HunterRS Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 BYOND Key: (This is your Byond Login/Ckey) HunterRS Staff BYOND Key: (This is the Byond Login/Ckey of the staff member) OneOneThreeEight Game ID: (If applicable. Game ID of the round on which the incident took place. If you don't remember the exact one, then the round after or the round before works as well.) bNc-doex Reason for complaint: (State your reason for your complaint) General Disrespect to me and giving me an unfair warning. It started off as me being tator and I go, "Oh I'm going to put a pod down and see how people react that a ballistic pod landed in the station. I put in in departures, about 20 minutes into the round, so in no way was I stopping an escape. I activated it and later was then asked by 1138 about it, I said I wanted to let other people RP about why it landed, and to make sure not everyone is bored AF during the round, He said "middle of escape at the start of the round without adequate roleplay provocation besides "giving people something to do". This is no better than bombing for no reason." It was something to start the Roleplay, not hurt the crew. I then said in AOOC that I was going to leave and then 1138 then said "He is whining, please ignore him"<---- That right there was untrue and i was just telling my friends in AOOC that I am getting off. And to top it off, I have done this before where if I don't think a mod is explaining something in a way where I don't understand it, I will ask for an admin to explain it again, I asked 1138 about 3 times to do that, was ignored on the first two and finally noticed on the third, When I had to type it in all caps. I really don't think the warning was utterly needed, considering the fact that I have blow up the station with toxins bombs, then talked by Alb about what I was doing, then he said I was fine. How is 6 Big bombs not as worse as one small pod that as I saw, took about 10 minutes to repair. Evidence/logs/etc: Additional remarks: 1. I think 1138 is too aggressive and 2. I would like this warning off.
Scheveningen Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 Allow me to perform a step-by-step analysis of why I issued you the severe warning, not a ban, do note. The purchases. This is all you bought using your TC. The pod being dropped. Do note between the round starting and you dropping the pod, you did not speak once in IC chat. Also, one should note your insistent pinging of sonicgotnuked via discord. I think I might need to speak to someone else about that but I'll just leave that open ended here. The extent of the damage dealt by the ballistic drop-pod launched roundstart at the station: (addendum: this was post-departures atmosphere stabilizing) Alberyk will post the next set of logs shortly. I'll proceed with part three after he posts.
Alberyk Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 Logs of the pms between OneOneThreeEight and Hunterrs: OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): Why did you just drop a ballistic pod into departures within 15 minutes of the round starting? HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): TO give them something to do, it wasn't like, i'm going to destroy the station, more like, at least it's not when CT is called OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): That is not adequate reason for dropping the equivalent of a bomb nearby a main hallway at the beginning of the round. Do you not see the damage? It OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): Crap. Is right outside your department. HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): Yes I know, and AFAIK, they breach two floors HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): If this was was more destructive, this I guess it's randomized OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): 1 tile to the left and a lot of people could've died for no reason. HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): Well, I had to put it there OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): Had to? Do explain. HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): Has to be over an active wire or APC HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): Since Idk how to wire ic or oocky, I use APCs OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): OK but that doesn't change that your reasoning was, pardon the crassness, still pretty shitty. "To give engineering something to do" hardly qualifies as good as a reason as none. It doesn't further roleplay by doing that it just panicks people, gets engineers to fix it then you do nothing else because you just blew half your TC on nothing besides throwing a pod at the station. HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): And? the reason I try to start this stuff is because I let other people RP, becuase whenever I try, people valid hunt me and throw me in the brig for the whole round OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): None of that matters whatsoever. We're talking about throwing the equivalent of a bomb at the station for no reason. I'm going to review this with other staff for a bit. HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): it's not evne close to a bomb OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): Two pieces of advice. One, you don't have to say what you think all of the time. You can get in trouble for that if you do it for the wrong reasons. Two, don't just act on impulse because you've no idea how to spice up the round. Come on. Don't flick on antag if you don't have a general plan beforehand or if you're not that good at improvising plot on the spot. I'm issuing a warning under the circumstances regarding dropping the equivalent of a bomb on the station. And yes, a pod is basically a bomb. