******Today at 6:07 PM
The previous Nanotrasen Artificial Intelligence personality received by the NSS Aurora has been dismantled after an oversight in the production of the new model. We apologize for any inconveniance this might have caused, however, Central Command has sent another model to fix the previous stated issues.
Any questions or concerns may be relayed to Central Command at the NTCC Odin.
As well as a little blurb under the first paragraph saying "Shits fixed, no problems at all from the old AI will be in this one" basicly.
The previous Nanotrasen Artificial Intelligence personality received by the NSS Aurora has been wiped after an oversight in the production of the new model. We apologize for any inconveniance this might have caused, however, Central Command has sent another AI personality to fix the previous stated issues. All issues with the former AI should be fixed within the new one uploaded, including any possible core-related issues. Any questions or concerns may be relayed to Central Command at the NTCC Odin.
this is the full one
[03:05:31] drwago -> dasfox: Got a sec?
[03:05:34] dasfox -> drwago: Sure.
[03:06:08] drwago -> dasfox: Did you order the CE to move down to the ai (CL) core to disable them?
[03:06:17] dasfox -> drwago: Yes.
[03:06:33] drwago -> dasfox: Why?
[03:10:06] dasfox -> drwago: Because disabling it's power is the safest way to guarantee it won't just turn the turrets on behind us when we go in to card it. The last AI (CL) killed people and almost killed me, and the way laws work it doesn't work through personalities, it works through machine. That's how it's always been. So I've played through the entire shift as suspicious of this new AI, and even the malf-borgs were acting off that were apparently lawed to it. I also got told by the antagonist the exact same thing I'd said earlier about it, as well as the other borg stating it was like the other one recently, which is the same conclusion I arrived to.
[03:10:37] dasfox -> drwago: I could have ordered an assault on the core, but I didn't want to just kill it.I wanted to disable and card it, and take it back to central and keep the core inactive.
[03:10:45] drwago -> dasfox: But central announced the AI (CL) was fixed with a working AI, what convinced you otherwise what its still broken
[03:11:01] dasfox -> drwago: And you can't fix hardware with software, Drago. That announcement *doesn't fit how it works.*
[03:11:14] drwago -> dasfox: Its not a hardware issue
[03:11:20] dasfox -> drwago: Oh yes, this personality suddenly repaired the damage law-board in the AI (CL) core. Yes, it is. Laws are loaded on the hardware.
[03:11:28] dasfox -> drwago: You can't law MMIs or Positronics.
[03:11:32] drwago -> dasfox: Malfunctioning laws are a software issue
[03:12:43] drwago -> dasfox: And yes you can law them
[03:15:27] dasfox -> drwago: No, you can't, because they *lose their laws* the second they exit a chassis or core. The laws are connected to the chassis, and to the core. Not to the personality. Beyond this, Drago, if me ordering an AI (CL) be disabled after the borgs were being strange and the /last AI/ nearly killed me is terrible, would you rather me walk somewhere and potentially risk the lives of my people against an AI that I didn't know was correctly lawed or not, as the borgs meant to be /connected/ to it were being overly aggressive?
[03:16:13] dasfox -> drwago: Would you rather me just let it sit and ignore the entire round of units misbehaving and going off that are meant to be linked to the AI, (CL) and so on?
[03:16:29] drwago -> dasfox: You are loyalty implanted, are you not?
[03:17:07] dasfox -> drwago: And the lives of my people and hte integrity of the intelligence were my top priorities during this order. Hence why I ordered it's power be shut down and not to *destroy it*. You can card a powered down intelligence.
[03:21:35] drwago -> dasfox: Why would you ignore Central command's claim that the AI (CL) is fixed and in working order?
[03:22:03] drwago -> dasfox: And apparantly,a intruder convinced command of this?
[03:24:17] dasfox -> drwago: No. The Intruder mirror'd exactly what I thought; that the AI (CL) was just being sneaky. I was going to do the order regardless, I got sidetracked and told to talk to them by my staff however. Also; if Central says something. Which goes strictly against everything that works and provides no legitimate evidence otherwise, and an AI is suddenly rebooting it's own cameras around me during my conversations, I'm pretty sure I'm able to be suspicious of something.
