stated that they've never had any of this reported to them, though do correct me with a name if I'm wrong about this. So I'm going to address a few points now written here. [mention]LiliumArgentium[/mention] This is in-character, I addressed this already. Their status as an administrator matter nothing towards the Incident Report processing, which wasn't actually cited by their character. [mention]LiliumArgentium[/mention] The fact you've never seen it doesn't mean it never happens. This seems more of an opinion based on limited observation instead of a fact or a viable testimony. [mention]K0NFL1QT[/mention] A lot of issues with this statement. It's not documented harassment. The only time we were marginally introduced to the fact this was not just humor including [mention]LiliumArgentium[/mention] is when they said the following in main discord, which Berry spoke to them about it. "I'm thinking about leaving Aurora." Not a lot of us are aware of this. This complaint brought it to light. No, this is not a clear case of lending power. This is a case of miscommunication. It's actually quite rude to call someone out for abuse like this with minimal to no evidence. [mention]LiliumArgentium[/mention] I don't think you made clear until this Sunday/Monday. We're not omnipotent. Even if you made off handed comments in the main discord about being annoyed, it's not something that we will always notice. People idly complain a lot and most of it aren't really things that matter. So, to reiterate my verdict point by point. I don't believe [mention]nursiekitty[/mention] to be using their position as administrator to abuse [mention]LiliumArgentium[/mention]. Based on actions done and said by yourself, [mention]LiliumArgentium[/mention], you gave an impression of what your character is which people have taken as a humor, something my search has led me to believe you never directly called out or told others to stop. You've also made minimal effort to report these harassment until now. It takes very little to copy logs and to send it to a staff member to handle. Based on this complaint, [mention]nursiekitty[/mention] understands that this humor is not something you like and will refrain from it. Though note that feedback and humor are exclusive. Everyone receives character feedback, it's only an issue if delivered improperly. I'm also going to mention [mention]SovietCyanide[/mention] and [mention]sdtwbaj[/mention] as they were mentioned to be harassing you.

Support this. Alternatively a load out option.

PROBABILITY S EXTENDED 3 PROBABILITY S MALFUNCTION 3 PROBABILITY S MERCENARY 3 PROBABILITY S WIZARD 3 PROBABILITY S CHANGELING 4 PROBABILITY S CULT 3 PROBABILITY S AUTOTRAITOR 9 PROBABILITY S VAMPIRE 4 PROBABILITY S HEIST 4 PROBABILITY S REVOLUTION 3 PROBABILITY S NINJA 3 PROBABILITY S CONFLUX 1 PROBABILITY S CROSSFIRE 1 PROBABILITY S UPRISING 1 PROBABILITY S VISITORS 2 PROBABILITY S INTRIGUE 2 PROBABILITY S SIEGE 1 PROBABILITY S INFILTRATION 2 PROBABILITY S FEEDING 1 PROBABILITY S VEILPARTY 2 This should be it modified. Raised autotraitor, lowered cult, wizard and rev. I'll keep the thread open for a while as this is also a test and is very trivial for us to actually change.

I'll rework the probabilities. It's been on my agenda. I've wanted less cult and rev, more autotraitor.

I'm not trying to contradict you. I'm only saying that context of rounds matter, there are times when it's fine and times when it is not. Covering an area with a rule protecting it form logical progression of antagonistic escalation is not something I'm fond of.

It boils down to the round really. Transfer shuttle is called as Nar'sie is summoned. Can't expect them to really just ignore everyone in the shuttle.

Not holy ground per say. It's just that if the server votes for a crew transfer, then it means they want the round to end. So players shouldn't delay the round beyond reason. Transfer shuttles can have conflict.

Two dismissals. Locking and archiving.

Deeming this implemented. Locking and archiving.

Staff both IC'ly and OOC'ly handle rounds lasting too long without any good reason to it. Voting for dismissal.

Supporting this notion. Voting for dismissal.

The trouble with this will be the numerous situations of, "I was already setting up to blow the shuttle anyways, and now I can't because someone triggered a transfer vote right as I was doing my thing. :ree:" Like, say during autotater rounds. I don't think we should completely treat the transfer shuttle as some holy ground. And people that only decide to do anything when the round end don't get permission to start havoc just because. But assuming there's proper build up where they hold the shuttle from the crew and demand nobody boards but people board anyway in which they detonate their explosive, destroying the shuttle. I don't think this is an issue if the rules are adhered to. There is an issue if a crew transfer is held up for 10-20 minutes when people voted for the round to end. This is what I'm trying to differentiate it. A few examples to illustrate my point. I've been trying to steal from the crew to no success, so I'll ransom their ride home. If they refuse, they can't board or I'll blow it up. Allowed. A crew transfer was voted but we're having an emergency. I'm going to wait for 10 minutes longer by holding the shuttle. Not allowed. Code red forbids transfer shuttles and if it's an emergency, it should be code red. I'm a loyalist. I'm going to hold the voted crew transfer until I kill all hostiles. Not allowed. My gimmick isn't over. I'm going to hold the voted crew transfer so I can finish it up, removing access from everyone until I'm done. Not allowed.

The complaint is being retained until I make a verdict or the two of you come to an agreement. I just want the player harassment issue dealt with as well. Edit: Just to make it clear. I'm taking this complaint.

Neither are presently staff members. Anyway, what I need you to do is send me a private forum PM listing the people harassing you, include evidence too. This is something you really should have reported at the time. We will look into this independently from the complaint as I won't want to mix things up.

I'll remind both [mention]Scheveningen[/mention] and [mention]K0NFL1QT[/mention] that this complaint is not addressed to them and that their involvement here should be limited to the rule itself. As for [mention]LiliumArgentium[/mention], have you reported these offenders? From my point of view, I've seen you speak of harassment and I believe we did send someone to speak to you about it once. I've yet to see you take the initiative to report this issue as a whole. If all your claims are true about Nursie, then there is undoubtedly more players that have done this as well. Yet not a single name comes to mind in recent memory of a person that has actually done this deed to you. Edit: You posted as I posted. So I'll go over a thing from your post. They're on hot water for a reason. Report them. It could be as trivial as telling them "They don't like it, stop."

Now, don't take this as me invalidating your complaint, but a few things. First. I don't think there's an issue with a character threatening administrative action in the form of IR's. They are a tool to further a narrative and showcase the importance of consistency in our setting. I also fully trust [mention]Synnono[/mention] to be impartial in the handling of all cases as CCIA lead. So the position of admin is of no relevance when an IR is placed. Moving on, I'd like you to cite me examples, logs, any form of evidence really. Now I'm not saying your claims is false. The issue here is you are telling us a car is speeding without telling us a time and place. So the car may very well be speeding but we'd be hard pushed to find it if we don't know where to start.