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284814198448586764/284821791770148864/unknown.png OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): It is larger than a bomb because the radius at which it gibs anyone underneath it is larger than a max cap. HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): A warning is total bullshit, i've done way worse and not got warned, I want to speak with someone higher HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): I have thrown 6 bombs on the station, and no warning, and this is a warning, please explain OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): Furthermore, any further associated shitflinging will warrant mutes from the appropriate channels. Further, trying to goad me or any of the rest of the staff will not end well for you. All staff decisions on server are final until appealed. Having done "worse" is a shitty excuse. You know better than to use that as one. HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): Shitflinging? I'm just saying what is going on, and what you will do HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): Again, I demand I speak to someone higher HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): I'm waiting HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): Okay, Ignore me, I'm taking this to the forums OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): By the way, if you want to speak to someone above me, you will need to use the appropriate channels after the round is done. OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): We don't do immediate interventions here. HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): No i don't you can get them on here, I've done it before HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): Just. Get. Me. an. Admin OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)->HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard): Staff above me involved have told me to tell you to take it to the proper channels. I'll get alberyk to tell you. HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): And I say, I want to talk to one of them HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)->OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing): Thanks for ruining my night, 1138
HunterRS Posted February 25, 2017 Author Posted February 25, 2017 I would like to point out one. Giving a ban other this? I've done way worse and havn't even gotten a warning. Also to note, Sonic and I are good friends, I wanted to tell him something. How does that have to do with anything in this situation? Again, this wasn't for me to RP with people, I was doing this so other people can RP, and I would like to ALSO point out that when I can at round end the station was in shambles, how is this a ban and that isn't Please explain how you thought I deserved a BAN over this.
Scheveningen Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 Part three, let's go. First off, yes, I know HTML blows. Fetching logs from my textport recording through the stellar 100% working byond feature is all I could do. Hunter, I know your spiel. Something happens, it doesn't go the way you want, you throw a fit, make yourself out to be a victim, and that's that. You know how many opportunities I could've seized in order to actually do something meaningful in keeping you off the server for how you responded to me in adminhelps? I asked - Constantly - If I could do something beyond warning you, because many of the things you said absolutely did warrant either a kick or a tempban from the server, and that's not including the ridiculous display with the drop-pod. Your attitude was absolutely ridiculous and uncalled for. Is, rather. There is not a day you take a fall on any of the server mediums where you don't go through all of the stages of grief in no particular order and then become doomed to repeat it again through some sick cycle enacted by Lucifer himself. But no, I tried to not actually ban you. Much as I believed the easy way in making you learn what isn't the right thing to do would be to immediately interrupt you from playing on the server... Might it be that it's actually quite effective altogether. It would be nice if you were predictable. I am sure others can see the irony in me saying this but this is simply coming from someone who will beat you with experience when it comes to attitude. I have whined more than you could possibly dream regarding the most asinine topics and people were made to wonder what the hell I even got up for in the morning. And experience is not always something to be proud of. Lord knows it's wisdom that tends to ring out. But on track here. You were not mature enough to keep your "teehee xD i got bwoinked over this petty crap that isnt worth my time" to yourself and be a good little citizen for as long as I was dealing with you. You took your shit into AOOC and made it everyone else's business. Bit of a drama queen, much? You turned into a massive asshole as soon as you saw you were being disciplined. You knew you had nothing to lose at that point so you flew off the fucking rails. No dignity or humility whatsoever. Then you went "Well sorry guys I guess I got a severe warning, the day is ruined, fuck that mod!!!"... ...I just didn't even know how to dignify your responses with an answer. Your mood being killed really killed it for me too. It stopped being a volunteer job and it became an immediate chore. Regardless, I chugged on and handled it. I should probably note, I never said you were whining, verbatim. I said you were being dramatic. Which was not unusual, you know the last 3-4 I'm sorry threads you posted? Yes. Dramatic. All of them. Except perhaps the first one. But maybe not, since you weren't being sincere as two to three similar threads followed it. The roleplay begins when the round begins. Not because you wewbombed an area with dangerous proximity to a primary hallway outlet. You can't be severely warned for dropping a highly destructive ballistic pod into departures if you actually think your plan through. You're also going to get an infobomb dropped on you. You're really not going to enjoy this complaint turnout. I sure as hell didn't when I flamed people over how a nuke round went over a year back.
