Killerhurtz

My side of the story: SO. I join at around the 2 hour mark. Big news, the AI had a happiness law, and there were unknown lifeforms so a First Contact protocol was active. Sybil gets called into her department because there was "someone screaming, and the detective". So she goes in - and get the PDA passcode from her office (because there was a borg, and in an extended, canon round Sybil saw several times the AI use the borg to acquire the passcode from the paper because she was busy and so she always was wary of this situation). She happen to meet the third problem - the detective and the librarian - on her way to the server room to change the passcode. They talk - the librarian seems to just want to get away from the detective. So Sybil says one moment, and slips into the server room to secure it with a new password (because she felt it was more urgent). Karina, the librarian, slips in with her, and the door closes - and at that point she decides not to stop her because she might have wanted to say something - and so she did. Karina didn't trust the Detective - she thought he was part of a cult that had marked her for death - and as said also mentioned a club. And since the detective WAS indeed acting a bit odd (and Sybil had a quick glance at the PDA message logs - there was a bit of wierdness here and there that correlated with Karina's story of a cult), she made some excuse to keep her in - all while mentioning that the detective had neither an arrest or interrogation warrant, it wasn't code blue AND that he presented no evidence as to her interaction with the cult, before ordering him out of the department. By then, the second 'Ling (described simply as 'alien organism' on the comms) was at the bridge - and since Sybil was RD, it was her role to establish first contact proper. And so, after leaving Karina with Zairjah - a trusted scientist - Sybil left for the bridge. Upon arrival, he was there - and so was Joyce Emii, the CMO, who had been handling the situation thus far. We meet them, and we get acquainted - the alien lifeform (speaking in an alien voice) said it trusted Sybil, and Sybil trusted the lifeform for two reasons, at that point: one, Joyce had spent considerable amount of time with him and was not harmed at all, and two, they didn't even hide that they weren't human. And so Joyce left to take care of CMO duties. Sybil and the Ling talked for a while - he opened up to everything, how his species hunted organics, and how HE hunted other of his own species. How they were pretty much invulnerable save for highly damaging stuff and their own species. Nothing was hidden. Every single strong and weak point given. And since he did seem, at that point, COMPLETELY cooperative, open and non-hostile, and the detective was acting strange in Sybil's opinion, she agreed to hatch schemes to physically restrain the detective. At that point, something happened in Atmospherics, which the 'ling needed to respond. Sybil went back to her department, told Karina the news - and in the meanwhile, the detective apparently found that cargo in the library (which isn't that big of a crime). The security officer Ling disapproved, and contacted me with instructions - Sybil told them to remind the detective that they couldn't arrest people without a warrant or evidence (not knowing that was what happened) and to contact her if things got worse. After that point, Sybil talked a bit to Karina - trying to get her to hand over the protopistol Zairjah made for her defense - before Sybil got called to the brig. Next thing she knows, the detective is cuffed and on a chair. Because of her knowledge of what they were, and the earlier agreement, Sybil started browsing the legal book for the crimes possibly committed and how to get the detective into, preferably, isolation so that Ahren could peacefully consume (after 'injecting him with psychoactive stuff' - which Sybil dismissed), but before it could occur, Ahren moved on and started killing the detective. Sybil did not interfere for three main reasons - one, it was part of the agreement. Second, even if she wanted to, she didn't know how to. And third, they were in processing - Sybil, being RD, couldn't stop it because she didn't have access. Shortly afterwards, a Head of Security came aboard. Sybil gave a full report to the extent of her knowledge, before asking if she could take the body for a dissection. The Head of Security approved of the situation, not even acting against the 'unknown alien' security officer which did the deed, and allowed Sybil to take the body (that is before griefers set the station full of plasma). So, from my point of view - things escalated the way it did because Evandorf was the least subtle ling I've ever seen (and that's saying something considering that he is considered less subtle than a ling who actually told us they weren't human. They made it clear they were stalking a prey, and their opponent played it against them. As a side note, the player afterwards did not stop complaining about it, to the point of being annoying - and when the plasma fire came to departures, by accident, he wished death upon 'all of the murderers' in there. It seems, to me, it is a case of a ling gone wrong - and as he stated himself, he is very salty of it.

Skull, there is - there ARE a few mobs that could be not-disabled without stun (most notably IPCs which have no paincrit, probably 'lings too, tempted to say wizards and dionea and armored personnel). It's not necessarily a one-hit disable. It's a one-hit disable on the standard reference human (maybe with armor piercing - but that's just because of my own opinion where a research station SHOULD be unable to order military-grade weapons to deal with armored targets). Though the point about cooperation is very true - when seen it that light, it would most certainly be a good thing to require several people to coordinate for that, and I hadn't thought about it. So it could go either way, really. Make the sniper a less powerful weapon to encourage teamwork, or make it a more damaging but less stunning weapon that has consequences.

