Chaznoodles & MrGabol

[UnknownMurder]

BYOND Key: UnknownMurder

Game ID: (UNKNOWN)

Player Byond Key: Chaznoodles/MrGabol100

Staff involved: Tablespoon, Alberyk

Reason for complaint: I was hoping for someone to step up and complain regarding the players. the I think this goes by without saying, so I'll just say things briefly. Do we all remember the characters, Woodrow Mason (CHAZNOODLES) and Gabriel Barcia (MRGABOL100). I am tired with Woodrow Mason and Gabriel Barcia's consistent relationship helping each other getting away from Security. I mean, we all have seen this?

Here's some notable irregular behaviors of Chaznoodles, he uses the word, "Nigga." Some people may be offended, some may not. I just don't think the Aurora Station is actually a good place to use the N-Word whether of your race or not. Here's what I think about Chaznoodles and MrGabol? They're toxic. They continuously argue with people over little things, and make big deal out of things.

Here's some moments I had to note all down the behaviors in the round where Chaz/Gabol rebeled (non-antag) against the Captain (me). Think about it, NanoTrasen wouldn't hire this man. Secondly, we have #1 Server Rule that I always announce as the Captain.

 

 

Here, Chaz accuses me of Metagrudge.

(Captain Vincent LeChiffre & HoS Raymond Hawkins)

After the said round.

MrGabol decides to bring the IC issue to LOOC issue and yells at me.

 

I have been annoyed for a while and cannot stress enough how their behaviors were toxic to everyone. I open the complaint for other players to complain or add regarding Chaznoodles & MrGabol's behaviors whether ICly or OOCly.

EDIT: I am complaining generally of his behavior. Not round specifically.

Approximate Date/Time: 8/11/2016 6:00 PM CENTRAL TIME ZONE

Edited August 12, 2016 by Guest

[Faris]

Both of them have consistently accused my self of having a meta grudge against them, usually ending with an Admin/Moderator messaging me about the matter, because they do not have the concept of every action having a reaction. I've constantly attempted to keep my cool OOC'ly with them even when they talk about the matter OOC'ly, I try to follow the rules regarding this and I feel like as time moves on, they just push their antics further and further. Chaz may present the arguement that "Bob Thorton" always attempts to get Woodrow Mason out of the round as early as possible, claiming that I always jump the gun on him or that MrGabol says that "Raymond Hawkins" has an OOC dislike for Gabriel Barcia, and that I would find any excuse just to brig him and keep him for as long as I can. But in my personal opinion, this couldn't be harder than the truth, I always try my best to be impartial, and to be fair to you IC'ly and OOC'ly as well as I know you also want to enjoy the game.

Both have brought up comments about me on OOC, two of the most recent being from Gabol himself, with one being pictured by by UnknownMurder and the one previous to it was me joining the round as "Raymond Hawkins" and him typing two or three times "kys", which as we all know is "kill yourself", I replied by linking him both the character and player complaints sections of these forum. You may note this down to banter, but on a personal level and from their interactions with me, I really don't consider them friendly to me, nor do I know them in any other scope to consider this banter instead of them simply being an annoyance or insulting to myself or UnknownMurder at this point. I believe this complaint is valid and I would appreciate if the administration and moderator team would look into it.

[Nanako]

I've had some good interactions with Gabriel, he's fun to hang around as a mouse. Sometimes nice, sometimes not, but interested in RP either way.

I did once see him steal a medical voidsuit and a jetpack (as a bartender), and go hunting a group of escaped tajarans on the asteroid, by jumping into space. He was hilariously lucky to actually find them, and his plan went horribly wrong when he got beaten up 1v4, they stole his jetpack and threw him back into space. I'm not sure if it counts as validhunting since neither party was an antagonist, but it was wierd.

As for Chaz/woodrow, our interactions have been limited, but largely negative from what i can recall. I don't have much to say about him except i think he's kind of annoying.

I'd say failure to follow command orders is more of an IC issue, and a matter for CCIA

[Chaznoodles]

Accidentally hit refresh, deleted my entire reply, so I'll condense it.