Faris Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 So to start this off, I'll go with my opinion on the matter. This matter was dealt with the majority of staff present agreeing on the outcome, the rest were most likely AFK. Staff are not obliged to permit community members being aggressive with them, in my attempts to speaking with Hunter, they decided to be hostile with me on discord, which I will post at the end of this thread. I feel like this complaint is misplaced and the offender should understand what he did wrong and learn from it, as it was a warning rather than a ban. The following includes certain logs that were the prelude to the resulting damage sustained from the beacon HunterRS purchasing the beacon ADMIN LOG: HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard) used PDA-Edgar Dawnguard (Scientist) to buy Hacked Supply Beacon (DANGER!) (JMP) HunterRS talking about it prior to doing the deed “AOOC” HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): Sierra, you ready for something fun? HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): ready sierra? Thank You For Your Patronage Tau Ceti Rapid Fabrication priority supply request #1333-257 recieved. Shipment dispatched via ballistic supply pod for immediate delivery. Have a nice day. “AOOC” HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): have FUN! The aftermath ADMIN LOG: Explosion with size (11) in area Escape Shuttle Hallway (188,132,1) ADMIN LOG: oneonethreeeight/(Rachell Pershing) jumped to HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284814198448586764/284821791770148864/unknown.png My opinion on the matter before we spoke to HunterRS “MSAY” aboshehab/(John Doe)(JMP): It's not the issue of it being fixed, this could've killed aboshehab/(John Doe)(JMP): I'd give him a chat, find out what's going on. Admin conversation between 1138 and HunterRS OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: Why did you just drop a ballistic pod into departures within HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: TO give them something to do, it wasn't like, i'm going to destroy the station, more like, at least it's not when CT is called OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: That is not adequate reason for dropping the equivalent of a bomb nearby a main hallway at the beginning of the round. Do you not see the damage? It OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: Crap. Is right outside your department. HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Yes I know, and AFAIK, they breach two floors HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: If this was was more destructive, this I guess it's randomized OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: 1 tile to the left and a lot of people could've died for no reason. HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Well, I had to put it there OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: Had to? Do explain. HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Has to be over an active wire or APC HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Since Idk how to wire ic or oocky, I use APCs OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: OK but that doesn't change that your reasoning was, pardon the crassness, still pretty shitty. "To give engineering something to do" hardly qualifies as good as a reason as none. It doesn't further roleplay by doing that it just panicks people, gets engineers to fix it then you do nothing else because you just blew half your TC on nothing besides throwing a pod at the station. HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: And? the reason I try to start this stuff is because I let other people RP, becuase whenever I try, people valid hunt me and throw me in the brig for the whole round OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: None of that matters whatsoever. We're talking about throwing the equivalent of a bomb at the station for no reason. I'm going to review this with other staff for a bit. HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: it's not evne close to a bomb This decision was also not done by 1138 himself, other members of staff pitched in and were in agreement. I have a few more logs but I'm waiting for permission to post them for this spoiler oneonethreeeight/(Rachell Pershing)(JMP): Folks? Advice? aboshehab/(John Doe)(JMP): Well, a severe warning which can follow up with an antag ban seems alright oneonethreeeight/(Rachell Pershing)(JMP): I don't think I'm responsible enough to call for job-bans, though. But yeah, I dunno, lemme check this notes. aboshehab/(John Doe)(JMP): Advise him a bit for future cases helps oneonethreeeight/(Rachell Pershing)(JMP): He did this willfully, he just did it for... not a good reason. aboshehab/(John Doe)(JMP): He's used it before, from AOOC, he did it for the "lulz" oneonethreeeight/(Rachell Pershing)(JMP): It's not noted. oneonethreeeight/(Rachell Pershing)(JMP): So. Cannot use that as cause for a ban. oneonethreeeight/(Rachell Pershing)(JMP): So warning it is. Here Hunter takes the matter to AOOC HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): yet I was bwionked for what I did OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing)(JMP): You really want to take this out in AOOC? HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): I'm just saying what happened, Did I try to start