Stobarico's Head of Staff Application 2: Electric Boogaloo

[stobarico]

BYOND key: Stobarico

Character names: Yumi Yamato, Rim Soo-Min, Larissa Izakovich, Helena Raymond, Samuel Nowak, Noah Mayfly, Zhao Huang, Dominius Dornelles, Aires Fortuna, Alice Newcastle.

How long have you been playing on Aurora?: Around 6 months

Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?: I usually play command roles on other stations and i rather enjoy it, and also because of my previously denied application (2 months ago).

Why did you come to Aurora? I was searching for a HRP server (Since i mostly played CM) and found Aurora and Bay.

Have you read the Aurora wiki on the head roles and qualifications you plan on playing?: Yes

Have you received any administrative actions? And how serious were they? I was ahelped once about calling out a cortical borer, but that's it. (At the time i didn't know borers were unknown to the public)

Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph each.

• Give a definition of what you think roleplay is, and should be about: For me, roleplaying is to impersonate a character, act as he should act in real life, but in a game.
• What do you think the OOC purpose of a Head of Staff is, ingame?:  They are there to maintain order, to command their staff (Command (Captain), Security(Head of Security), Medical(Chief Medical Officer), Science(Research Director), Service(Head of Personel), Engineering(Chief Engineer)) and to assist them as the Standard Operating Procedure lets them.
• What do you think the OOC responsibilities of Whitelisted players are to other players, and how would you strive to uphold them?: A team needs orders, someone to command them, or it becomes really hard to do things, but, if the commander is bad, the team can fall behind, well, i would give out the orders, and try helping them as i could, that means, as the Standard Operating Protocol says (Obviously, on a crisis, i would mostly help them as i could)

Could you give us the gist of what is currently happening in Tau ceti and how it affected your character and their career? Tau Ceti is one of the few factions with phoron in their boarders, they are an independent system in the core of the human space and NanoTrasen has a lot of ties with their government (The Republic of Biesel). They are currently one of the most populated and financially prosperous systems in the galaxy, however, the Republic remains unstable due to unrest and its agressive neighbouring "wounded giant", the Sol Alliance. The Aurora station (A high tech, and the second most important NanoTrasen station, losing to the NSS Upsilon)  is a somewhat recent addition to the system, and so is the Odin (NanoTrasen's Central Command). And recently, a galactic-wide phoron shortage has been making everything worse, however, now the galaxy is in the brink of a full blown war, as chaos takes over Mars, and the 35th Sol Fleet is spotted by Odin's AI in the edges of the system. I considered most of my characters to be in cryo stasis for the time i've been out, so they haven't had the chance to react to the current situation.

What roles do you plan on playing after the application is accepted? Research Director, Corporate Liaison and Consular Officer, Head of Security.

Characters you intend to use for command or have created for command. Include the job they will be taking: Rim Soo-Min (Haven't played her since the first whitelist trial as she was promoted to Director and left Zavodskoi for NanoTrasen)

How would you rate your own roleplaying?: I'd rate it to be good to very good, i've been playing SS13 for 6 years or so, and TTRPGs for 4 years. Currently i believe i'm also more integrated with Aurora's lore.

Do you understand your whitelist is not permanent, and may be stripped following continuous administrative action? Yes.

Have you familiarize yourself with the wiki pages for the command roles? Yes.

Extra notes: I've been away for some weeks now due to some IRL stuff, but i feel like after i had this "break" i'm ready to try this whitelist again. (With way less spaghettery)

Edited November 25, 2020 by stobarico
Added new characters

[ShesTrying]

Hi! I'm going to be handling this application. Please take some time to gather feedback at the end of rounds you've played. Thanks!

[ThelonTV]

Acted like a competent roboticist during last round and helped out where they could. Didn't really interact much but from seeing them I get a good impression. +1

Edited November 22, 2020 by ThelonTV

[lukebr2]

Yumi is a great character to interact with and i remember RPing with Rim Soo-Min in the past and she was a great Director i would love to see her back +1

[ShesTrying]

Alright! I'm going to go ahead and trial you. Your trial begins tosay, 11/23, and ends in 7 days, on 11/30.

