Diggey Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 BYOND key: Diggey Mineson Discord Username: DeGurkin#5455 Character names: (sorted by how likely you are to have seen them around) Zacharias Sneed, Freighter Captain Supsantangwongse Kantawong, Orion Express Courier/Captain Nlom'Kaax Xonq, Freighter Crew/Orion Express Courier Hazel - P.T. 2104.2454, Freighter Crew Otenell Qrblaak, Phoron Researcher Ka'Akaix'Theth K'lax, Hangar Technician/Miner Han Song, Janitor/ Hydroponicist/ Xenobotanist (wooh) Layana Oumarou-Bouba, Personal Assistant Bob Roberts, Assitant Frida Mofette, Bridge Crew X-Avier, Psychiatrist Keira Pfeifer, former Service Manager Passenger How long have you been playing on Aurora?: Actively for the last 5 months, in total for over 5 years. Have you received any administrative actions? And how serious were they? I have been issued warnings, 3 in total over the the entirety of my time playing. The most serious one I have received was about my OOC conduct with the Administrator in question. Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph each. What do you think the OOC purpose of a Head of Staff is, ingame?: OOCly the purpose of Heads of Staff is to facilitate roleplay and give a round a driving push. They aren't the main characters, they aren't supposed to rambo in shotguns blazing and solo the rounds problems. Heads of Staff are targets, they are solutions, they are contact points for lower down players to be able to make changes and finally they are the ones sitting at the longer lever making department affecting executive decisions. Heads of Staff are also on occasion the mouthpiece from players to Staff to change the round in a fun way and from Staff to players to make a fun OOC decision to drive the round in a fun way. Heads of Staff are there for other people to have an enjoyable time. Which isn't to say a HoS is incapable of Violence. But a HoS is so much more fun if you CAN take them hostage or if you CAN overpower them (unless of course there is an all-out war rather than an abduction attempt) We are telling a collaborative story and (within reason) the players playing the Heads of Staff are there as puzzlepieces Other players do something and the Heads of Staff react in a way that makes play fun for all players involved. What do you think the OOC responsibilities of Whitelisted players are to other players, and how would you strive to uphold them?: Well first off if you Head a department you better know what the fuck you are doing ,pardon my french. If you see a Trainee engineer fumble their way into the SM your obligation is to (either through direct roleplay or LOOCly) guide their hips into setting up the Supermatter. Your character went to college, he knows how to set up the SM, but maybe you, the player, do not. Well you would look to the Chief Engineer's player for Guidance, no? That is their job, guidance. And I do not just mean that in the OOC sense either. You aren't a mook, you are the Administrator of the department, you DELEGATE. A little bit of elbow grease never hurt anyone but you ain't gonna pull no Gas Cannisters around, no sir. Yeah he could set up the SM no problem, but you are learning and he is letting you learn. Apply this to your department of choice. Of course there is points where you need to step up. The HoS is not going to watch the cult win in the firefight for drama points when he sees all the sec officers bleeding out. The CMO is not going to watch the trainee surgeon fumble on a Black K'ois extraction. The Whitelisted player has an obligation to make the round as fun for as many players as reasonable. This also, strangely enough, includes the people working in his own department :'D As I said earlier the Whitelisted player also has an obligation to go along with things This is a roleplay server and nothing and I mean NOTHING hurts as much as having a fun gimmick and someone just replying "no" (within reason of course) The Scientist is making a really dumb request you KNOW is not gonna work? Humor them The Chef is REALLY suspicious? Yeah sure I will see what's up with the freezer (within reason) People have gimmicks and we employ the school of "Yes and..." only rarely do we pull out the "No but..." Someone with a whitelist should only in the gravest of circumstances employ the dreaded "No" The Head of Staff has more information than the rest of the crew curtesy of beeing, ya know, a Head of Staff. You are the first person people go to for answers and you need to make sure no one is panicking when people are flooding into your department asking for help you are there to tell your department about the blob that breached the Nitrogen Tank / about the bombings in the kitchen / about the Flesh-Tendril-Blood-Monster in mining. You need to make it clear what is happening and how your department can help/how your department needs to secure themselves. We do not want EMT running into an active firefight unless they know there is an active firefight. We do not want the Scientists to get caught in the ongoing hostage negotiation in EVA. Could you give us the gist of what is currently happening in Tau ceti and how it affected your character and their career? Well first off the Horizon