anything? No Superiorform/(Derrick Campbell)(JMP): Hunter why was you bwoinked? HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): I would say, but Icky and oocky and the fact that 1138 will start bitching at me HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): so Admin PM’s resume after a discussion and AOOC arguement OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: Two pieces of advice. One, you don't have to say what you think all of the time. You can get in trouble for that if you do it for the wrong reasons. Two, don't just act on impulse because you've no idea how to spice up the round. Come on. Don't flick on antag if you don't have a general plan beforehand or if you're not that good at improvising plot on the spot. I'm issuing a warning under the circumstances regarding dropping the equivalent of a bomb on the station. And yes, a pod is basically a bomb. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284814198448586764/284821791770148864/unknown.png OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: It is larger than a bomb because the radius at which it gibs anyone underneath it is larger than a max cap. HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: A warning is total bullshit, i've done way worse and not got warned, I want to speak with someone higher HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: I have thrown 6 bombs on the station, and no warning, and this is a warning, please explain OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: Furthermore, any further associated shitflinging will warrant mutes from the appropriate channels. Further, trying to goad me or any of the rest of the staff will not end well for you. All staff decisions on server are final until appealed. Having done "worse" is a shitty excuse. You know better than to use that as one. HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Shitflinging? I'm just saying what is going on, and what you will do HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Again, I demand I speak to someone higher HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: I'm waiting Here is the warning being placed ADMIN LOG: OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing) has edited hunterrs's notes. ADMIN LOG: OneOneThreeEight/(Rachell Pershing) has warned hunterrs for: Severe Warning for dropping a drop-pod in the middle of escape at the start of the round without adequate roleplay provocation besides "giving people something to do". This is no better than bombing for no reason. In case you forgot what the pod explosion looks like, here's a reminder: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284814198448586764/284821791770148864/unknown.png. Admin PM’s continue HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Okay, Ignore me, I'm taking this to the forums OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: We don't do immediate interventions here. HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: No i don't you can get them on here, I've done it before HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Just. Get. Me. an. Admin HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): Well, I'm done OneOneThreeEight to HunterRS: Staff above me involved have told me to tell you to take it to the proper channels. I'll get alberyk to tell you. Here Hunter complains about the adminstrative action done HunterRS: well, fuck this server today Admin PM’s resume HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: And I say, I want to talk to one of them HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Thanks for ruining my night, 1138 HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): have fun guys, I'm leaving “More on OOC” By request of staff as I was the one mostly paying attention to this situation other than 1138, I intervened. to HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): Alright, how can I help you? [Player PM] HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): I said an Admin, anyway, if you guys are going to ignore my request More complaining HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): But turns out I get a warning for trying to start rp to HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): As the person that has been paying attention, you've got me. What can I help you with? [Player PM] HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): Nope, I'm done trying to talk to anyone, I'm taking this to the forums to HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): Alright, just so you're aware. All staff decisions are final, you may place a staff complaint for this if you disagree. [Player PM] HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): Yet I can't talk to someone higher up? Bullshit, to HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): The adminstrators request I intervene, if you have nothing to bring to me then I cannot do anything. You may place a staff complaint for this and I hope you have a pleasent day. [Player PM] HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): Well, you guys ruined my day, so yeah good day my ass This is the Discord discussion. HunterRS - Today at 8:44 AM ABO LOL 1138 WANTED TO BAN ME FOR EARILER AHAHAHAH Aboshehab - Today at 8:46 AM He did not want to ban you, he placed an observation that since you did not have any prior notes you didn't deserve the standard punishment of an antag