Both myself and Barcia's player have repeatedly adminhelped issues with a certain group of heads of staff/Security players, including yourself. It's hit a point where it's no longer an IC issue, but metagrudge. I'd like to pull this complaint up as one of said issues, as every incident we've had with this player so far has been a negative one, caused by them. We have both been recommended to make complaints on the forums repeatedly, but have not.

You, as one of the players we've accused of metagrudge, as well as another player who has posted here, Raymond Hawkins, have created a ridiculous number of problems for us, broken regulations, and got away scot-free because it's always declared an IC issue. It's hit a point, again, where it's no longer an IC issue.

I'm not willing to post the incidents related to metagrudge here, as the people involved will try and turn them on their head. If anyone wants to know about them, you're welcome to PM me here or on Discord. I'm tired of being excluded from rounds because certain people don't like what I play.

[Taintedglory]

I'm impartial to the accused, but I want to speak about the name That keeps popping up, Raymond Hawkins. I've had nothing but good interactions with this character as they follow regulations and sop to the T. That includes the regulations and sop points that prevent to much chucklefucking in a round. We all want to have fun in the game but to much of it can lead to retarded rp. Hawkins helps put a stop to this and if players disagrees with it, then those players should look inward at their actions

So I think that the accused should leave this character out of their defense as it would make for a poor defense

[Chaznoodles]

I'm impartial to the accused, but I want to speak about the name That keeps popping up, Raymond Hawkins. I've had nothing but good interactions with this character as they follow regulations and sop to the T. That includes the regulations and sop points that prevent to much chucklefucking in a round. We all want to have fun in the game but to much of it can lead to retarded rp. Hawkins helps put a stop to this and if players disagrees with it, then those players should look inward at their actions

So I think that the accused should leave this character out of their defense as it would make for a poor defense

 

Thanks for the recommendation, but just because the character's nice to some people, doesn't mean they're nice to others.

[Taintedglory]

I'm impartial to the accused, but I want to speak about the name That keeps popping up, Raymond Hawkins. I've had nothing but good interactions with this character as they follow regulations and sop to the T. That includes the regulations and sop points that prevent to much chucklefucking in a round. We all want to have fun in the game but to much of it can lead to retarded rp. Hawkins helps put a stop to this and if players disagrees with it, then those players should look inward at their actions

So I think that the accused should leave this character out of their defense as it would make for a poor defense

 

Just because the character's nice to some people, doesn't mean they're nice to others.

 

I didn't say nice, I said good. They have no done anything wrong from an IC point of view. I have not once seen him do an arrest or a fine on an improper violation, nor mistreat prisoners. Whether or not they are nice in the process is irrelevant

[Owen]

I'm impartial to the accused, but I want to speak about the name That keeps popping up, Raymond Hawkins. I've had nothing but good interactions with this character as they follow regulations and sop to the T. That includes the regulations and sop points that prevent to much chucklefucking in a round. We all want to have fun in the game but to much of it can lead to retarded rp. Hawkins helps put a stop to this and if players disagrees with it, then those players should look inward at their actions

So I think that the accused should leave this character out of their defense as it would make for a poor defense

 

I also find Raymond Hawkins to be a good HoS. Definitely one of those that I can trust to not be shitcurity when I see them on.

[Chaznoodles]

I didn't say nice, I said good. They have no done anything wrong from an IC point of view. I have not once seen him do an arrest or a fine on an improper violation, nor mistreat prisoners. Whether or not they are nice in the process is irrelevant

 

As said, if you want details on the issues I've mentioned, in which this character is involved, you're free to PM me here or on Discord.

[Faris]

I'm impartial to the accused, but I want to speak about the name That keeps popping up, Raymond Hawkins. I've had nothing but good interactions with this character as they follow regulations and sop to the T. That includes the regulations and sop points that prevent to much chucklefucking in a round. We all want to have fun in the game but to much of it can lead to retarded rp. Hawkins helps put a stop to this and if players disagrees with it, then those players should look inward at their actions

So I think that the accused should leave this character out of their defense as it would make for a poor defense

 

Thanks for the recommendation, but just because the character's nice to some people, doesn't mean they're nice to others.