launched, first and currently only of it's kind. Biggest of it's kind too, Venator class, a joint effort of the entire Stellar Corporate Conglomerate. Spoiler This is a desperate grasp resulting from the Phoron Crisis, an ongoing affair that has severely affected Nanotrasen, crippling the company and showing it's cracks forming all over, even as they are somewhat in control of the SCC. If that ain't a career jump I do not know what will be, this is a fantastic opportunity and a once in a lifetime, nay, once in a generation Job posting. Sure there are large installations or technically better jobs but this is not the kind of opportunity allowed to just any old small fry. There is a LOT going on recently (and not just in Tau Ceti) that is relevant in this. The ongoing Crisis in Xanu, the Crisis in Mictlan, the aftershock of the Solarian Split off in the Borderzone, Einstein Engines rolling in to EVERY major crisis and getting shot down These are tumultuous times. As for Calyssia, her home of Pheonixport has seen a major Intergalactic involvement. Calyssia comes from "old money", a family that originally settled in Phoenixport during the initial rise of the City as a "successor" to Mendell City where they started an enterprise scrapping old motor vehicles and very shortly thereafter spaceready craft, Katz Automotive (later Interstellar) eventually got involved into the first Phoron boom where the small one station company would soon make hundreds of thousands working in cooperation with Nanotrasen, in 2417, reclaiming warp capable engines and refitting vessels with bluespace drives. As a business partner and later in 2438 as a daughter firm - Calyssia was 12 when her parents sold the company. Katz Interstellar was no more, their stations were now an asset of Nanotrasen, Tau Ceti Branch. The independance war in 2452 saw a huge boom for business as major players from all around had ships that needed refitting and taking apart for still functional weapons and parts, despite beeing only a small part in the larger picture the Katz's profited greatly from their involvment in the conflict. 2459 Saw a major shift in the political evolution of the Republic, especially their relations with the Sol Alliance, more specifically their complete severance from their former Hegemon and with it economic crisis, piracy was on the rise and with it the gray market for salvaged parts This is where Calyssia saw her rise as a legal supplier of Cruiser-grade weapons systems and warpdrives to independant merchants from Xanu and the Coalition of Colonies, in cooperation with Nanotrasen of course. 2462 saw the Phoron Crisis and with it a great financial downturn for Nanotrasen, so much in fact that the company was forced to divest assets, which shortly thereafter fell into the hands of "Republic Interstellar Flight Incorporated," who would soon begin selling smaller companies and installations to the highest bidder. Which Calyssia saw as her opportunity to reclaim her family heiritage and step back into the spotlight of corporate industry. She bought back the old workshop and Salvage Bay on the Selene Shuttleport over Phoenixport and reestablished Katz Interstellar under economic co-prosperity with RIFI where her business was heavily involved in Salvaging operations in Biesel and with any entity unlikely to want to work with a corporate entity owned by Nanotrasen. For over a year Katz interstellar would work reclaiming old vessels and buying claims in the Reconstruction zone, reestablishing old independance war era stations and taking apart old derelicts to resell the parts on the open market Recently however it was discovered that RIFI was in fact a shell company for Einstein Engines, a longtime rival of Nanotrasen (and with the establishment of the SCC the SCC) and all assets and companies associated with the RIFI were sold off at a massive auction, which of course involved that bay under Selene Shuttleport Limited, just above Phoenixport which was bought up by Nanotrasen with significant financial support from Idris incorporated. Calyssia of course has to face a severe demotion, but as part of the liquidation of her corporate assets has negotiated a deal, due to her beeing uniquely qualified to oversee operations in the Reconstruction zone. In no small part thanks to her previous 2 year involvement in managing reconstruction efforts and her business connections with independants in the area. Calyssia has sent more than one salvage crew to their near death and has so far always managed to turn a near disaster into a lucrative opportunity for everyone involved. What roles do you plan on playing after the application is accepted? Corporate Liaison, Consular Officer, Operations Manager, Executive Officer. Have you familiarized yourself with the wiki pages for the command roles? Yes, even for pages I have no interest in such as the CMO page. (the main page needs a review and the Chain of Command page does not include Operations Manager and has some grammatical errors (you may will often jump in)(it also implies Assistants do not need to listen to anyone but all the Heads of Staff)) Characters you intend to use for command or have created for command. Include the job they will be taking.: Created for command: Calyssia Jiyaji-Katz, Operations Manager Do you understand your whitelist is not permanent, and may be stripped following continuous administrative action? Yes Have you linked your byond account to the forums? I certainly think so Extra notes: Calyssia is happily married to Kaito Jiyaji, a man she met on a business council with Republic Interstellar Flight Incorporated. They have two Children, Styliani and Alkinos She is 38 years old - She has been working in the Salvage industry for 22 years (16 years officially) Calyssia has faced severe discrimination as part of her brief stint as CEO of an Independant company The only reason she was allowed a job in the SCC was her fierce negotiating and previous work record with Nanotrasen Calyssia is qualified to fly Shuttles, Corvettes, Cruisers, Freighters and Carriers (though she usually just flies shuttlecraft and Freighters) I wanna see more Corporate Liasons and I am applying for a whitelist for this specific purpose. I do not think I am cut out for high stress situations, I am an Extended main and I say this proudly and loudly. However I am willing to show my RP chaps if it means I can be trusted with playing a Corporate Representative and to go on representing some players in their ongoing storyarcs. Link to comment
John_Bigless Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Looking pretty good. Liking the way of integrating the events of Phoenixport into character backstory. +1 Link to comment
KingOfThePing Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 My opinion of you/your characters has not changed since the Skrell App from March. Cemented further by seeing you play Service Manager when it still existed, thus I do not support this app. Link to comment
Dreamix Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I do enjoy Diggey's characters, both the off-ship ones [Zacharias, Supsa] and on-ship [Otenell, Theth, Han]. I do not think I interacted with the other characters. Zacharias and Supsa especially so, I've seen them lead Orion/Freighter a solid few times each, and generate good roleplay for both Orion/Freighter crew, as well as Horizon's crew, having played on both sides alongside them. I believe the Orion/Freighter experience and gameplay transfers well to Operations Manager, which is very much a low-stress role, even if it is command. I support this app +1 Link to comment
DahBunny Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I personally love working with Theth and Supsa, lots of good RP there, so i'll give a +1 Link to comment
Peppermint Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Whilst I try to be neutral in giving feedback and raising concerns for most apps I post on, this one isn't the case. Per the issues raised for your skrell app, I am very against you getting a command WL. The mentioned problems of making others uncomfortable and seemingly a lack of being able to pick between IC and OOC is a really bad mix from my perspective to get a WL. Especially given the warning you received not too long ago for making questionable looc comments not too far gone - of which I feel fine bringing up given it's documented on the forums anyway. Likewise dealing with you as a service manager really sucked in the constant micromanaging, to the point where it was OOCly unfun to deal with. To cap things off, my dealings with you from the staff side have been very negative when it come to attitude and the way issues have been approached and dealt with. I do not see any real change per the March skrell issues and giving you a position of 'authority' even just ICly seems to my mind a mistake. Link to comment
Flpfs Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I have seen extremely pedantic behavior from you. This can be seen in this IR specifically: https://forums.aurorastation.org/topic/16991-incident-report-13022464 So, let's break this IR down because there's a lot of text and images... - Anya Orlova, the chef, removes the table so she can farm crops to serve food. There was no botanist. - You find out she removed the table, so you discipline (with no authority) the chef Issana (who had nothing to do with Orlova) about your authority (which again does not exist with the role that you were playing) - A meteor hits the kitchen, and botany gets vented too. You write a ton of forms and then warn Orlova that "it was all her fault" (quoted directly from forum post) For any viewers, you can click on the link above and see the quantity of just how many forms were filed by Diggey's character, and the bureaucratic spaghetti of documents. This application has a section of OOC responsibilities that a head of staff player must have. This includes being fair to the players and not abusing your authority to ruin somebody else's round. The chef that removed the table, did so because they needed the crops to do their job. It is not fun on an OOC level to sit and stare at a wall simply because some other player didn't join to work in botany. You, instead of simply ignoring it, decided to create a huge mess over something as simple as a table being removed so they can make their food and RP with other people as a chef. It is not fun to sign up for a job and have no