Killerhurtz

Ehh honestly, if you're an antag and want a self-portable explosive device, you can hack your way into chemistry/the research outpost and make yourself a way more potent potassum bomb (or several of them if you really want to take a chunk of station out)

SO MUCH YES @PC_LOAD_LETTER and fax forging. I mean - RP Rev already STARTS because of a forged fax, why now allow all emag-accessible antags that option for maximum chaos?

IIRC the logic behind it was not specifically that limbs could be damaged - it was that they housed fragile servos and circuitry to CONTROL them, and that's why IPCs don't paincrit - by damaging them, you're not damaging the actual limb, you're damaging the circuitry and components to operate them. Read the thread. It was taken into consideration, and discussed very thoroughly - it is a core thought in the modifications, that IPCs should be nerfed without being resprited organics. It's also why they have a lot less organs, and organs with a different purpose (they still have no blood, I think? and their 'heart', the cooling unit, does NOT kill an IPC - it merely keeps them cool (and so damaging them makes them slowly overheat, and destroying it makes it akin to being in the vacuum). And so, an IPC in a properly-cooled room (like the server room) MIGHT just be able to survive. Direct servo organs were ruled out. Eyes were added because it's the only reason why IPCs were immune to flashing. Internal storage was added to explain the mechanical quirk of IPCs being walking beakers. Coolant was not implemented yet, and as said, the radiator behaves entirely differently from organics - and, overall, that's the main difference between an IPC and an organic. Take out all of an IPC's organs, and it can still survive with the proper conditions. Take out an organics' organ, and they're dead right where they stand. And the EMP damage is being considered, as per the patch notes - because right now, IPCS are indeed a lil' bit squishy, since they lost their brute and haloss resistance and gained organs. But it's still a WIP. And guess what? IPC self-repair MIGHT just be coming back, because the GOAL of the IPC changes was to nerf it enough to make it worth considering adding things, like self-repair and the IPC equivalent of genetics, without making IPCs even more OP than they already are. IPCs are changing, and things might just get better. Honestly? You're entirely right. Being flash-resistant with a massive brute damage resistance, it made sense balance-wise to make IPCs unable to self-repair without nanopaste. But as I said, things are changing - and it might come back to the table at some point.

That's... impressive, actually. But yeah - as I said, it's a very experimental change, and prone to being altered.

Go ahead and archive it. Funny as it seems, I've gotten better insight of this because of another very similar (in my eyes) incident with ME as the target instead, and I fully understand Rusty's side now. I henceforth withdraw my complaint.

So. Let me get this straight. You're complaining because as a Head I didn't follow what you EXPECTED a head to be?

Yeah that I thought was implied. I meant it as 'only non-antags'

OK LET'S GET THINGS SORTED FOLKS First, the damage modifier. Pull request notes says that we'll see how it goes. It means it's not permanent. It may be reinstated. Second, the chemical storage. Yes, people DO use IPCs as walking beakers for a variety of reasons (one of them being their unparalleled carry capacity - even a medic with a full toolbelt of cryobeakers couldn't carry around the same amount as an IPC, and there's the fact that they can react so a particularly shifty IPC can easily stuff themselves with reactant and carry one or two syringes and be walking flashbombs or smokebombs for a quick escape and so on). It was placed in the groin because logically speaking that's where it'd go - I mean, there's the radiator in the chest that takes a lot of space... And groin generally delimits lower-organs. I mean - for humans, don't they extract the liver and kidneys through the groin? Yet they're pretty high up. But yeah - it's only a location, as well. The chemical storage is only available through syringes (used on any limb). It's not some magic healing/sleep pelvic thrust. If anything, it's closer to a blood bag that can't be hooked to an IV. AND they break if any form of acid (and maybe some other chemicals I'd need to double check) enter it, which means there's a whole slew of chemical concoctions that are off limit. It's the main goal of that organ, really - IPCs could be walking acidsmoke bombs before. Not anymore. And if an IPC is being particularly dickish, they don't need the tank to live - so they could be mandated a removal without a single issue. And third: this is all a work in progress, as the notes said. EMP damage may be tweaked to be lesser, the brute modifier may be reinstated (full or reduced), and there may be changes here and there. It's tentative. As for the vending machines - has anyone ever seen them do that much damage? (and the 0.6 thing is a reasonable worry... until you remember that IPCs don't paincrit - so aiming for the arms is as viable as aiming for the chest on organics. Because if you aim for the chest, or legs, or head on an IPC, it won't do JACK DIDDLY SHIT. Hell, if you aim at the head, you might even make them unkillable by decapitating them) For a full log of the process, so far, there's this thread right here. Any other questions?