 

I'm always impartial with you, I'll even cite a character complaint as one, where I knew you were playing Fey but was still fair regardless to what you accuse me for in regard to my IAA investigation or when you hacked the autolathe, which let's be honest you really did, but I had no evidence of you doing it so I just put the case on ice. I really couldn't care less about your characters to actively want them removed from the round or to metagrudge you. This complaint is more to do with touching the fact you don't seem to accept the fact that for every action, there is a reaction. Being slanderous to the captain and refusing direct orders, then to escalate things to assault and resisting arrest, which ends up with Admins asking me why I had you detained because you "never" do anything wrong, and it's always the "toptier" security fault, which in some cases even result in an OOC comments about us. Words are words, so I'm going to add some photos.

http://imgur.com/a/Dpq9D In the link you'll find an imgur album with an assortment picture with related text

When I see Chaznoodles account on the forums, I assume it would be a player that is very well aware of how things are, instead all I've seen is a person that finds an excuse and blames other things over the consequences. Personally, instead of asking people to PM if they want details, I'd like you to post them here, as is the point of this thread, and if you truly have an issue with my behavior OOC'ly or IC'ly, I would like you to post a thread about it, as I trust the adminstration and the Duty Officers to be completely impartial and just in this. I would like to point out that in the last week or so, he's lost access to security jobs for week and had his whitelist for command removed due to different instances.

[Chaznoodles]

I'm always impartial with you

you don't seem to accept the fact that for every action, there is a reaction. Being slanderous to the captain and refusing direct orders, then to escalate things to assault and resisting arrest, which ends up with Admins asking me why I had you detained

 

For every action, there's a reaction, yes. At no time did I assault or resist arrest, I was only shaking someone up whom the cyborg kept flashing, which is neither of those. Good to see you check your accusations before pinning them on. During this round, you had me in Interrogation for twenty minutes, then wanted me in a cell for twenty more, for slander. See something wrong here?

 

http://imgur.com/a/Dpq9D In the link you'll find an imgur album with an assortment picture with related text

 

I'd like to direct you back to:

I'm always impartial with you

 

Seems you're not so impartial, as you've screenshotted all of that. Good to see you've cherrypicked bits and pieces, leaving out the bits where I made absolutely no attempt to hurt anyone, nor to cause any IC trouble. Those present can testify to me not actually doing anything at this time. You can't force people to do things, maybe when it was realised that literally the entire bar and the people in it didn't want to pay for drinks, you should've realised that people were roleplaying happily in the bar and backed down. I saw character stories being expanded on in the Bar and people building IC friendships, which was promptly shut down when Security rolled in to crash the party, as always.

 

When I see Chaznoodles account on the forums, I assume it would be a player that is very well aware of how things are, instead all I've seen is a person that finds an excuse and blames other things over the consequences.

 

I'm unsure where you're pulling this from, as I rarely post on the forums. Try not to make things up please.

 

Personally, instead of asking people to PM if they want details, I'd like you to post them here, as is the point of this thread, and if you truly have an issue with my behavior OOC'ly or IC'ly, I would like you to post a thread about it, as I trust the adminstration and the Duty Officers to be completely impartial and just in this. I would like to point out that in the last week or so, he's lost access to security jobs for week and had his whitelist for command removed due to different instances.

 

And I've said my point regarding the matter.

In the last week or so, I've lost access to Security roles, and my whitelist, both points of which are up for debate in respective threads as I feel they were wrongly removed. If you could stop trying to label me as a bad person and a troublemaker OOCly, that'd be great.

I'd also like to point out that, as soon as myself and Barcia's player bring up the issue of metagrudge to a staff member with evidence, this thread appears, made by the same people we made the metagrudge complaint against.

[MrGabol100]

First of all, I love when I get a serious complaint against me and no one bothers even giving me a PM

 

I've had some good interactions with Gabriel, he's fun to hang around as a mouse. Sometimes nice, sometimes not, but interested in RP either way.

I did once see him steal a medical voidsuit and a jetpack (as a bartender), and go hunting a group of escaped tajarans on the asteroid, by jumping into space. He was hilariously lucky to actually find them, and his plan went horribly wrong when he got beaten up 1v4, they stole his jetpack and threw him back into space. I'm not sure if it counts as validhunting since neither party was an antagonist, but it was wierd.

As for Chaz/woodrow, our interactions have been limited, but largely negative from what i can recall. I don't have much to say about him except i think he's kind of annoying.