ban. I need to note that you've been extremely aggressive to him and personally if you had ben aggressive to me in such a tone I may have given you a harsher punishment. HunterRS - Today at 8:46 AM Agressive? He was being biased Aboshehab - Today at 8:46 AM No he was not. This was a joint decision by all of staff. HunterRS - Today at 8:46 AM Yet You guys ignored my asking for an admin Aboshehab - Today at 8:47 AM Admins are not obligated to. HunterRS - Today at 8:47 AM I wasn't going to talk to biased mods Aboshehab - Today at 8:47 AM I'm withholding staff member names until they permit it, so this part is being censored. HunterRS - Today at 8:48 AM warning or SERVERE WARNING Aboshehab - Today at 8:48 AM aboshehab/(John Doe)(JMP): Well, a severe warning which can follow up with an antag ban seems alright HunterRS - Today at 8:48 AM Wow You backstabber Aboshehab - Today at 8:48 AM You got off light, since it was not intentional. HunterRS - Today at 8:48 AM Fuck all of you, you guys are just biased toward me I've done worse and gotten nothing you guys suck Aboshehab - Today at 8:49 AM If you're going to keep insulting me, I'm going to simply block you. HunterRS - Today at 8:49 AM I thought you were someone I can talk to But nope Aboshehab - Today at 8:49 AM I'm tired and stressed, this is not something I'd like to hear. HunterRS - Today at 8:49 AM Well I've done worse and alb has let me off Aboshehab - Today at 8:49 AM You've done worse yes, but with escalation and permission. HunterRS - Today at 8:49 AM Actaully no I blew up the station with little RP and I know but alb didn't seem like it was something worth a warning also Did I kill anyone? No did it take long to repair? No Did it cause RP Yes Aboshehab - Today at 8:51 AM You can decide how you can end this conversation. If you're going to be insulting, I'm not obligated to keep you unblocked. HunterRS - Today at 8:51 AM I'm not insulting Aboshehab - Today at 8:52 AM On good faith, I won't post what you said here. [This statement became irrelevant as he kept going on] HunterRS - Today at 8:52 AM I'm asking a question Aboshehab - Today at 8:52 AM HunterRS - Today at 8:48 AM Fuck all of you, you guys are just biased toward me I've done worse and gotten nothing you guys suck HunterRS - Today at 8:52 AM I'm asking a question not now Why was it bad? Aboshehab - Today at 8:53 AM It was done with no escalation, no proper purpose or objective. HunterRS - Today at 8:53 AM Done that before Aboshehab - Today at 8:53 AM One tile to the left, you'd have killed or badly hurt half the station. HunterRS - Today at 8:53 AM >proper Aboshehab - Today at 8:53 AM Then I'm suprised no one dealt with you. HunterRS - Today at 8:53 AM I wanted other people to talk about it because no one knew and I made sure no one would get hurt from it Also the explosion is randomized idk what it does Aboshehab - Today at 8:55 AM Do note you have a history of being insulting to staff. So keep that in mind. HunterRS - Today at 8:55 AM Due note that if you are going to hold that over my head for months upon months idk why I am here anyway your not answered the questions so goodbye Aboshehab - Today at 8:56 AM Alright, good bye. ClydeBOT - Today at 8:56 AM Your message could not be delivered because you don't share a server with the recipient or you disabled direct messages on your shared server, recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends, or you were blocked by the recipient.
Garnascus Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 I would like to point out one. Giving a ban other this? I've done way worse and havn't even gotten a warning. Also to note, Sonic and I are good friends, I wanted to tell him something. How does that have to do with anything in this situation? Again, this wasn't for me to RP with people, I was doing this so other people can RP, and I would like to ALSO point out that when I can at round end the station was in shambles, how is this a ban and that isn't Please explain how you thought I deserved a BAN over this. What you have to understand here is we are not omniscient. It is entirely possible you have done things that we should have banned/talked to you for. Thats on us though so its not your fault. The location you chose for this was pretty poor. You vented a significant area of the station for a pretty dull reason. I agree with the assessment of the staff on hand at the time. Your location could have been a lot better. Indeed it would have stopped this from being a problem in the first place. Your attitude at the time was also pretty uncalled for. Come on man, we are not out to get you.
Scheveningen Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 My only real regret is that I didn't go against other staff advisement and kick you as soon as I saw you stirring drama and... frankly, acting like a damn child and completely shitting on the rest of the team. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't have patience for the utter childishness that was displayed but the other members of the team insisted to give you a chance. They gave good reasons for it. I might be a trial but I am not without experience in dealing with problematic personalities like your own. Like I said, I will beat you with experience. Anyway, that's enough bullshit for the night, I think. I hope you have a good night and I await your response in the late afternoon when you've hopefully calmed down. hopefully.
