Scheveningen Posted April 29, 2018 Posted April 29, 2018 Better idea: Put working auto-turrets on the area above the AI core, make the area above the AI core unsimulated if you're lazy. Make those powergamers work for their chance to drop a tactical mech on the AI core.
Kaed Posted April 30, 2018 Posted April 30, 2018 Why is this such an issue that it deserves remapping? Why can't people just be ahelped and banned for dropping things on the AI? It sounds like this is exploiting a game mechanic. If that's the case, it needs to be dealt with in OOC punitive action for doing it. To be clear here, opening the roof of the AI core and dropping people or bombs in is to me roughly identical to using Telescience to accomplish the same thing. Having the know-how to do that and it being okay is something that needs to be determined on a case by case basis. Sometimes it's probably okay. (Personally I think that people usually are really unsporting and lazy about how they fight an AI, because it's not impossible to breach your way in normally with EMPs and weapons, just difficult. And yet things like this and emitter cheese are apparently the go-to for fighting a stationary opponent with strong defenses but no way to escape) But specifically opening the floor just above the AI's head so you can drop things on it until it dies from fall damage is plain and simple an exploit of game mechanics because there is no way the AI can react to it in a quick enough fashion to survive, and it requires no special IC knowledge to know how to dig a hole in the floor. Even with emitter cheese, you as the AI generally know it's coming, it requires engineers to justify the action happening, and it takes a very long time, so you can make plans. Try to get your borgs to save you or something before the lasers reach you, etc.
keinto Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 Why is this such an issue that it deserves remapping? Why can't people just be ahelped and banned for dropping things on the AI? Because it prevents it from happening in the future and ruining what could have turned out to be a great round. Ahelps don't matter when the deed was already done, and good luck getting everyone to void the powergaming incident and going back to before it happened. Leaving certain things solely to ahelps is like always leaving a car door unlocked with your belongings inside and never wanting to do anything about it until everything has already been stolen. Wouldn't you rather take the necessary steps to prevent the issue from happening in the first place or at least making it a lot harder to do?
Azande Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 Why not make the area above the AI core a ventilation shaft (lots of hot air for AI computers) and then that validates having it secured with a turret or two, and give it some fancy engineering tape or something so miners don't wander in to their deaths.
Kaed Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 I just don't like a room to exist solely for the purpose of preventing meta tactics. If there's some kind of room there it needs to have an actual in-game purpose.
DronzTheWolf Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 I rarely ever see AIs having their borgs and IPCs build new turrets. How about malfs start doing that instead of whining to mappers to put turrets here or there?
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