I'd say failure to follow command orders is more of an IC issue, and a matter for CCIA

 

My plan on that was to get captured, because shit was badly going down in the station. The tajarans captured me, as I planned, but I slipped from who was pulling me into space as they said in OOC and the marooned me

 

I'm impartial to the accused, but I want to speak about the name That keeps popping up, Raymond Hawkins. I've had nothing but good interactions with this character as they follow regulations and sop to the T. That includes the regulations and sop points that prevent to much chucklefucking in a round. We all want to have fun in the game but to much of it can lead to retarded rp. Hawkins helps put a stop to this and if players disagrees with it, then those players should look inward at their actions

So I think that the accused should leave this character out of their defense as it would make for a poor defense

 

I don't think Ray is Bad, I never said anything about Ray, I've had IC issues, but on OOC I don't have anything against him.

What really bothers me, is the constant metagrudge against Chaznoodles from a lot of people, that eventually hits me for being a friend with this person both IC with this character and OOC.

If you have a dislike for chaznoodles and whatever he does, don't put it up on me, and obviously, if IC you're taking an action against him, don't get bothered OOC that I help him, because IC we're very good friends. Nor IC or OOC do I approve of the actions taken by the captain or security.

Specially when the detective was converting me to the cult over a rune, while I screamed for help, and Raymond as a non cultist just stood there watching me boil over the rune stuttering. On LOOC I was just trying to ask the captain player to stop that, and everyone jumped on me.

On UM's part, I don't know if you know the bullshit he pulls as "Drake Bond". After the HoS (I don't remember if it was Raymond), told him to free both of us, and I was personally freed by him, Drake Bond pulled Chaznoodles out of the chair in the makeshift brig and stomped on his head. After being freed again, he took chaznoodles out again and dislocated one of his legs. Then started complaining in OOC.

 

http://imgur.com/a/Dpq9D In the link you'll find an imgur album with an assortment picture with related text

 

Last three images, you do know I was talking about the CCIA message, right? Or you're just spurting shit because you're bored?

Youjustgotowened said that he told UM to stop posting that. Then someone posted it while UM was offline, with his character's CCIAA name on it.

Sidenote: From the OP, I love how you have nothing to say about me or my character, just generally shitting because I support chaz

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4O8Utm69kk8/VzYHWdb2WXI/AAAAAAAANcw/GMSv6Kj1ODkaxeE_t9JlM337dQpioitRwCLcB/s1600/emotic.png' alt='SIZE>'>

Edited August 18, 2016 by Guest

[hivefleetchicken]

With the 'for the players' bias that I always have aside, I still think Chaz and Gabol have done little wrong.

Their characters and OOC personalities CAN be distasteful and annoying, but they aren't always, not even half the time, and when they are it usually ends at a brief n-word or some other silly comment. It's really fucking petty, but I don't endorse them saying "nigger" in LOOC at all. They have natural hair colors, naturally formed tough mannerisms and behavior, and they're kind of in a gang but it's more of a brotherhood. Engineering is this except with lesbian cats and neon hair styles and distasteful Mafiosos. Research is this except with guns and lame nerds. Sec is this but with liggers and dick chicks. It's so vanilla and yet people seem really really against it in the case of Chaz and Gabol doing their thing.

As someone who has taken a personal interest in all this metagrudge shit because I hate cliques, I've thrown myself into the fray of what happens to this group a lot as a neutral agent to see what all the fuss is about. And these guys get in a lot of trouble, I've noticed, for things that other people face no consequences for. They renovated the bar yesterday and set up lamps made of kois with the permission of the heads of staff, gave assistants waiter outfits and made them bus boys, and set up a genuine restaurant, and, as if out of nowhere, every last member of sec bursted in, lethals in hand, to get them to stop... whatever sec's excuse was. I even had to get involved in this on their side because it annoyed the shit out of me to see sec so blatantly metagrudging these guys.

Chaz, you can be a tad bit abrasive with your cheekiness, and so can you, Gabol, with the lifeweb discord flavored annoyances. But I have no honest clue what you did to actually deserve what all this bs is, tbh.