equipment. You are supposed to know that on an OOC level. Removing a table which can be reassembled is not the end of the world. The IR was subsequently thrown away with even CCIA saying that the modification was extremely minor. With the above said, I have also heard from other players and experienced myself an extremely micromanaging behavior from you, going as far as to control where each individual janitor is, sending messages to their PDAs to see if they are working or not. Nobody on an OOC level likes to be micromanaged and players want to have opportunities to roleplay naturally, and not be checked in every five minutes to see if they're working their jobs like robots. Continuing, I do not want you in a head position due to the above concerns of your controlling behavior. A head of staff whitelist would essentially give you the authority to actually ruin people's rounds. Playing as a HoP, HoS or captain, you could have people arrested or suspended (essentially being removed from their job for the rest of the round which can be the only one they can play in a day) for not instantly responding to you, for not doing things the exactly millimetric way that you want, for something as simple as removing a table. I, and other players, would not like you being a head of staff because it would enable you to continue with this very unpopular behavior that has caused you to be disliked, and the role of service manager to be scrapped. Further more, I have concerns with your knowledge of lore, and usage of acceptable grammar. If you want to change and be a good command player sometime, think about the OOC repercussions of your actions and that there are real-life people playing the characters that you interact to. Nobody likes to file endless forms, or be forced to not do their jobs because of a mechanical limitation (lack of players which would not happen in a real workplace). Link to comment
Sky Kid Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) Never had any bad experiences with Diggey myself. I read the application in its entirety and was seriously impressed. Every character they play is authentic and breathe life into the round. I feel obligated to voice my opinion on this app due to how much potential Diggey has to influence others positively with a command role. Definite support for this app, good luck. Edited June 12, 2022 by Sky Kid Link to comment
WickedCybs Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) I've seen what your style of managing people and acting as a sort of command figure entails via service manager and there is no way to sugarcoat it, it's consistently bad and was driving others away from your department of choice (service). You micro-managed others constantly spamming them with you orders, you would attempt to flex your "authority" on non-issues and would double down on pushback while seemingly having a vendetta against anyone that dare go against how you saw your role and you would also delve into the realm of using information you had no way of knowing as a ghost to further secure an edge for yourself as you did in the IR Flpfs linked. I was present for all of that round. You began salting in dchat about Anya. You even went into LOOC to complain at Anya for giving away a guest pass while you were ghosted. Out of game you are not pleasant to deal with and have a tendency to ignore whoever is talking to you. You have also been spamming a lot of channels in your campaign to get service manager back, to the point where I could go to the department discord and view how this is all you did for a solid few months there. There would have to be a serious change in how you act before I'd think you could be trusted to play a job that has a big effect on the round. Edited June 12, 2022 by WickedCybs Link to comment
Sheeplets Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) I play the character involved in the mentioned IR, so I thought it'd be prudent to give my two cents. Especially considering that it was padded out with everything and anything available at the time to make me look bad. As a brief recap, in this IR from one round I was: - Accused of being dismissive for not greeting Pfifer with enough enthusiasm in an elevator because I simply said "hello". - Accused of intentionally getting off an elevator on the wrong floor to avoid her when in reality I was still getting used to the map and confused the first and second decks. - Accused of slipping away and into the public access garden to duck her, because I stopped in along my way to grab a plant bag for the kitchen. - Accused of single-handedly being responsible for the entire service wing of the ship being vented by a meteor in an act of deliberate sabotage because I cleared out the windoor and table in the kitchen/hydroponics interstitial to grow produce, an area that's protected by an emergency shutter to begin with. - Accused of causing a cow in hydroponics to die in the depressurized area following the meteor impact. - Accused of illegally(?) providing access to someone by handing off a hydroponics guest pass that Pfifer later printed to my coworker, Issana. - Accused of undermining Pfifer's "authority" as a Service Manager when I consulted with the Head