Butter's wants to be a Corporate Slave Driver (Command WL)

[Butterrobber202]

BYOND key: Butterrobber202

Character names:

How long have you been playing on Aurora? :  A long time, I’ve lost track.

Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?: The Command whitelist provides the receiving player with extended roleplaying opportunities by extending their job choices to those in positions of power. This gives you a very strong ability to influence rounds, and hopefully make them more enjoyable for others. Furthermore, the lore-centric Consular position is locked behind the Command Whitelist, and it's a role I would like to play more.

Why did you come to Aurora?: I didn’t like Bay12. Aurora is the only other choice. The lore improved, I liked it, I stayed.

Have you read the Aurora wiki on the head roles and qualifications you plan on playing?: Many times.

Have you received any administrative actions? And how serious were they?: Quite the Laundry List actually. I’ve received bans and antag bans in the past. But as far as I’m aware most, if not all, my notes, warnings, and administrative punishments have related to my antag play. I have been clean of any admin warnings or punishments for the last couple of months.

 

Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph each.

 

Give a definition of what you think roleplay is, and should be about:

Roleplay is complicated, and I prefer it that way. It is a fantastic way to experience things you would never do, or have the opportunity to do in a fantasy environment. I think Roleplay’s main goal, or what it’s about, is the characters. How the characters we create interact with the world around them, the other characters around them, and the circumstances we put them through. I don’t care if my character’s limbs get blown off, as long as I get some good RP out of it.

But to give a definition, it's putting yourself in a character's shoes and acting how they would.

 

What do you think the OOC purpose of a Head of Staff is, ingame?:

You drive the round, literally. The crew of the station will look to you to decide what the Station’s response should be to whatever is happening in the round. So, it’s the command player’s job to strike a balance between the different parties of players and try and give everyone an equal chance to participate in the round. Additionally, you also have the ability to end rounds at your fingertips round start. This isn’t something non-whitelisted players have, and one of your jobs is deciding when the crew have taken enough.

The long and short of it is, you have a heavy amount of influence on the round, and the reason you have it is to improve the round for all players, antags included.

 

What do you think the OOC responsibilities of Whitelisted players are to other players, and how would you strive to uphold them?:

The question overlaps with the last. As a whitelisted player in round, your job is to use the lore provided to you by the staff to drive a story. You are effectively a representation of the lore, in-game. Without performing this responsibility, you won’t have that “Aurora” identity with your character and at that point, why even play Aurora? I take this seriously even now, when I’m not command. Anytime I make a new character (and I do that a lot) I’m going to open up the wiki and get to reading. I don’t make characters without refreshing myself on their race and cultural lore.

 

Could you give us the gist of what is currently happening in Tau ceti and how it affected your character and their career?

For the record, I intend to create a new character if this is accepted.

I don’t have a name for this character yet, as that is usually the very last thing I do. But my idea was that he is an Eridani Suit that was “let go” during a staff restructuring at Einstein Engines. Now back on the Job Market, he notices Nanotrasen has taken its first noticeable beating in a long time in the form of the lost court case with Einstein. His reasoning is that NT is obviously going to want capable people (such as a fine-mannered Suit like himself) on their staff to help get their profits back in black. So, after applying, he’s hired on as an Head of Personnel.

I intend to write more for this character, but that was the idea that came to me.

 

What roles do you plan on playing after the application is accepted?

The big three are: Captain, Consular, Head of Personnel. But recently, I’ve been playing Engineering again, so I’m considering Chief Engineer.

I have interest in Head of Security, but in the past it just proved a stressfest and I stopped playing them after a few rounds. I'll probably try it again, and stop again to be honest.

As for CMO and RD, I have little interest in them as I am writing this application.

 

Characters you intend to use for command or have created for command. Include the job they will be taking: I intend to make a Head of Personnel, using a new character after the application process.

How would you rate your own roleplaying?: Dislike the question. I’m better than some, worse than others. I feel certain I can provide interesting RP. 7/10

Do you understand your whitelist is not permanent, and may be stripped following continuous administrative action?:  Yeeeeeaaaaah.

Have you familiarize yourself with the wiki pages for the command roles? Wasn’t this already a question? Yes.

Extra notes: I don't think I can make my HoP as fashionably Eridani as Sleepy's Captain. ?

Edited April 3, 2021 by Butterrobber202
I forgot to give my roleplay definition.

[Doxxmedearly]

You had one already and lost it (presumably) to administrative action. I'm very familiar with your laundry list, as well as your OOC conduct. I'm not impressed with either. You're as abrasive and quick to get into fights as you were years ago. We were both on command trials at the same time back in 2018 and I remember you being frustratingly unable to communicate with as fellow command (Which was not helped by you going afk for long periods of time in several rounds). As well, there are several people in this community that I think are more here to robust, valid, and win than they are to drive an INTERESTING round, and your name is among them, given the consistent behavior I've seen from you since the 3 years I've been in this community. And your list of administrative actions doesn't incline me to believe that I'm being terribly unfair here.

Rather than ask you what's changed, I'd rather know what you think you'd like to add to rounds as command. Your definition of roleplay's a fine one; I'd like to see you uphold it, even if a round is on extended or maybe some antags are trying a more peaceful gimmick idea. Are you interested in driving such a story? What are your thoughts on what command as a whole can do better in rounds?

For now, I can't say I'd support you on a trial. As always, I'd prefer to be proven wrong in this instance. Either way, good luck.