They have been generalized as miscreants, it's painfully obvious, and I should also come forward and say that Hawkins is not helping it with his constant persecution and sec spam in the bar every time a table gets flipped. I've got some personal problems with him being a rambo in the past that I was told nothing would come out of if I elaborated by admins, so I'll merely say I think he's a poor HOS.

There is a metagrudge on Chaz and Gabol. It's very obvious at this point.

[Alberyk]

About the bar incident, the one with the refusal of charging by drinks, staff ruled as being an ic issue. Because;

1° The bartender and the others do answer to the captain, due to the chain of command, and the captain would be allowed to demand them to charge for drinks.

2° They refused, which is fine, and then insulted the head of staff, several times, which is also an infration in corporate regulations, and breaking them can carry ic consquences, being arrested in that case.

Also, security did not break into the bar with lethals, the only ones that had it was the detective, because now they are issued with lethal rounds at the start, besides the hos e-gun. Besides what happened in the bar, I don't recall anything else between Raymond and any of the other two characters.

[Chaznoodles]

Besides what happened in the bar, I don't recall anything else between Raymond and any of the other two characters.

 

Issue in the same round, where Raymond stood and completely ignored the cultist detective spamconverting Barcia right in front of his face, resulting in Barcia ending up in paincrit. He stood there for around 30-60 seconds, said what, then walked off.

Issue in a previous round, where Raymond attempted to have Mason and Barcia HuT for misuse of comms (If I remember), resulting in the aforementioned EVA incident where Drake Bond (UnknownMurder) dislocated Mason's leg and stamped on his face. Raymond did nothing about this. Serveris looked into this, as well as SirCatnip looking into Drake Bond attacking Mason onboard the transfer shuttle in the same round.

I'm sure there's more that I've overlooked.

 

Chaz, you can be a tad bit abrasive with your cheekiness, and so can you, Gabol, with the lifeweb discord flavored annoyances. But I have no honest clue what you did to actually deserve what all this bs is, tbh.

 

Cheers fam xoxoxoxo

[hivefleetchicken]

About the bar incident, the one with the refusal of charging by drinks, staff ruled as being an ic issue. Because;

1° The bartender and the others do answer to the captain, due to the chain of command, and the captain would be allowed to demand them to charge for drinks.

2° They refused, which is fine, and then insulted the head of staff, several times, which is also an infration in corporate regulations, and breaking them can carry ic consquences, being arrested in that case.

Also, security did not break into the bar with lethals, the only ones that had it was the detective, because now they are issued with lethal rounds at the start, besides the hos e-gun. Besides what happened in the bar, I don't recall anything else between Raymond and any of the other two characters.

 

Not that incident. I agree they were mean over comms in that one. That given, though, I was present when sec arrested them. Sec did nothing to read them their charges, just rushed in and started doing the whole 'COME PEACEFULLY OR BE BATONNED' routine.

I'm talking about a later round in the day when a whole group of about five people including Woodrow and Barcia decided to renovate the bar into a classy restaurant. They had the approval of the CE in doing so, and instead sec came in and rambo'd 'em. Sec harmbatonned without prejudice. Lethals were fired on crew when they resisted.

[sonicgotnuked]

I have seen multiple instances of them doing things, I have also seen one of them randomly decide to complain in LOOC that they have to pay RP money for a beer. I have also seem times where Raymond gets a warrant out for Chaz and the other one runs into sec to break Chaz out, then complains about meta grudge in LOOC and frankly, I am getting tired of the meta grudge accusations agenced every head of staff.

[Chaznoodles]

I have seen multiple instances of them doing things, I have also seen one of them randomly decide to complain in LOOC that they have to pay RP money for a beer. I have also seem times where Raymond gets a warrant out for Chaz and the other one runs into sec to break Chaz out, then complains about meta grudge in LOOC and frankly, I am getting tired of the meta grudge accusations agenced every head of staff.

 

Not once has Barcia 'ran into sec' to break me out, so that's a completely unfounded accusation, which I'd prefer you keep to yourself instead of attempting to paint us as bad players.

We also never complained about paying RP money for beer. We complained about the metagrudge Security stomping in and trying to arrest us all for chilling in the Bar. We also complained about people waving powerboners around for no reason.