of Security after she handed me a manila folder loaded with filled out Command-level permissions paperwork that she had no business handling, and copies of complaint forms she intended to file. After handing off that folder, you immediately cryo'd after insisting the entire venting situation was my fault - But that it was okay, because you had my back and weren't going to take it farther! You then spied on Issana and I as a ghost, complained in deadchat, and commented to us in LOOC. I asked a nearby HOS if you had any ability to make good on your threats. Their answer of course being "none whatsoever". Seeing this, as a ghost, you took all this information - a chunk of which was gathered through purely OOC means, weaponized it, and used it to pad out your IR that went up only an hour or so later. Right after gloating about how "merciful" you were being by not pressing the matter. You must have changed your mind after I bruised your ego. That said, I'm aware that you harbored negative feelings about my character from our previous IC encounters, where your ability to act as anything more than low-rung management was brought into question. A small number of these incidents include but aren't limited to: - Trying to arm my character for a Service department militia using guns and armor you ordered en masse from Cargo to combat antagonists with. - Attempting to order me to forcibly detain Shoe Chef, saying that you'd "authorized" me to do so. You then got upset with me when I refused to comply, because that is an utterly insane thing to demand a cook to do. He had a hammer. - Chastising me for opting to remain in a locked down kitchen and roleplay with other people instead of answering your demand to shelter in place with you during an elevated alert, and then coming to personally yell at me for not doing so. - Single-handedly seizing control of and doing every job in Service in lieu of, and sometimes in the presence of available staff. Including mine. - Demanding that every single person in the department be working, tirelessly, and interrupting any RP they may be having at the time to force them back to their assigned areas under the threat of disciplinary action from you. All I can assume is that you were mistaken that Service Managers held the same amount of sway as regular Command and were on par with XO's. Despite being corrected on the matter numerous times, which you ignored in order to continue as you had been. Kiera Pfifer is one of the most frustrating characters I've ever interacted with. She micromanages almost every single aspect of Service to such a degree that it genuinely makes the game unenjoyable. Everything has to revolve around her, and you by extension. Seeing her on a manifest was enough to convince me not to join for as long as you played her, because she made my job miserable. It's painfully obvious that you feel a need to exercise total control over other people, and I have no desire to be subjected to that on a larger scale. Mirroring Peppermint, giving you any inkling of authority - whatsoever - is a mistake. To reiterate, you tried to frame my character for domestic terrorism due to your OOC feelings because I removed a windoor to grow potatoes. Not because I did it, but because I didn't ask for your permission and disagreed with the idea of needing it. You're incapable of handling even small amounts of imagined power responsibly and you make me uncomfortable on an OOC level. I'm sorry, but I don't want to deal with that ever again. -1 Edited June 13, 2022 by Sheeplets slept on it Link to comment
Diggey Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 20 hours ago, Flpfs said: caused you to be disliked, and the role of service manager to be scrapped. Oh lord this is the first time ANYONE informs me of this AND I HAVE ASKED If you dislike me just tell me over discord or something. If someone had told me at the time and informed me in any way maybe these issues could have been avoided? If you have a problem with me please tell me!!! GENUINELY! I am not incapable of growth as a player or person and if you dislike my playstyle or my conduct just shoot me a quick message. I am available in game, through the BYOND Dreamseeker and on Discord. Nothing bad is going to happen if you send me criticism I am willing to talk and grow from my mistakes. There is no need for you to cancel an entire role from existing and dissapointing dozens of players just because you dislike how I play it That is not a healthy way to address issues Especially because I clearly didn't realise it was supposed to be a punishment for me it is incredibly weird to make such a metapunishment for a player and not tell them about it. Because obviously it flew over my head. 19 hours ago, Flpfs said: - Anya Orlova, the chef, removes the table so she can farm crops to serve food. There was no botanist. - You find out she removed the table, so you discipline (with no authority) the chef Issana (who had nothing to do with Orlova) about your authority (which again does not exist with the role that you were playing) - A meteor hits the kitchen, and botany gets vented too. You write a ton of forms and then warn Orlova that "it was all her fault" (quoted directly