Good luck, and remember to keep gathering feedback!

If you have any questions or concerns please contact me on Discord at Owivia#4393

 

[CampinKiller]

I have to downvote this in the strongest of terms. Round ref: b0h-cjxu

Stob's RD acted in an incredibly hostile, aggressive, and all around shitter manner, for lack of a better term. They repeatedly insulted my HoS, during security situations, for things that either did not occur, or because security wasn't validing the antag. 

The background of the round: A Solarian Scout appeared on station, with a barebones security staff. Seeing military-grade equipment, my HoS elected to not engage as they are not a threat to the crew, but simply taking some pictures. Due to other situations, this was put on the backburner, and the Scout even helped out medical at one point in the round. Eventually, Security tried to arrest a scientist for several minor charges some time later on, and they used an IED that essentially blew themselves up. At this point, Stob's RD runs in, outright screaming at my HoS of being incompetent and murdering the scientist. This was the culmination of their absolutely awful command behavior on the command network for the entirety of the round that I was present for. Below are several screenshots.

After Price said he wouldn't engage the scout with just him and one officer:

No militia was encouraged at any time:

Antagonizing during a hostage situation:

After a scientist tried to blow us up with an IED:

Some more fun on command after the Captain joined:

All in all, I find this kind of behavior from a member of command towards another member to be awful. I do not believe that they should hold a command whitelist if this is the kind of behavior that they were exhibit - essentially demanding that security valid an antag, then antagonizing the HoS when they do not get their way.

[BoryaTheSlayer]

1 hour ago, CampinKiller said:

All in all, I find this kind of behavior from a member of command towards another member to be awful. I do not believe that they should hold a command whitelist if this is the kind of behavior that they were exhibit - essentially demanding that security valid an antag, then antagonizing the HoS when they do not get their way.

Hard agree. Not only did the conclusions the character made were out of nowhere and far out of proportion for somebody who is a research director, but they also kept constantly berating a different head of staff for how they were running their department. Not only did the marine not actually hurt anyone(in fact they even provided medical aid), but there were other, more pressing issues going on at the time that needed the attention of security much more than a single marine taking pictures.

Besides, what are they gonna do with those pictures? I would understand the concern if they were breaking into high-security areas, which is something security should've watched out for, but the situation just became complete chaos because 2 members of command were just completely antagonizing the Head of Security for he decided to deal with the security situation.

[Faris]

1 hour ago, CampinKiller said:

*snip*

I observed this for the most part, I have to agree to an extent. 

While it's alright to have some measure of friction between command staff, it needs to be reasonable. The bar for conflict might be somewhat loosened given that the story of the station is undergoing difficult and divisive times, but even then I feel the Director was overboard.

 

The issue is that it seemed like it was overly hostile and confrontational, don't really recall any attempts to help the HoS considering they clearly informed the Director that for a number of reasons they aren't able to deal with this issue. The HoS outlined two issues. 1- Lack of people to adequately handle a Sol incursion at the time, the incursion for the time being passive. 2- There were other more active and dangerous situations to deal with, like the hostage situation.

It would be understandable if the HoS was clearly aiding and uncaring about the incursion by Sol, but they had reasons, reasons I feel were very fair which the Director did not seem to care about nor give the time of day to be productive towards by actually being helpful.

[stobarico]

1 hour ago, BoryaTheSlayer said:

Besides, what are they gonna do with those pictures? I would understand the concern if they were breaking into high-security areas, which is something security should've watched out for, but the situation just became complete chaos because 2 members of command were just completely antagonizing the Head of Security for he decided to deal with the security situation.

High security areas were broken into, the vault had been breached and no culprit was found by investigation, and we had no idea if she only had pictures with her. The problem the character had is the Head of Security decided to not deal with the situation, causing the whole Science department to antagonize him and complain to her, the Director.