HunterRS Posted February 25, 2017 Author Posted February 25, 2017 I would like to point out one. Giving a ban other this? I've done way worse and havn't even gotten a warning. Also to note, Sonic and I are good friends, I wanted to tell him something. How does that have to do with anything in this situation? Again, this wasn't for me to RP with people, I was doing this so other people can RP, and I would like to ALSO point out that when I can at round end the station was in shambles, how is this a ban and that isn't Please explain how you thought I deserved a BAN over this. What you have to understand here is we are not omniscient. It is entirely possible you have done things that we should have banned/talked to you for. Thats on us though so its not your fault. The location you chose for this was pretty poor. You vented a significant area of the station for a pretty dull reason. I agree with the assessment of the staff on hand at the time. Your location could have been a lot better. Indeed it would have stopped this from being a problem in the first place. Your attitude at the time was also pretty uncalled for. Come on man, we are not out to get you. Yet it always feels like it, I feel a strong bias that 1138 has aganist me due to the past. And the only reason I did it was because I knew it was easily fixable, the picture 1138 took was minutes after, and it was already fixed, if you really think I am in the wrong, then i really dont know who I can trust
HunterRS Posted February 25, 2017 Author Posted February 25, 2017 My only real regret is that I didn't go against other staff advisement and kick you as soon as I saw you stirring drama and... frankly, acting like a damn child and completely shitting on the rest of the team. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't have patience for the utter childishness that was displayed but the other members of the team insisted to give you a chance. They gave good reasons for it. I might be a trial but I am not without experience in dealing with problematic personalities like your own. Like I said, I will beat you with experience. Anyway, that's enough bullshit for the night, I think. I hope you have a good night and I await your response in the late afternoon when you've hopefully calmed down. hopefully. You are way to hostile on this, when her anyone says anything you shut them down, I didn't start any drama, all I said was i was leaving for the night, so if you want to say I am fucking starting drama, then stop lying, you always act like you are in charge around here, even before you were mod. Just because you are trial doesn't give you power, but since you are oh so might just give me a week ban, I'm done with dealing with you delta, you are biased toward me and I have disliked you since you have been an ass to everyone. You said i was whining In aooc when i wasnt, you lie and cheat. I'm tired of this
SierraKomodo Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 Again, this wasn't for me to RP with people, I was doing this so other people can RP, and I would like to ALSO point out that when I can at round end the station was in shambles, how is this a ban and that isn't Please explain how you thought I deserved a BAN over this. If you're referring to the supermatter being detonated at round end, that was my doing, after 2 hours of ECOM building up with various forms of 'malfunctioning'. I'd also gotten permission via ahelp before I made the SM explode. As a side note, the fact it somehow ended up in Atmos is still something myself and nobody else is able to explain. That was weird.
Scheveningen Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): I would say, but Icky and oocky and the fact that 1138 will start bitching at meHunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): so HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: A warning is total bullshit, i've done way worse and not got warned, I want to speak with someone higher HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: I have thrown 6 bombs on the station, and no warning, and this is a warning, please explain HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Shitflinging? I'm just saying what is going on, and what you will do HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Again, I demand I speak to someone higher HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: I'm waiting HunterRS: well, fuck this server today HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: And I say, I want to talk to one of them HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Thanks for ruining my night, 1138 HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): have fun guys, I'm leaving “More on OOC” [Player PM] HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): Yet I can't talk to someone higher up? Bullshit, And then after reading the discussion you and Aboshehab had in discord... You know what, you pose a very good question. Why did I not ban you? This is a server where people come to have fun. Not screw around and grief, but rather to roleplay out their stories together in a more station-focused story and see where the round goes by developing relationships with one another. This is a server with higher expectations of its players (and of course, of its staff as a result), and thus depending on the scenario we often need to make OOC consequence for rule violations and shit RP felt and near-real. I can say for certainty, with support of some of the staff, that I did my job correctly in this case. Whether I did enough to ensure you got the message, frankly, you did not. You just don't seem to understand what it means to be responsible, you cannot for the life of you be a humble person when it matters and you have absolutely no restraint whatsoever when you realize you get punished or put in a humiliating spot. You flew off the handle at almost everyone involved in this thread because they didn't agree with you and you accused them of being traitors out to get you. It is like looking at the spitting old image of my previous self that took everyone and everything seriously. It makes me physically ill to try to recall some of the most cringeworthy shit I I did and things I said. And it's really sad to see you do the equivalent of what I did and take a bimonthly fall down a flight of steps and blame it on the guard railing throwing off your balance. Some others don't agree with the method I take in doing things, but I understand the necessity for discipline in certain situations. Other staff members, perhaps they would've let you off with a note. But I know others that would've removed you on the spot as they are not tolerant of bullshit. I think you were lucky to get a warning because you definitely could've gotten worse as a punishment and you'd be really singing a different song. If another admin I know was on, you would have been bloody gone on their command.