[03:26:16] drwago -> dasfox: But you still without much escalation or reason ended the AI's round, and went against what Centrals orders were
[03:38:09] dasfox -> drwago: Sent an ahelp after that: Okay, and? I'm a person, playing a person, with feelings and thoughts. The implant is not a mind control chip. Central's word is not law, and I will take splash for my decisions if they do not align with what they want. I do what I believe is best for the corporation, and in (?) that regard I did what I thought was best for my crew; keeping them safe from another AI (CL) who could plausibly kill them.
[03:39:19] drwago -> dasfox: But if you put aside the entire loyalty implant issue, you essentialy killed a new AI (CL) with no escalation
[03:40:59] dasfox -> drwago: It was not a 'new' AI. (CL) I did not do so instantly. This was well after an hour had passed and I had enough time to even think up a plan to nonlethally disable it for guaranteed secure transport. You seem to forget *power does not kill an AI*, (?) it disables them, and they can be carded, and when carded restored in (?) a terminal. This was my plan.
[03:41:24] dasfox -> drwago: I did not just do so with no escalation; the cyborgs that were LINKED to the AI (CL) were acting up. Not just Nanny-Bot who was unlinked.
[03:42:05] dasfox -> drwago: I will not just ignore nearly dying (?) to an AI (CL) because it's pleasant for the player who joined after if I believe they're still a threat. The announcement isn't a 'OKAY SORRY GUYS RESTART', it wasn't orders, it was a statement. A statement I deemed false.
[03:51:24] dasfox -> drwago: I don't mean to hurry you but I have things I need to run and do tonight, and I'd like to not disconnect in (?) the middle of an ahelp.
[03:52:49] drwago -> dasfox: After ccia sent the announcement, what did they do to warrant getting rid of the new ai (CL)
[03:56:09] drwago -> dasfox: Hello?
[03:56:39] dasfox -> drwago: Drago, the escalation had happened. Yonnimer (?) sent the announcement to 'explain away' the AI (CL) trying to kill people and give the new replacement an entrance for it to make clear it was someone else. I am RPing a person, a person who knows that laws are linked to the hardware of a machine. In (?) which I told the Chief Engineer earlier into the shift to check the AI (?) and never got a response back. As in, go in and do a reset, go in and check the core, make sure everything is as it should be. With no response back from this, I waited. And the cyborgs continued being rowdy and not listening to orders very well at all unless I basically gave them no other option but to. The ones that were linked to them, that is. Beyond that, the unlinked cyborg we didn't destroy who was just being a meme was unrionically listening to orders /better/. This was a problem. My solution was to card the AI via disabling it's power, and re-enable it. That was how it went down.
[03:58:11] dasfox -> drwago: I was not going to risk personnel to just waltz into the core room and try carding an AI. (CL) Because in (?) the end if it doesn't work, that man or woman is dead. It is not in the crew's best interest for me to do so. I gave an order to keep the safety of my crew as safe as they could be, and to keep the AI (?) as in-one-piece as it can be.
[03:58:46] dasfox -> drwago: My other option was just to kill it. Destroy it. Let the intruder take it in (?) it's suit. None of these are good options.
[03:59:47] drwago -> dasfox: Ok but to echo what I was discussing with another staff member, the reasoning all above doesnt matter in (?) that, it was clear a admin added a new AI (CL) and you immeditly went to card them or "Deal with them" for actions the other ai (?) did
[04:00:48] drwago -> dasfox: Do you see why thats really awful to do and destroys any enjoyment or ability for them to tell a story?