from forum post) For any viewers, you can click on the link above and see the quantity of just how many forms were filed by Diggey's character, and the bureaucratic spaghetti of documents The destruction of 2 windoors is relevant here. They did not just remove the table but the 2 Windoors and the airlock seperating them from Botany I did not Discipline anyone I did not threaten anything I was in their kitchen for about 2 minutes 20 hours ago, Flpfs said: sit and stare at a wall 19 hours ago, Flpfs said: mechanical limitation I simply told them that next time they request a Guestpass from someone that has access to botany like their manager (who was on staff) I was completely capable of giving them a Guestpass which I informed them off - And then left after telling them tearing down 2 Atmospheric dividers is not a good idea because it could lead to decompression. (foreshadowing) 20 hours ago, Flpfs said: You are supposed to know that on an OOC level. Tearing down 2 Atmospheric barriers in a real workplace strikes me as INCREDIBLY SURREAL and psychopathic behaviour and more like a last resort kinda thing. Like ask an engineer to do it first Ask anyone first rather than doing it yourself The only reason I DID fill the paperwork was BECAUSE the unauthorised/unrequested modification to the station DID lead to a decompression of service and I only did so AFTER it happened Spoiler Which mind you would be illegal as well, but I was trying to cover for them so they wouldn't get in trouble. if that hadn't happened I would not have filled the paperwork absolving them of responsibility and instead taking the responsibility onto my own shoulders as the person making the change on the executive level. I.E. the level on an investigation trying to figure out why 2 atmospheric dividers were missing during reconstruction. 19 hours ago, Flpfs said: Nobody likes to file endless forms, How is me doing all the paperwork to help my workers annoying to them? It was annoying to me They didn't need to do anything and for the rest of the round (i.e. before and after) they didn't need to do anything. I filed the paperwork This is like saying "no one likes to adjust their own access in the Executive Officer's office" Well duh the XO should be doing that The SM should be filing the paperwork for anything happening in Service. The Incident report is because when I handed them the paperwork to give to the XO for stamping and approval they didn't This was the one thing they needed to do, hand the paperwork to a guy while they were unable to work in their department Which means the changes were not approved by service or engineering and they just illegally modified the station causing a decompression of an adjacent department which SHOULD be against corporate regulation. The destruction of 2 windoors is relevant here. (Windoors can not be disassembled at all or easily reassembled) This is not about control it is about saving them This action was done for them NOT to keep my slaves in line with whipcracking. There is a very sober rationale to how I conducted myself that round with a desperate attempt at saving their butts from paying a huge fine for destroying company property (1 Cow xD) I take the station AS A WORKPLACE very seriously and something as major as tearing down 2 fucking walls ain't something I can just shrug off, not when there was engineering on staff and someone to give them access, including the XO who was also on staff. There was 3 ways they could have done this sensibly without smashing down an airtight glass wall And all I did was tell them that, not discipline them, I didn't threaten anything, I didn't allude to demotion, I just told them that. To please ask for a guestpass next time or for an engineer to do it for them 19 hours ago, Flpfs said: sending messages to their PDAs to see if they are working or not. This one is specific to me going "hey there is a spill in Medical" I do not see how that is negatively impacting them I send those messages to Janitors in my normal rounds as well. like, when I play any other character. 19 hours ago, Flpfs said: HoP, HoS or captain, Specified in my application that I have NO intentions to play these roles. I want to play Consular. 10 hours ago, Sheeplets said: - Accused of being dismissive for not greeting Pfifer with enough enthusiasm in an elevator because I simply said "hello". - Accused of intentionally getting off an elevator on the wrong floor to avoid her when in reality I was still getting used to the map and confused the first and second decks. I had a brain fart and went, "oh duh". It was insinuated that I shouldn't even have been on said wrong floor because it wasn't where I worked. - Accused of slipping away and into the public access garden to duck her, because I stopped in along my way to grab a plant bag for my work in the kitchen. That is entirely In character. You did not do anything wrong here. It was supposed to be funny that it was mentioned at all. Keira, the person, beeing paranoid for no reason. 