[MrGabol100]

I have seen multiple instances of them doing things, I have also seen one of them randomly decide to complain in LOOC that they have to pay RP money for a beer. I have also seem times where Raymond gets a warrant out for Chaz and the other one runs into sec to break Chaz out, then complains about meta grudge in LOOC and frankly, I am getting tired of the meta grudge accusations agenced every head of staff.

 

Not once has Barcia 'ran into sec' to break me out, so that's a completely unfounded accusation, which I'd prefer you keep to yourself instead of attempting to paint us as bad players.

We also never complained about paying RP money for beer. We complained about the metagrudge Security stomping in and trying to arrest us all for chilling in the Bar. We also complained about people waving powerboners around for no reason.

 

I honestly would like it that was true, I'm awful at breaking people out of jail, last time I broke the brig's windows in rev they got everyone back inside in ten minutes )^=

[sonicgotnuked]

Alrighty, I am off my phone and I am going to be a little bit more clear because that came out a little more attacking then I meant it to be.

Not once has Barcia 'ran into sec' to break me out, so that's a completely unfounded accusation, which I'd prefer you keep to yourself instead of attempting to paint us as bad players.

 

Bob Thorton got a warrant on you for some reason like "Growing KOIS all over the ground" or some shit, I do not really remember. BUT I was doing the usual sec stuff, like searching you, and Gabe ran into the open doors of sec and started to drag you away, After I chased you two down and got you back I threw you into the communal brig. After a while you got a HuT after stabbing bob with a broken bottle when you had around 3-5 minutes left inside the brig and charged with attempt murder. You also where complaining in LOOC about the meta grudge and never took my advice on to put it up on the complaint forum.

I really do not know the OOC relations with raymond and you but I agree, this is a space station. Flipping tables for no reason what so ever will not get you hired for a space station.

Edited August 13, 2016 by Guest

[MrGabol100]

Alrighty, I am off my phone and I am going to be a little bit more clear because that came out a little more attacking then I meant it to be.

Not once has Barcia 'ran into sec' to break me out, so that's a completely unfounded accusation, which I'd prefer you keep to yourself instead of attempting to paint us as bad players.

 

Bob Thorton got a warrant on you for some reason like "Growing KOIS all over the ground" or some shit, I do not really remember. BUT I was doing the usual sec stuff, like searching you, and Gabe ran into the open doors of sec and started to drag you away, After I chased you two down and got you back I threw you into the communal brig. After a while you got a HuT after stabbing bob with a broken bottle when you had around 3-5 minutes left inside the brig and charged with attempt murder and got HuT. You also where complaining in LOOC about the meta grudge and never took my advice on to put it up on the complaint forum.

I really do not know the OOC relations with raymond and you but I agree, this is a space station. Flipping tables for no reason what so ever will not get you hired for a space station.

 

Hah-hah, what, I've literally never been in the Communal brig with mason, ever, not the two in the brig at the same time, literally ever.

Once we were in different cells, but that was the comms meme.

[Nanako]

I'm not willing to post the incidents related to metagrudge here, as the people involved will try and turn them on their head. If anyone wants to know about them, you're welcome to PM me here or on Discord.

This attitude is unbecoming, and inappropriate.

This is a player complaint, it is a public trial. and as such, is exactly the place to present evidence in your defense. Refusing to do so is both childish and self-destructive.

Admins can only really consider what is posted here, and the logs of relevant rounds. If you're sitting on something that provides evidence of your character, provide it here, where it can be disputed and discussed, not in a private place where you can twist things to your favor.

I'd like to ask, have IC resolutions to these issues been attempted? Has either been disciplined by CCIA?

[MrGabol100]

I'm not willing to post the incidents related to metagrudge here, as the people involved will try and turn them on their head. If anyone wants to know about them, you're welcome to PM me here or on Discord.

This attitude is unbecoming, and inappropriate.

This is a player complaint, it is a public trial. and as such, is exactly the place to present evidence in your defense. Refusing to do so is both childish and self-destructive.

Admins can only really consider what is posted here, and the logs of relevant rounds. If you're sitting on something that provides evidence of your character, provide it here, where it can be disputed and discussed, not in a private place where you can twist things to your favor.

I'd like to ask, have IC resolutions to these issues been attempted? Has either been disciplined by CCIA?

