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It would be as simple as adding the restrictions present on security uniforms to wildlands flagpatches. In regards to an SSMD affiliate being promoted, I didn't mention it in the post (because she's unavailable), but I asked Read specifically if I could make Kira a HOS after I played her for a year straight with next to no breaks. She said yes, followed up with me after the fact to say yes again, and that was the end of it. Loadout items that can be used openly by anyone, or even just anyone part of a specific faction, should be very clear in telling you who is and isn't allowed to use it if there happens to be actual IC justification for such a thing, which is why role restricted items exist. I bring up again that I had no way of knowing this was a no-go back when Kira took the flagpatch as a warden (and prior to the PR implementing them, I used a custom flagpatch), and with the existence of the above examples of otherwise "hostile" groups' paraphernalia and members being allowed into command, I submit that it's unreasonable to limit this one thing when there are far more egregious cases ICly and OOCly (and how odd it is to not limit wardens, who have a lot of mechanical overlap with the HOS role, but that's neither here nor there). If the loadout item isn't allowed to be used by certain roles or demographics, it should be reflected in code like every other restricted item (see: Imperial outfits, faction gear, augments) or else you run the risk of cases like this where people like me are completely blindsided.

BYOND Key: Dessysalta Staff BYOND Key: MattAtlas Game ID: N/A Reason for complaint: I was told that Kira Vasquez, my HOS, can't wear the SSMD flagpatch she's been wearing for over a year and a half total, and as a HOS for 5 months, because it's "anti-corporate." I don't agree with or understand this ruling because not only did I have no way of knowing this (see: the loadout doesn't restrict it from HOS), but this would imply that the SCC knowingly and charitably promoted an SSMD affiliate and Sol patriot into a command position. It's no secret that Kira is a Solarian-aligned individual and moreover that she's ex-SSMD. She has fought and nearly died countless times for the Conglomerate, in particular she lost an actual leg to the Exclusionists attack and was given enough pay/had enough stockpiled to purchase a vatgrown limb. My SSMD custom item application not withstanding (I get that it's military-adjacent and understand that it's overkill to the Conglomerate), this doesn't make any sense. I think: Sol actively invaded Biesel, and their diplomats are banned from making appearances on the Horizon, plus the animal that is Solarian corporate authority, but their flags and their patches are fine. The SSMD "protected" former Solarian territory and were just as anti-corporate as the rest of Sol. While they engaged Biesellite ships, to these ends I don't think it's unreasonable for a flagpatch of all things to be worn especially where loyalty is not a question; moreover, the SSMD is almost a direct extension of Sol and the SCC is meant to be somewhat politically neutral (for instance, helping Konyang, Moghes, really any place in the Spur that asks, allowing consuls of the DPRA, a nation-state headed by military juntas who execute non-Tajarans openly, allowing Trinarist priests on board, the list goes on) and the idea of banning a symbol that represents a legitimate part of another country's government is compromising that neutrality on a much greater scale (made worse and more bizarre by the fact that it's only command that can't wear it). Biesel is not at war with the Sol Alliance or the SSMD (what is now the SSRM) and has little precedent compared to more radical groups like the League and Front; Szalai was a Solarian officer acting in accordance with the wishes of her government (mostly) and as a somewhat legitimate representative of it. The League and Front were terrorist organizations aiming to overthrow their government. The SCC has members formerly based in Solarian space or that have interests there, Idris and Silversun for example. Restricting the rights of Solarians working for the SCC would endanger those interests especially because the Solarians want to go after them anyways. As long as the symbols don't conflict with their work then why would it be a problem in the first place? Grupo Amapola has a peaked officer cap for the HOS in the loadout despite this particular group having a large amount of, and being founded by Samaritans, widely considered terrorists not only for resisting Biesel, but corporate influence in general (see: the Peacekeeper Mandate and the SCC's goods embargo, not to mention how Mictlan handles corpos generally speaking). If both of these things are allowed (Sol flag/patches and Amapola caps), why isn't an SSMD flagpatch allowed to be worn by a trusted and well-known individual? If Kira was suitable for promotion there should be no reason why she can't display a symbol of her military service that she takes pride in, considering that even if the entity it represents has done "anti-corporate" things it's not being used as an anti-corporate symbol in this context. Solarian patriot ex-military captains and bridge crewmen exist. Ex-Himeans don't have to despise every inch of Himeo to have renounced their citizenship (mine did it because she likes money). I mean, DPRA individuals can be approved to be heads of staff, even if subject to background checks and being fired or charged if they're connected to any radicals—but the SSMD isn't radical in the way that, say, the League is or Sol isn't. The ticket below mentions Himeo and I've mentioned it here, but the SSMD is and was nowhere near the scale of an entire anti-corporate planet I'd argue. It's inconsistent and betrays the idea of complex characters who can be trusted officials without giving up everything they ever held dear that even slightly conflicts with the SCC's principles. Evidence/logs/etc: Ticket contents: Additional remarks: Even if this gets dismissed or is ruled against me, would you settle for NSRM/SSRM flagpatches on account of flags for those two entities being in the works last I checked human lore's channel?