It's a good idea.

I'd find this to be interesting. Especially if Elizabeth lays it laying on tables like a real engineer so that people can actually interact with it. But regardless, just having a message that she's drinking from it (maybe have a % chance of happening to avoid spam) could spark some interesting RP.

I personally see no reason why this should be approved. What does this add to the RP of your character beyond "lol got some special booze"? Plus from a lore point of view, it makes no sense - it would be too easy to hide stuff in it. I mean - look at the US' TSA guidelines, minus actual gear (engineers get to bring approved tools, medics a medkit and a penlight, etc) and you get an idea of what would be allowed. Because unless it was emptied and refilled at each shift, Central would have no idea whether you're bringing sake or drugs or warlock or even liquid explosives or thermite. An empty, flask-like Messa's Bounty item MIGHT pass - even though it would probably provide very little RP opportunity. Most likely, I'd say that the best Messa's Bounty item Miko could bring is a Messa's Bounty glass set that they could serve people with. (Also, 'sponsors high within NT' is the worst reason you could ever come up with. Everyone who tries to get shit by for very little reasons pull that. In that regards, I feel it's like the employment status comment - you're only dodging the rules if you're a member of, or married to a member of the Board. And you're not.)

Yeah there's one thing though As mentioned, Cargo often has a HUGE amount of cargo points. Which means that if we nerf the snipers, you just KNOW that the players will adapt by realizing that - it might last for about a week, and after that, players will just order two snipers and have two people sniping to stun-lock antags. If anything, snipers need to completely remove stun while adding massive amounts of damage - so that it can easily tear off limbs and send people into paincrit. I mean - I don't know about you, guys, but I don't remember the last time a sniper was used to not-kill. Make it have weight - make players realize that snipers are not convenient toys, and that they should be used only in the most dire of circumstances. Make players realize that snipers are when you REALLY need something dead and there's no other option. Sort of akin to how powerful a protopistol can be - but ballistic instead of laser. (Also, adding lore that makes security require post-operation paperwork for having ordered and fired a sniper, and having DO's or some other authority actually follow up on these, would curb sniper abuse)

Yeah no NBielinski, what Baddie said in regards of backlog is not pressure going backwards - it's that a pump is ALWAYS driven to increase pressure on one side until it either cannot or has reached it's target, while a valve simply allows, or not, the distribution of pressure - and that's brilliant.

Okay, Furry - let's establish this. If you get your ideas from a previous thread, you post in that thread. That was actually an idea I posted in there. (Though I like the "capture/hug" aspect of it)

Just had the honor to play with this player. I give him all of my approval. He's awesome.

I rate this application 10/yes give this player an IPC Empress one of the three best AI's I've seent

YEAH that should be fixed - any devs can pitch in on this?

all of my yes

I thought it was fairly obvious but yeah, for clarity's sake, I accept both conditions.

Swearing code? Are you referring to the unfortunate incident where... *some* (XP) AI turned on a censor filter that made Unathi sound positively hilarious?

Bump?

Double post!

I say give them another spell if they take the original, because if we make it a side effect of that spell (UNLESS on casting we give them a choice box of either adding or removing masks), there's going to be side effects like a random stranger gaining the mask on removal. But yes - let's do this.

Sounds about right to me.

or give Science the parts to make a homicidal one

guys guys listen guys it might be hard to do but what if Cratey had a % chance of spawning every round and when it's spawning it would be as a random crate on the station instead of security (maybe only during antag rounds) to add some spice to the station? You'd never know when Cratey could strike one round BAM a miner is missing a leg another BAM a scientist is missing an arm another BAM three dead cargo workers in the storage room another Beepsky mysteriously disappears in maintentance (does beepsky even do maintenance) and then the worst happens cratey AND radstorm suddenly there's six people being violently mauled to death by a chest because they didn't want to die of rad poisoning or guys make it an event like ion except that one crate aboard the station randomly becomes Cratey, or Cratey randomly spawns somewhere (like the spider event) cratey the terror of Aurora

For reference - if Sybil COULD create killer crate bots, she would. Bring Back Cratey.

All good, I know how it can be. I'm really excited though.

ALL OF MY YES I was waiting for something like that to happen ever since I read your guide on being a custodial engineer. Hell - I want this so much that tonight I'll have a shot at spriting it.

So he's still a criminal?