Nikov

The fact none of you can find the off switch to your ball-busting when a serious discussion arises is... Problematic. See, I can do it too.

I'm also finding the amount of shitposting and ball-busting between old-timers, all in good fun I am assured, to be confusing at best. New players may interpret this as a genuinely toxic community as opposed to a remarkable simulation of one with a laugh track dubbed over. And, Hivefleet? Decorum and tact are great virtues.

I just can't wrap my head around how the AI core with lethal turrets was "bad form" but an unarmed cyborg was "not fear RPing". It really sounds like you realized your first charge was not enough to stick, but then found me doing something else you could construe as questionable, so you then warned me for that. "Please don't hunt down antags it makes it unfun for them and other people involved" This also makes absolutely no sense as the first antag attempted a supermatter explosion and the second antag created a raging phoron fire. What... what is unfun for them? Consequences? People reacting? Why did you bwoink me over the core, tie me up in the middle of a crisis for ten minutes, accuse me of badmouthing you when I explained I was being bwoinked to those screaming for my help, if that wasn't worth a warning? Did you just read the note Aimless gave me from a previous round and assumed I was at it again? Did you then realize I had every reason to do what I did, and frantically scramble to find a new problem to stick me with? Why did you not reprimand the borg who walked up to someone in a adminPM conversation with you and lit the hall on fire? If you're so worried about making it fun for everyone, why did you allow the borgs to light plasma fires in major hallways? I said it before, and I'll say it again. You are very inconsistent as a moderator.

I stood still answering your adminpms regarding the core while the rest of the station fell apart. An engineering cyborg walked up dragging a phoron can, opened it two tiles away from me, and lit it on fire. I shot at him once and headed toward medbay. I was wearing a fireproof atmos voidsuit.

BYOND Key: Nikov Staff BYOND Key: LordRaven001 Reason for complaint: Warned against Valid Hunting, lack of Fear RP. "Charged into the AI Core with zero fear of the lethal turrets, later chased down an engineering borg shooting ion bolts at it Please don't hunt down antags it makes it unfun for them and other people involved." Evidence/logs/etc: Character in question is Manfred Hayden, Chief Engineer for that shift. Manfred's twenty-year career in a space navy was primarily engineering, but included small arms training for boarding or shore actions as "naval infantry". He has no amazing skill, but can operate and aim a weapon with the good sense to keep his body behind cover, or working the angles of a room. In a number of rounds he's been handed shotguns or pistols by Captains to secure Engineering in a Code Red, and he dutifully follows whatever rules they place on him. So this is an accepted character trait from other rounds. Following a long period of stillness, the AI revealed itself to be malfunctioning. Manfred made no great effort to out the AI as malf, and was in fact in surgery around the time this decision was made. With engineering being rather short-staffed, Manfred was personally ordered to destroy the AI. He began setting up an emitter and generator to shoot out the core. The AI attempted several methods of defeating him while monologue-ing and roleplaying with others about synthetic rights, etc. Clearly, demonstrably, admittedly, a malfunctioning AI. After defeating a supermatter overload attempt and preemptively shutting down atmospherics, he finished drilling into the AI core with the emitter. He did not, however, know if the AI was truly dead. AI cores can be moved aside, he had no idea how many emitter shots were needed to do the job, so on and so forth. A security detachment and a doctor or two had gathered around the breach, keeping cyborgs away from interfering with the CE's work (one did, briefly but gallantly, throw itself in front of the emitter). There was a security officer, a female human, in a sec hardsuit with an ion rifle. Manfred asked her for the ion rifle. She happily handed it over. Manfred, wearing an atmos hardsuit, began working his way into the core with the ion rifle. His intention was to... 1. Carry out his orders to destroy the AI. 2. Reduce property damage by disabling, not destroying, the AI core and other hardware. 3. Reduce risk of injry or death by methodically eliminating defenses by using the layout of the core and the weaknesses of the turrets, which he was very familiar with, to his advantage. 4. Maintain his reputation and show courage in the face of danger and in front of his peers. 5. Keep said human woman from getting shot instead of him. At this, I received a warning for "valid hunting", as LordRaven001 argued an Engineer shouldn't "charge into lethal turrets guns blazing". Or somesuch. He should instead roleplay fear. Fear of what. Fear of shirking off a lawful order? Fear of Security destroying millions of dollars of hardware? Fear of Security getting ambushed by turrets that might surprise them? Fear of looking like a coward in front of his peers? Fear of allowing a woman to come to harm doing his job? A man's job? "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear." - Mark Twain Manfred was, in fact, afraid. He was ordered to destroy the AI, which had just attempted to blow up the entire station using the supermatter engine, and would doubtlessly try to kill everyone he knew. This is something he is deeply afraid of. What he is more afraid of still is failing to protect and serve the people who depend on him. He is afraid of shame, of being considered a coward. And if that isn't more fearful than death, then explain to me what compelled men to leave their trenches at the Somme. They all feared shame more than death. Additional remarks: Being a heavy RP server, characters should be expected to be deeper than job descriptions.

http://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?p=49283#p49283 Pill-based hot drink machines allow more versatility.