[Butterrobber202]

1 hour ago, Doxxmedearly said:

You had one already and lost it (presumably) to administrative action. I'm very familiar with your laundry list, as well as your OOC conduct. I'm not impressed with either. You're as abrasive and quick to get into fights as you were years ago. We were both on command trials at the same time back in 2018 and I remember you being frustratingly unable to communicate with as fellow command (Which was not helped by you going afk for long periods of time in several rounds). As well, there are several people in this community that I think are more here to robust, valid, and win than they are to drive an INTERESTING round, and your name is among them, given the consistent behavior I've seen from you since the 3 years I've been in this community. And your list of administrative actions doesn't incline me to believe that I'm being terribly unfair here.

Rather than ask you what's changed, I'd rather know what you think you'd like to add to rounds as command. Your definition of roleplay's a fine one; I'd like to see you uphold it, even if a round is on extended or maybe some antags are trying a more peaceful gimmick idea. Are you interested in driving such a story? What are your thoughts on what command as a whole can do better in rounds?

For now, I can't say I'd support you on a trial. As always, I'd prefer to be proven wrong in this instance. Either way, good luck.

I addressed this on the last app, where I was taken away from my computer during trial because of IRL. It wasn't something I had control over, it was a one-time occurrence, it was just bad luck that it happened at that time.

As for the robusting, valid, and win part. Yeah, for the time I've been here I've done alot of stuff in the department instead of driving a story. I get that, and you're right. Like you said, for the large span of time I've been here, I've antagged hard and fast without placing the need for a story first. I've acknowledged that, and spoken with admins about it. I can't really prove to you that I've cooled off since I don't think you pick up antag very often. But, you thankfully haven't made that the question of your post.

Adding to rounds as command is complicated, because not all command members are going to add to a story the same way. I'm not specifically talking about their different roles mind you. The Characters themselves will have varied responses because they are different. If I was playing an Eridani Suit, like I mentioned in the app, I'd run a few ideas on my head on how to make the antags a net gain for Nanotrasen. For example, if they were here to setup a shop and sell their antag items? Tax'em. It's believable that a Corporate mongol would want to find a way to slide credits into NT's pockets, and that way the antags would still get their interaction. 

As it stands, the few active command players usually do okay when it comes to gimmicks. I know you can go into Command positions with the idealistic idea that you can accommodate any gimmick, then the antags start shooting. I understand why many in Command are gun-shy about gimmicks. The good news is, most of them give you a chance as long as you don't come in guns blazing. Previously on extended, when I had the Whitelist, I did things like throwing pool parties as Captain and stuff like that for moral raising reasons, but uh, sometimes no one shows up for those and it can be disheartening. 

Anyhow, with that said I hope you opinion changes on the trial.

[ShesTrying]

I'll be handling this app. Please continue to gather feedback.

[ShesTrying]

I'm going to trial you, as this doesn't seem to be gathering much more feedback-- please continue to gather feedback during your trial, which starts today 04-10, and ends on the 04-17. Good luck!

[Omicega]

Hello,

I don't know Butter all that well OOCly but I tend to main security and have come up against their antag play a few times. I'm mentioning this specifically because there is a pretty uncompromising and vicious post going after that particular aspect of their gameplay, and I can say that I've had basically no issue at all with their play in that regard. In fact, on the one merc round I've shared with them as part of the same antag team, they were the loudest voice against a gunplay focused angle of antag play, and were essentially entirely pacifistic until the end in spite of how other team members chose to escalate things.

As far as their IC conduct goes regarding non-antag play, I also have no complaints. I've interacted with their trialled head of personnel on a few occasions and think it's a well-portrayed character. Their OOC conduct is also very cordial. I think they deserve positive more feedback than they are getting, hence why I'm posting at all, since I've sat on the fence about it for too long.

+1

[Sycmos]

A stark majority of my somewhat limited exposure to Butterrobber in round and OOC has been unfortunately largely negative; the few instances that I was aware they were playing either an antag or a character in round they were more interested in violence than developing roleplay, and their lack of presence outside of a handful of other antag rounds I've participated in doesn't tell me that they're interested in anything outside of antag rounds either. OOCly their repeated participation in questionable discussion in the OOC channel, as well as their past attitude in deadchat, has led to me turning off OOC and deadchat more than once. I can't reasonably support a +1 unless Robber decides to shape up and develop a character outside of a face that allows him to participate in antag rounds, because I frankly can't recall any character of theirs that is anything else.

[Butterrobber202]

1 hour ago, Sycmos said:

... a character in round they were more interested in violence than developing roleplay, and their lack of presence outside of a handful of other antag rounds I've participated in doesn't tell me that they're interested in anything outside of antag rounds either...

Out of curiosity, what characters of mine have you seen been violent, even when not antag? I rarely participate in violence when I'm not an antag or playing Security, additionally I don't play on-station antags very often, so I'm unsure of where the notion arises from. The last time I recall playing an on-station antag, was with a Vaurca Cadet in Security who I decided I didn't enjoy and trashed the character concept, and during the round I played them, I was only violent when attacked by Security.

[CampinKiller]

I liked Markos in the round I played with him, he communicated well, didn't overstep his boundaries, and in my mind acted as a command member should

[ShesTrying]

After a chat with Butter, we're going to extend his trial another week. It will now end 4/25/2021. Please continue to gather feedback!

[Desven]

I've been on the fence about Gavin (Butter's Captain) and while I do prefer his HOP, today I had a good round where he toured me around as a Ta Consular, and was really helpful over all. 10/10. +1

[ShesTrying]

Welcome to Command!

Trial accepted.