Hell fucking yes.

ATG makes lovable, charming characters with a capacity of understanding that I don't think the average player has. I love what they bring to the table and want to see Hayashi Kuri in command LMAO. Glory to the Tau'ha'nor clan. +1

Tones has an innate understanding of what makes roleplay high and how to write well-meant, interesting characters. From the bar, to medical, to ops, I believe they're next in line for a command promotion. +1

related to above post, couldnt resist posting here (admins sue me) ft. clark, diego, and woe art is by sketchalicious

buy-in was 300, there were 3 other players :]

In fairness, a lot of other weapons are OHKs at close range or barely give you any time to react. 357 and 50 cals do fucked up damage, eswords if done right, like any rifle if you manage to do that, super heavy pistols, the list goes on. PBs are intentionally very powerful. Not really a matter of balance IMO so much as it is roleplay quality. PBing someone and insta-killing them can have a lot of buildup and thought behind it. Shotgun PBs especially do i think like 80 damage on account of being the close-range, single-shot "fuck up this person" weapon.

Most of what I could say boils down to "I don't think I was wholly off-topic" and most of what you and the rest of staff could say is "I think you were." I'd rather eat the warning point that's doing nothing than invest multiple days arguing to meet the same end. Besides, if the host warns me himself, I'm probably doing something wrong. As for retracted complaints being permanently retracted, that's another can of worms and I might make a policy suggestion thread about that, but again, not worth it to argue here.

After some consideration (and speaking with a friend) I don't think investing my energy into this is going to be beneficial for any of us. I've gotten a chance to re-read all of what I said in the original complaint (thank you Wayback), and while I stand by what I said in both the above post by myself and the spoiler below (what I had previously used to respond to Roostercat, but now only something I'm keeping for posterity) I could have handled it differently. I'd like to retract this complaint for now, though I might revisit it depending on how I feel in the future. There are things I could have said differently in this post and in the original and things that are more worth discussing as policy (unrelated to off-topic peanutting that is).

BYOND Key: Dessysalta Staff BYOND Key: Arrow768 Game ID: N/A, forums Reason for complaint: I was given a forum warning for largely explaining the views of the mentioned topic in this staff complaint, the relevant topic being this one. This quote by greenjoe is why I contributed to the discussion. I stated every point that was dissected in the main thread, as well as giving my thoughts about it because they're relevant to the discussion. I wasn't trying to give a list of reasons why the 2ICXO change shouldn't go through. I was giving adequate context of multiple developers, CCIA, lore devs, not to mention countless players contesting the change, and I closed with something along the lines of (I can't get the quote exactly for reasons that are obvious): Among other things, I handled points such as "give us a concrete number of the amount of non-human XOs played" as they were disregarded in the topic that was the subject of the complaint for no good reason, and I compiled many quotes (even a screenshot) of others players that visibly contested the change or how staff handled it. All of these were prudent to give staff (head, etc.) a sense of scale to the point of "there was a large amount of negative feedback." The staff complaint by greenjoe was not, "I am only referring to Arrow," and even if it was, the entire discussion had in regards to the 2ICXO is what sparked the complaint. I consolidated the views of the playerbase without failure and pointed out frustrations that were caused by the implementation and dialogue regarding it. I would bring up the fact that five people reacted to what I said to show they agree with me, but I cannot do that because the post was deleted. Evidence/logs/etc: The warning's in the spoiler. Additional remarks: Locking the thread immediately after I contributed was fine, I agree that it was a lot to read and I personally don't see the reason why anyone else would need to say anything after the fact, but being given a warning and having all of what I wrote deleted is unreasonable. I was not peanutting nor was I shifting the complaint to be off-topic.

"hadii's grassse" says the adventurer liznerd now apparently. this round was fucking amazing

Nothing I can think of.

Creator of the Drek'za clan here. Love to see the inclusion of more Drek'za warriors, and I can attest to Casgam's ability to roleplay. From another Vedhra fan to another Drek'za muscle, I have no doubts they can play a Unathi correctly. +1

Echoing what Evan said, it's a new thing that's been placed everywhere. Give it a month and people will stop commenting on it.

Honestly, I think it should be all or nothing, yeah. It should either be acidic and damage things around it, or it should do nothing and be mostly edible to everyone else. I would definitely side with you on making them edible/removing the acid. Let people freak out ICly about whether or not to eat greimorians and/or how weird it is.

Also you could argue that while sec is the combat learner role, team antags are a chance to get used to specific mechanics like being a combat medic or engineer, blah blah blah, but that's not my place nor is it my main point.