HunterRS Posted February 25, 2017 Author Posted February 25, 2017 HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): I would say, but Icky and oocky and the fact that 1138 will start bitching at meHunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): so HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: A warning is total bullshit, i've done way worse and not got warned, I want to speak with someone higher HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: I have thrown 6 bombs on the station, and no warning, and this is a warning, please explain HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Shitflinging? I'm just saying what is going on, and what you will do HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Again, I demand I speak to someone higher HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: I'm waiting HunterRS: well, fuck this server today HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: And I say, I want to talk to one of them HunterRS to OneOneThreeEight: Thanks for ruining my night, 1138 HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(JMP): have fun guys, I'm leaving “More on OOC” [Player PM] HunterRS/(Edgar Dawnguard)(?): Yet I can't talk to someone higher up? Bullshit, And then after reading the discussion you and Aboshehab had in discord... You know what, you pose a very good question. Why did I not ban you? This is a server where people come to have fun. Not screw around and grief, but rather to roleplay out their stories together in a more station-focused story and see where the round goes by developing relationships with one another. This is a server with higher expectations of its players (and of course, of its staff as a result), and thus depending on the scenario we often need to make OOC consequence for rule violations and shit RP felt and near-real. I can say for certainty, with support of some of the staff, that I did my job correctly in this case. Whether I did enough to ensure you got the message, frankly, you did not. You just don't seem to understand what it means to be responsible, you cannot for the life of you be a humble person when it matters and you have absolutely no restraint whatsoever when you realize you get punished or put in a humiliating spot. You flew off the handle at almost everyone involved in this thread because they didn't agree with you and you accused them of being traitors out to get you. It is like looking at the spitting old image of my previous self that took everyone and everything seriously. It makes me physically ill to try to recall some of the most cringeworthy shit I I did and things I said. And it's really sad to see you do the equivalent of what I did and take a bimonthly fall down a flight of steps and blame it on the guard railing throwing off your balance. Some others don't agree with the method I take in doing things, but I understand the necessity for discipline in certain situations. Other staff members, perhaps they would've let you off with a note. But I know others that would've removed you on the spot as they are not tolerant of bullshit. I think you were lucky to get a warning because you definitely could've gotten worse as a punishment and you'd be really singing a different song. If another admin I know was on, you would have been bloody gone on their command. Here is a checklist for you. Did I kill anyone? No Did I cause a massive destruction of the station No Did I cause rp for other people and let them have fun Yes Ban me for what? Trying to start rp? That just shows that you take everything way to seriously, every little thing. By people talking about other servers to start a conversation and you shut them down, to completely ignore any requests. It's seems, bias
HunterRS Posted February 25, 2017 Author Posted February 25, 2017 Also, does no one not notice the disrespect that 1138 is throwing at me? Again how he is acting toward me
Scheveningen Posted February 25, 2017 Posted February 25, 2017 You're not going to get admin sympathy with the conspiracy theories. You're not going to get my sympathy for the gross amount of disrespect you showed Aboshehab and the amount of behind-the-scenes trashtalking you take part in to make yourself feel better. Respect is earned, not freely given. Stop acting like a child and I'll stop treating you like one. The warning sticks unless Garnascus changes his mind.
HunterRS Posted February 25, 2017 Author Posted February 25, 2017 You're not going to get admin sympathy with the conspiracy theories. You're not going to get my sympathy for the gross amount of disrespect you showed Aboshehab and the amount of behind-the-scenes trashtalking you take part in to make yourself feel better. Respect is earned, not freely given. Stop acting like a child and I'll stop treating you like one. The warning sticks unless Garnascus changes his mind. Your the one acting like a child, now treat me like a actually player or this will be more then a warning complaint and a disrespect complaint, because thats all you are giving me, and if you know me well, me saying to fuck off shouldn't be taken as much as you do, you shut down when anyone tries to talk. >gross amount It was one line, and you guys took it way to far. But if you guys want to completely insult me and then not care, you don't deserve to be on the staff team for all of your disrepect
Shadow Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 After careful evaluation by several staffmembers we came to the conclusion that Delta did nothing wrong. He was talked about posting memes on complaints and he will adjust his behavior accordingly. Complaint denied as per 27FEB17.
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