 

Tried to talk to CCIA, in the lack of IA, so it'd be a fax, or whatever, but rather bring the whole security team to the bar because the bartender doesn't want to charge for drinks.

[UnknownMurder]

Reminder: This is a complaint generally about Chaznoodles and MrGabol100's behaviors. I'm just going to shoot at the target accurately.

This is for you, Gabol.

 

Let's take a look at it closely.

 

Uncalled for.

 

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As for you, Chaz.

 

Sure, you didn't do nothing but complain LOOCly every time Security intervenes, there's more than what you did.

 

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I'm going to remain silent and let the staffs handle the complaint. I believe I made my points with evidences provided by a friend whom was annoyed like me as I've done for myself. Before you try to accuse me of meta-friend, I am not meta-friending.

[Faris]

Okay, I will try my best to answer all comments regarding my self in this read, for the sake of this being easy, I'll number my answer with the number of the post in this thread. For multi quoted posts, I'll post them alphabetically, since I've got no idea how to organize the quotes properly.

#11 - Chaznoodles

 

A) If I recall correctly, your charge wasn't just slander, with this being two days ago, I recall your sentence being a total of thirty minutes, I honestly do not believe you sat in that room for twenty minutes. As for your sentences, it was Assault, resisting arrest, slandering a head of staff and failure to follow orders, these charges total up to thirty minutes, if you truely believe I misjudged the time, I would like an admin to review the logs from when you were in the brig to when I commented it, I'm willing to concede this point to you if they find me in the wrong. I've even insured that everyone had company with them. I've spoken with Layla Starr, Yoiko Ali, and even yourself before Nar'Sie was summoned and we ended up fighting the spawned mobs.

B/C) I'm sorry that you see it that way, I just didn't see the need to put the entire combat log and the rest of it of the round. I'm aware that you personally did not want to hurt anyone, but the resultant fight changed the situation. IC'ly, if a Captain gives me a lawful order, I'm required to conduct it within the official capacity of a my role.

D) I'm referencing the age of your forum account with your OOC actions on the server

E) I understand, I'll keep those two points to those thread then. But regarding the fact that I label you as a "bad" person and a "trouble maker", this thread has been the only place where I placed these remarks.

 

#12 - MrGabol100

 

A)Not directed to me

B)I personally don't have a problem with your character either, my primary issue is that you brought the issue to OOC, as I find these accusations unpleasant, you seem like a good bartender and I've seen that you have good chemistry with the crew and good friendships with the others. Regarding the rune itself, I kept demanding him to move as IC'ly, was about to pepperspray him before he moved and I rushed you to medical, I couldn't pursue this further as Nar'sie got summoned

C)I apologize if that is the case, I'm going to verify with Owned regarding this and for the sake of transparency, keep the pictures but add a disclaimer to it if I was wrong.

 

#13 - hivefleetchicken

 

My input in this thread is more to do with the OOC nature of the players, if I had any issue with them IC'ly, I would draft an incident report but my issue with this as stated before is more to do with them continuesly bringing this issue to OOC. I am also sorry that you view my Character Raymond poorly, I actively try not to portray and I am always open for critique and criticism on how I conduct things.

 

#14 - Chaznoodles

 

A)I do not think I entirely ignored the situation, been a little slow, possibly, but I was escalating to the point of physically taking down the detective until he side stepped, and I rushed him to medical. I couldn't pursue the issue further because iirc when I returned with the Captain asking for Barcia, Nar'sie was summoned.

B) My memory is not entirely clear about this event as it was four days ago I believe? But I don't believe we intended to hold you until transfer, I personally arrested Barcia since he had a laser carbine and kept shooting himself in the foot which I believe was accident actually, but decided to release him and deal with the situation in Central, as I had higher priority things to do with the round being heist I believe.

 

#15 - hivefleetchicken

 

I don't believe I was related to this round at all, I had gone asleep by then, I do recall ghosting and having a look at a renovated bar in it's earlier staged, personally it had a nice look and fresh aesthetic to it.

 

#18 - Chaznoodles

 

I do not recall Barcia breaking into security for Mason either, at least not one I've been active in.

 

I just want to add that IC'ly and OOC'ly, I'm always open for dialogue, my discord is Aboshehab.