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Well, the wiki page didn't answer this, so here goes a question. Are they high-tech high-tech, or high-tech scrappers? The difference would be Skrell versus Unathi in terms of regular technology. Or, if you want to use popular culture, think Stark's Ironman versus that electric whip guy from Ironman 2 (Ivan or some shit, apparently).

Why I ask is this: the production of high tech equipment and devices has a lot of prerequisites to it, in terms of social capability and economic capability. I severely doubt that, what amounts to an underground group, would be able to acquire all of those prerequisites when they're being chased after by their brothers, the Hegemony. And no, going off with your migratory fleet doesn't really help either, specially not if you're only now attempting to get talking with other people. The process takes a looong while. This is all to say, they would be, in my opinion, more fit to be seen as high-tech scrappers: making their inventions, though genius they may be, with what they can scavenge, reuse, steal, buy for cheap.

Is my conjecture above correct? If yes, how are we reflecting this in mechanics? It'd be pretty cool to see some of their internal organs replaced with half-functioning DIY solutions, like a power cell lodged within a heart or some shit.

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A concern to levy, not that anything I have to say is important; the removal of shell IPCs and zero-consequence MMI brained IPCs (largely in combination with each other) was removed less so for its issues of transhumanist themes as much as it was essentially for the issue of the true immortality such comforts provided, as MMIs even now can almost indefinitely preserve a brain, and if the shell is destroyed you just throw the MMI (which is a biological processor essentially, more so now) into a new shell and call it a day. That's gone, thankfully, so only synthetics are technically immortal. Or are they?

The wiki does not seem to overtly mention whether or not the Aut'akh will be able to circumvent their own mortality, given the apparent transient nature of replacing the majority of someone's bodily functions into a bio-synthetic body. The wiki also doesn't mention any details about their lifespan being influenced in any way or another. I find these to be particular important details because they add certain levels of nuance to decision-making and consequence. Presently, security is essentially punished for taking acts that endanger themselves or other people if they think they can get away with "We can clone them" as an acceptable 'out' of a hostage-taking scenario.

I'd hate to see the pitfall show up regarding this issue, because the effort to hold people accountable for their behavior and also hold people to an understanding that they must play their characters as if they are mortal and generally possess aversions to decisions that would likely kill them was a very painstaking effort to keep rooted in place for as long as it has. Sensible conjecture would indicate this kind of technology likely creates its own problems of maintenance for the new body, but assuming the stars line up and an Aut'akh keeps well-oiled (so to speak), they'd live up to 15 years over what their fleshier compatriots would live up to, but still mortal as their brain would likely contract conditions such as dementia, senility or Alzheimer's due to aging.

Exact details would be greatly appreciated in addressing those issues since these are particularly important things to consider given how they will inevitably influence decision-making in the heat of a conflicted round.

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4 hours ago, Scheveningen said:

A concern to levy, not that anything I have to say is important; the removal of shell IPCs and zero-consequence MMI brained IPCs (largely in combination with each other) was removed less so for its issues of transhumanist themes as much as it was essentially for the issue of the true immortality such comforts provided, as MMIs even now can almost indefinitely preserve a brain, and if the shell is destroyed you just throw the MMI (which is a biological processor essentially, more so now) into a new shell and call it a day. That's gone, thankfully, so only synthetics are technically immortal. Or are they?

The wiki does not seem to overtly mention whether or not the Aut'akh will be able to circumvent their own mortality, given the apparent transient nature of replacing the majority of someone's bodily functions into a bio-synthetic body. The wiki also doesn't mention any details about their lifespan being influenced in any way or another. I find these to be particular important details because they add certain levels of nuance to decision-making and consequence. Presently, security is essentially punished for taking acts that endanger themselves or other people if they think they can get away with "We can clone them" as an acceptable 'out' of a hostage-taking scenario.

I'd hate to see the pitfall show up regarding this issue, because the effort to hold people accountable for their behavior and also hold people to an understanding that they must play their characters as if they are mortal and generally possess aversions to decisions that would likely kill them was a very painstaking effort to keep rooted in place for as long as it has. Sensible conjecture would indicate this kind of technology likely creates its own problems of maintenance for the new body, but assuming the stars line up and an Aut'akh keeps well-oiled (so to speak), they'd live up to 15 years over what their fleshier compatriots would live up to, but still mortal as their brain would likely contract conditions such as dementia, senility or Alzheimer's due to aging.

Exact details would be greatly appreciated in addressing those issues since these are particularly important things to consider given how they will inevitably influence decision-making in the heat of a conflicted round.

Aut'akh wouldn't know if their lifespans are any longer, because they've only existed for 10 years. 

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It would be an interesting arc (or even just an article) to have some scientists try to determine lifespan. "Oh, shit, you guys are like, not going to live very long with the stress this puts on your yada yada etc" or "Wow, nice, seems there's no catastrophic result to this".

 

I know which one is better from a story standpoint. Imagine sacrificing your lifespan for your belief and the conflict in each Unathi and the further conflict in taking away that choice from their children.

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I had always known this type of technology had exisited within the aurora universe (how could it not?) and have always been a fan of the idea of cybernetic integration. This subspecies reflects many of R. Stein Fraxial's views (however horrible or irrelevant they are they were expressed) regarding the fusion of organic and inorganics. So let us blur the line between synthetics and organics. This will be interesting.

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The only problem I see with this, now that I’m thinking about it, they won’t really be discriminated against since very few players are willing to buckle down and do something “””””amoral””””” like judging someone based on appearance. Most of them will probably jump around for a round or two and then be completely accepting. 

 

Really hoping the Unathi Whitelistees really drive the hatred home, even our residential Guwans.

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3 hours ago, Butterrobber202 said:

The only problem I see with this, now that I’m thinking about it, they won’t really be discriminated against since very few players are willing to buckle down and do something “””””amoral””””” like judging someone based on appearance. Most of them will probably jump around for a round or two and then be completely accepting. 

 

Really hoping the Unathi Whitelistees really drive the hatred home, even our residential Guwans.

Don't worry bud I'll do it 

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