Okay. Uses leading questions to open adminpm conversations, "Can you tell me what rule you just broke". This presumes guilt immediately and eliminates the player's ability to explain their position. Observed a valid-hunting or lore-breaking (I'm fuzzy on this one) Dionae lunge into space to axe a vampire to death, then told me he saw it and would do something about it since the diona was validhunting/breaking character, but didn't want to interrupt a 'valid' scene. Logically the scene is not valid if he thought he should intervene for valid-hunting/diona lore breaking. Then told me to make a player complaint about the person he failed to deal with after the scene was over. This appears lazy. If the combat wasn't valid because the Dionae was valid hunting that severely, we have "winded" and LOOC to suspend a character's action and call a time out. If it was desirable to let the scene play out and then address it, Raven failed to follow up on the issue he witnessed needing intervention. If it is entirely impossible to address for whatever reason, Raven should have proceeded to address it himself, rather than defer moderation work to the player. Pushing reporting bad play to a player to do a day after the play is witnessed by the moderator on duty is irresponsible. Observed a Chief Engineer, under direct orders to destroy a known malf AI, emitter down the walls to the AI. Then warned him for 'valid hunting' when he carefully knocked out turrets with an ion rifle to verify the AI was actually dead, without completely smashing valuable hardware. A malfunctioning machine worth millions of dollars should be disabled surgically by an engineer and not shot to pieces by a security rush, which may or may not know the actual layout of the core as the CE does. Also blessed by the HoS in the effort, and with all of sec and medical behind him. Bwoinks interrupted the CE's work, allow the antagonists to light a plasma fire right under the CE. CE then warned against not roleplaying fear and valid-hunting, but not revived after burning to death having an adminpm conversation. Considering the previous desire not to interrupt a scene, Raven is inconsistent in this regard. Makes no effort to understand the player's point of view or an explanation of the character, IE why the character isn't afraid of X, why the character thinks he should do X. Instead this is regarded as being combative, when understanding character motivations is critical to a moderator judging if bad roleplay is actually the case. All attempts to explain character actions were met with incredulous repetition of the explaination, then telling the player their job title instead of their background as a reason why a behavior was out of character. Does not exercise the same prudence in-character that he expects others to do. To be consistent, his research director should not have carried around a blood-sucking statue on the main station which actively drew blood from him every time he spoke and drew blood from his co-workers speaking in the next room over, all while one window away from the departures hallway. Also should not have deliberately summoned what were known IC to the round as murderous demons aboard the main station, when said statue was supposed to be on the research outpost. Same RD character caused several sec officers to chatter in parenthesis on the sec channel about how they didn't want to deal with him after last round, which was apparently the subject of a player complaint. At least one cryo'd. There. Feedback. Very shortly I will be reminded why I do not write staff complaints, and after that will be looking for a new server. But this was cathartic.

Or space suits are expensive, and wearing a space suit allows you to cause enormous amounts of havoc?

Aaand I'm at my daughter's birthday party. Lovely. Well you all know where you fall in my priorities at least.

No. The gas coolers are terribly power-hungry. Any gains made will be lost to power the gas cooler. If you could power the engine on a gas cooler, then you'd be breaking thermodynamics, and I'd report it as a bug/exploit. Most of this is good, but I do things differently. I find a phoron hot loop undesirable. I prefer to keep nitrogen in the hot loop. Not only is nitrogen inert in case of a leak, but the more you pulse the supermatter, the more radiation and the more energetic the supermatter becomes. The core venting on a very energetic supermatter is a problem you may not have time to fix. Its better, in my opinion, to run as mild a supermatter as possible using three cans of nitrogen as a base and filtering out only oxygen to the waste loop. You get an easy 1.5 megs, the radiation is negligable, phoron builds up to slowly increase your cooling ability; its generally safe and easy. More power is a mistake; we want the longest duration of the least risk possible. On the cold side, phoron is used. Not only is cold gas unappealing for terrorists, but the high heat capacity makes for a very good coolant. We want phoron to stay cold on the cold loop, but nitrogen's lower specific heat makes it hotter on the hot loop. It also makes it easier to cool the hot loop. I would also avoid using CO2, because in-character it is a bad idea to put dry ice in a cold loop or carbon fouling in a hot loop. Nitrogen is the preferred coolant gas in industry for a reason.