 

1 hour ago, Aboshedab said:

The issue is that it seemed like it was overly hostile and confrontational, don't really recall any attempts to help the HoS considering they clearly informed the Director that for a number of reasons they aren't able to deal with this issue. The HoS outlined two issues. 1- Lack of people to adequately handle a Sol incursion at the time, the incursion for the time being passive. 2- There were other more active and dangerous situations to deal with, like the hostage situation.

It would be understandable if the HoS was clearly aiding and uncaring about the incursion by Sol, but they had reasons, reasons I feel were very fair which the Director did not seem to care about nor give the time of day to be productive towards by actually being helpful.

On point one, to take down a lightly armed scout is to handle an actual larger incursion later, mainly when the scout did not have any heavier weaponry, as they only had on person, their armor and an oxygen tank.

The hostage situation was dealt quickly and shittily, the Janitor who did it was shot dead in a few minutes after security arrived on scene, even when they had no armor to counteract disabler fire.

The Director had no way of assisting due to there being no mining division present, she gladly upgrades security in a regular basis, even developping more efficient disablers when she's able. What seemed to Soo-Min and the whole science department is that Price was clearly aiding and uncaring about the incursion, even saying that "If the scout returned to the fleet, the takeover would be bloodless".

 

3 hours ago, CampinKiller said:

No militia was encouraged at any time:

It was, you accidentally forgot to put in the part where you said for us to grab up arms and go after him if we are so worried about the marine

 

Although i agree it was overly hostile of Soo-Min, it is currently part of her character (Not only was she always a bit like this, but now she's stressed easily because of what the 35th did to Konyang), but when reason is needed she gets down to it (She had open the door for security when they requested to be let in to deal with the Tajaran who was causing problems, who then security proceeded to chase down into a corner and shoot down, making them throw the "grenade".)

Edited November 24, 2020 by stobarico
She had a gun.

[CampinKiller]

I just want to clarify some inaccuracies in your reply, without turning this into an argument and derailing the thread.

7 minutes ago, stobarico said:

High security areas were broken into, the vault had been breached and no culprit was found by investigation,

The Vault was breached well before the marine arrived. The actual player who was the marine didn't join until the investigation has wrapped up as well.

8 minutes ago, stobarico said:

On point one, to take down a lightly armed scout is to handle an actual larger incursion later, mainly when the scout did not have any heavier weaponry, as they only had on person, their armor and an oxygen tank.

A combat suit like the banshee likely would have been suspected to have weapons, and the Marine was presumed to have weapons in their bag - they're a military scout, they could have grenades, carbines, anything shoved into a holster, their bag, or pockets. There's also the possibility of engaging a scout would cause the rest of the forces following to be much more aggressive - this is a civilian station, not a military outpost.

9 minutes ago, stobarico said:

The hostage situation was dealt quickly and shittily, the Janitor who did it was shot dead in a few minutes after security arrived on scene, even when they had no weaponry or armor.

The hostage situation was resolved in the best way it could. We tried to enter negotiations, and the janitor wordlessly threw two manhack grenades at us, which harmed the hostage as well, resulting in security engaging the janitor with lethal force. That's the best way that could've ended given the actions of the janitor.

11 minutes ago, stobarico said:

It was, you accidentally forgot to put in the part where you said for us to grab up arms and go after him if we are so worried about the marine

This was a sarcastic remark to your repeated suggestions that security engage a better-armed and better-trained opponent with only 2 members, and your other hostile comments. I'm not sure how you interpret that as encouraging a militia.

13 minutes ago, stobarico said:

(She had open the door for security when they requested to be let in to deal with the Tajaran who was causing problems, who then security proceeded to chase down into a corner and shoot down, making them throw the "grenade".)

I want to point out that security tazed the Tajaran when they ran, who then chose to throw the IED. Security didn't make them do anything, and your character running up to the immediate aftermath and outright accusing the HoS of murder in front of half your department is still completely uncalled for.

[ShesTrying]

Hello! After some deliberation, we're going to be denying your whitelist application. You can feel free to re-apply in one month, and if you have any questions you can contact me on Discord at ProbablyTrying#4393.