[04:05:30] dasfox -> drwago: Drago, I gave them an hour and a half before ordering anything beyond a reset and a general look-around-the-core. I was not going out of my way to fuck a person's round. Shadow cna complain as much as he wants, I did not once go out of my way to ruin his round as the Malf AI. (CL) He even accepted to take a look around. The CE didn't do it. I was never told why, how, when, where, what. Nothing. So in (?) the end I took the action into my hands after I had watched cyborgs drag beaten down men to security, to order it. And I watched them do it again, immediately after I left. I watched broken cameras be repaired on their own. I did not do this simply because I could, Drago. I did not move to 'deal with them' at all. I moved to secure them. They can tell a story, they had the ability to send more announcements, to give RP about it instead of just letting their cyborgs faff about and make me even more suspicious. They could have told me, quite literally, anything beyond 'OH NO IM 100% OKAY' when their linked cyborgs clea
[04:05:40] dasfox -> drwago: -rly were not acting in (?) this way.
[04:06:40] dasfox -> drwago: If I /did/ do that, yes. I'd understand it'd be a shitty thing to do. But I never once did.
[04:07:27] drwago -> dasfox: But this was a new AI, (CL) why would you punish it for the acts of the other ai? (?)
[04:11:09] dasfox -> drwago: Me asking a lawed AI (CL) to be checked is not a punishment. that is my prerogative as a captain (?) of a vessel. If I feel it needs to be checked, for any reason, I can and am at my authority to order it. New AI (?) or not. So I did. I did not punish it for these acts. If the cyborgs began acting any differently than they did under the command of the other AI, this was not a punishment. I did not punish the AI for actions of another, I gave an order to disable and secure (and not kill, which would be punishing it) the AI to guarantee it to work exactly as it says it is. This could have been done earlier in (?) the round without the use of a card at all. I literally just wanted him to look around the AI core to make sure nothing was out of place, and do a law reset to make absolutely certain.
[04:12:22] drwago -> dasfox: But it was a new AI, (CL) they did nothing to even warrant that it would still be malf and the CE and others agreed when I asked them
[04:14:51] drwago -> dasfox: To wrap this up, im applying a 3 week ban for validhunting. This was really generaly shity behavior that was in (?) very poor taste and you have been warned multiple times in the past week about this type of validhunting behavior. You may appeal on the forums or make a complaint
[04:15:31] dasfox -> drwago: >warned multiple times for validhunting. Now I haven't been, but alright. Whatever, sure. My warnings are for doing something during an ahelp, and a minor warning for marking my targets the wrong way. But alright.
[04:16:07] dasfox -> drwago: Just fucking apply it so I can go about my night please.
[03:25:01] drwago -> *****: Got a sec?
[03:25:06] ***** -> drwago: Shoot
[03:25:25] drwago -> *****: Did you suggest/imply to the captain about the ai (CL) being malf still
[03:26:00] ***** -> drwago: The announcement I saw implied they were replaced with another malf. Also, I was trying to kill the AI (CL) regardless.
[03:26:05] *****-> drwago: Well, kill or capture.
[03:26:55] ****** -> drwago: I did imply that it was still malfunctioning to the captain and to, like, the entire crew, but I did it to try and convince them to let me into the core to intellicard it.
[03:27:28] drwago -> ******: thank you
I initialy set the ban to three weeks yes, because I did not feel perma banning you was proper for fitting of what happened, I was informed we do not ban people for longer then a week but less then a perma so i lowered it to one week and was told that if you are punished then your whitelist was going to be stripped since you have already been showing poor roleplay as command so I had little to nothing to do with the whitelist strip, but to discuss the issue.
I have no issue with you, no issue with you as a person or hold any grudges, why you blocked me on discord or such is really unknown to me or why you generally dislike me, however in this decision making of this situation I was not alone in deciding it and went to multiple other people to get there opinion as I did not want to make a opinion alone, these people including Garn, Alb and Paradox who all agreed this was really really utter shit to do, aswell as contacting the CE player who contradicted things you claimed as the new AI had not escalated at all.
You went out of you're way to ruin somebodys round for the mistakes of the malf before a new one was admin bussed in, and in all honesty, that ruins every single spirit of fun of the game to actively shit down on somebody with no escalation. I do not feel a need to post further here as its quite plainly cut out, that this was really not cool and really clearly validhunting.