I have to disagree. My backpack at work contained multiple laptops, chargers, datalinks, 1239 cables and the occasional ECM. Its really not rare to see technical people in RnD or manufacturing jobs with kits of parts and tools. So to hell, to hell, to hell with the RIGs. They are the worst part about being the CE.

Don't post memes in Suggestions.

This is a bump. It is shameless. It seems nobody has had a word against the suggestion, at least not Rescue Balls. I mean... SPACE BALLS.

Revolution does cause a lot of Communist memes... Mutiny seems best. I wish the newspapers would start reporting stock crashes, payroll shortfalls and rumors of layoffs, so we have some grist to grind.

Coca leaves. Not cocoa. Downvoting for general edgelordery. Unless we want to add addiction mechanics, and deal with self-antagging from junkies shivving people for cash to feed their habit, I don't see a need to bring real-world drugs in. Besides, its 2458. They've probably generated non-habit-forming versions of all these things and stuff our cigarettes with them.

I don't know, two vampires colluding to become more powerful, or one stabbing the other in the back... you have to hide from your own, and do you really trust an offer of help?

Do we have a shortage of ex-military Heads of Security? -1. I haven't seen enough of these characters to overcome my inhibitions against more ex-military heads of security. At least be an MP.

I have long operated on this server under the impression that habitually rendering a body irrecoverable or unclonable is grounds for antag-banning. I have been criticized on the occasions when I did throw a victim into space. I am not certain I like this new development. I think, since death isn't meaningful and cloning easy, antags should simply become more creative than "murder X". Have you considered torture? Blackmail? Industrial sabotage? Killing their romantic interest in front of them?

If Nanako has a fault, it is being too productive, proactive, and informed in a round of SS13. All of these in-game faults are tremendous strengths at the endless job of updating our Wiki. I have been a software tester, to see someone voluntarily test drink recipes and record the results without anticipating any reward for it is surprising. I have no doubt Nanako will bring enormous amounts of accurate data into our wiki. The style of this data is unimportant; we can make editing passes later. I'll even offer to proofread her work, or make those passes myself. I could use a hobby.

A similar result can be achieved by putting the prisoner in cryo storage. Placing a cryo storage machine in the permanent cells would let people remove themselves without communal brig access.

In that case I think this is a flawed vessel for a trans-humanist narrative. If you want a trans-humanist message, you need to start with a species that is fundamentally human, so that the same human drives and ambitions can tell a story about our own drives and ambitions. This species is fundamentally not human. I continue to fail to understand how Vaurca could develop into this pattern. It feels like at one point their species was just shoehorned into VR and trans-humanism. A generation ship is an interesting idea, but why... why have six million adult Vaurca on it? Why not six billion frozen eggs and robotic hatcheries waiting to thaw them out on planetfall. You'd save tens of thousands of tons of mass. I loved sim ant too, and I like a trans-humanist warning, but it all feels like chocolate pudding and Chinese food. Its on the same buffet but it just doesn't go together. I'd rather see the lore completely focus on a race of intelligent ant people and how they would behave, rather than intelligent ant people with VR dropped on them.

I don't get why there are breeders outside of high royalty serving 'no function' when their every incentive is to become powerful enough to ascend the throne themselves. I also don't understand why they lobotomize their own species, aside from grimdark. Can't they be genuinely unable to develop intelligence as a side effect of sterility? How would this society develop in the first place? Well yes, Himmler, we could throw them in the ovens. But what if we just started cutting chunks of their brains out? No? Too expensive? I don't see this race developing from a natural starting point of intelligent ants into a society of VR nerds served by the teeming masses. Ants who become VR addicts just... it makes no sense to me.

I've joined, but I suspect we'll need a new game with less slots and a more obscure title.

Some of it ties in with how well established you or your characters all. I imagine a serious role-player of some reputation could get away with murder.

I strongly agree that we need two or more janitors. It makes little sense to have dozens of "assistants", who do precisely fuck all, and only one janitor, who is responsible for cleaning up everyone's mess. With Cleanbots outlawed, this is exactly what we need.