THAT I CAN DO Qwerty: Grease Monkey: C'mon, he's a roboticist. A robot roboticist. Unexplained Accent: I still have no idea what accent Qwerty has, or why exactly does he have it. It wouldn't be Qwerty otherwise, though, so it's all good. Basso Profundo: How I picture Qwerty sounds. The Fool: It feels, to me, that Qwerty has very little reason to bother about anything beyond his work as long as he can do it. Eric Derringer: You Look Familiar: You damn know why. Shell-Shocked Veteran: Again, you know why. You can say it if you want, but I have the habit of segregating IC storytelling with OOC storytelling. Dad the Veteran: I don't REMEMBER it ever happening, but I get the feel it will/has without me knowing. The Good King: Derringer best and nicest captain. I'm Not Doing That Again: In regards to his past. Blank Stare: Pretty much what I picture happened that one time in Science. Crack! Oh my back! and Feeling Their Age: I mean, he DOES need his cane to walk, basically...

I approve of the changing examines. ESPECIALLY the one referring to the mathematical theorem. But yeah no, Konfliqt - mass-graffiti is already a reason enough to investigate. I'll make a list, later, of examines that could be found. ...IDEA. Since AIs/lawbound synthetics are, in no way, involved with Cults, have THEM be the only ones who can see that they are, in fact, glowing blood runes. Lore-wise, everything with a proper sapience is affected by the magics emanating from them, resulting in the various results. Cue hilarity when AI and cyborgs start talking about bloody, glowing, menacing runes when other people just see insignificant things.

DID SOMEONE SAY SCIENCE? I think I heard Science (I approve of Skull's idea. Two micro-manipulators, one surgical tube, one syringe later... BAM. Two-headed pump IV.)

Sounds like shield generators need fixing then. It makes more sense to have almost-freakishly small spaces on a space station than it does having 2m maintenance hallways.

The air code considers each tile to be 2500L of air. 1l is 1000ml, and IIRC 1ml is 1cm^3. Which means each room would be 2500000cm^3 - a room 100x100x250cm, so yes on a 2D plane, a 1x1 square. (Also the maintenance hallways are panic-inducingly small) Which means, according to your numbers, it should be ~4 tiles instant takedown and ~8-10 tiles terminus. Isn't that what the flashbangs currently are? (also if each tile was 200cm, the ceiling would need to be 62 cm high - who wants to crawl?)

I would but I'm not sure I know them enough.

I blame TV for portraying 90% of the medical roles as erotism-central

yes (Seriously though - no questions asked, 1138 is what I consider to be one of the core players of the server. Awesome characters from an awesome player. Having them play a Tajara might just improve everything ever)

I'll be honest, I still don't know what exactly you're trying to say, or what I should have done different. You're not angry THAT you died, just of the circumstances? Why?

As everyone said, (and I think it's been suggested in the past), I like the secret-or-extended duality.

I'd approve of this, but this machine would be needed in several other locations: -One in Xenobio so that we don't have to harvest monkey corpses for their blood -One at the Research outpost so that we can do experiments involving blood without having to harvest monkey corpses for blood -One in Chemistry so that they can make ethically-uncontestable synthmeat Also, just for future reference: that emagged effect? There's two things completely wrong with that: if they BLENDED blood types, it should return 'bag of congealed blood'. Look it up - that's what happens when blood types mix. And disregarding that - if they somehow cohabitated all blood types, type AB+ would be the blood type that wouldn't get poisoned. Personally, I'd say that when emagged, it produces monkey/mouse/faera/xeno blood. Something ENTIRELY incompatible, if not downright dangerous, to players. Or slime toxin. Or just HIGHLY radioactive blood. Or moldy blood? Also, Skull - first, I don't know if it's possible to change the blood-type of a subject via genetics (and if it is, I'm 90% certain that it would kill the subject due to filled with 100% of the wrong blood type). Second, 90% of the time, protohumans are irradiated because of research. And third, geneticists would be bothered by having to deal with medical beyond basic cloning (if they even cooperate, IF they're also not too busy injecting themselves with all of the genemods)

Honestly - that only applies to when shit hits the fan. I say increase the medical timer and add one or two extra surgery rooms.

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And yet my question goes unanswered. Give me an example of a reasonable permablock? I disagree with a permablock simply on the principle that if somebody would need to be permablocked, they'd also need to be banned as per the "don't be a dick" rule.

+1. Well-written out application, and I LOVE the explanations for RPing and what's it like to be a head of staff. I get the feel they will be an excellent RD, especially with that mindset. I'm excited.

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