10 hours ago, Sheeplets said: - Accused of directly causing a cow in hydroponics to die, tragically, in the now vented area following the meteor collision. Also a joke. 10 hours ago, Sheeplets said: Command-level permissions paperwork I specifically used the form to reqest that command make those decisions, not the paperwork command uses like uhhh Like the form you fill out to have engineering make the decision a Request form. Low-level form. It says on the papers that they need to be stamped by the Chief Engineer or the Executive officers This is why you not handing them in was an issue at all If SM HAD command capability she coulda just stamped them and I wouldn't need to hand them off to you so you can make the requests from the XO. it's all a big beaurocratic hassle resulting from SM not beeing command. if SM WAS command I coulda just put the paper in my filing cabinet and be done with it you wouldn't have even known I actually did file the paperwork like I said I would if SM was command. 10 hours ago, Sheeplets said: OOCly ICly. That was SUPPOSED to be ICly. I had no intentions of filling an IR but I felt now that I had threatened it it would be weird not to go through with it which was very annoying. I was debating putting the IR paper in there but decided in favour of it because an Incident did occur and IR papers that happen during a round are handled inside the round so it would be of 0 consequence Would be sigh 10 hours ago, Sheeplets said: - Trying to arm my character for a Service department militia using guns and armor you ordered en masse from Cargo to combat antagonists with. A request from Fountain the XO 10 hours ago, Sheeplets said: You then got upset with me when I refused to comply, Didn't, I was just telling you that if you do it it is on me, not you. This is not me beeing annoyed this is me beeing technical. So you do not get into trouble if you do it. 10 hours ago, Sheeplets said: - Chastising me for opting to remain in the locked down kitchen and roleplay with other people instead of answering your demands to shelter in place with you during an elevated alert, and then coming to personally yell at me for not doing so. Specific request from Fountain the XO, you were in danger, I told you to come to the designated Evac point, repeatedly, and I did not push the issue, I was just worried for your safety and trying to move you to the designated Evac point with the barriers. 10 hours ago, Sheeplets said: under the threat of disciplinary action. This keeps coming up I literally can not discipline people I have no idea what I said to make people THINK I threatened them this way. Because I literally can not. And I think about my actions. I am the kind of person to fill 6 sheets of paperwork to make sure someone else doesn't get in trouble. I have no idea why I came off as threatening you- Simultaneously I started avoiding Orlova because she was unresponsive to my attempts to check in with her. Because I, as the SM, have no authority to force her to do anything. I was well within my limits and was acting accordingly. Just say no and I stop. This counts both ICly and OOCly Which comes back to my point I made at the beginning of this TELL ME THESE THINGS I am not capable of growth is I am not informed of the mistakes I make. I have been playing command adjacent roles for 3 months now (Freighter Captain - Orion Express Captain - Lieutnant in the FSF) and I have been working on my command style. All of these complaints levelled at me are from 3 months ago and I have grown as a person BUT if there is issues that persist please tell me I can not be expected to 12 hours ago, WickedCybs said: a serious change in how you act If I am not TOLD I did anything wrong. Please. My Discord DMs are open Link to comment
KingOfThePing Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Reading this, how you argue over the literal wording of what's being brought up absolutely makes it clear, that you are really not getting it. I asked myself if I was too harsh and that I maybe was just not seeing any improvements of you because I didn't want them to see, but this makes it very clear. I will never support an application from you, be it for command or anything else. -1 Link to comment
Zelmana Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 A very large part of roleplay, to me, is avoiding a complete self-insert. While I am not sure you are doing this, and I would say you have a clearly developed character, I see a lot of complaints here surrounding a singular character and their actions. Your rebuttal to this was that is just how the character is played. As you've stated you want to play Consular, I feel like that's a good thing. If what you say is true, I would like to see a new character in service or chaplain role and see if you can gain positive feedback about the characters leadership and overall RP quality. Maybe that would help with some of the negatives here. Additionally, Command gets a metric shitton of negative feedback regularly in ooc, the forums, etc. Being able to handle this gracefully would be desirable. Link to comment
MattAtlas Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 This application is denied. I reccomend acting on the feedback given here and applying at a minimum a month from now -- but the issues described may need more time than that to be ironed out. Link to comment
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