Nikov

I would prefer the pet mouse, Disposal Tech Squeakums. But, fine. A flying rat that shits everywhere.

This thing has helped me figure out exactly what my relation is with people. Now when someone seems chilly in the hall, I know if they usually like me, or if they're just acting out their ongoing feud. It makes it a lot easier to build new relationships too.

I am expecting schmeckles for my quotation, no less than 25.

As someone who hates Sierra's AIs, Synths, cyborgs, and all other silicon forms of artificial stupidity... Its enough. Let Sierra play synthetics freely again. This has already pushed them out of playing these roles, and they're wonderfully performed roles. AI has long been a frustrating round for its metagaming both ways, and the problem isn't really with Sierra's conduct, but how they handled everyone else breaking the rules. I see no reason to ban someone from ever playing chess again because they flip the board when someone else cheated.

Currently, if you're in space and you toggle off your air tank or even just drop it for more than a half a second, you will instantly get lung damage that will probably kill you very fast (or very slow if you're lucky). This is pretty stupid considering that there should be air in your helmet YES. or you should be able to hold your breath. NO. It should be checking to see if you have a helmet on before it starts destroying your chest cavity. YES. Wasn't that easy.

Here's a question. Did Tpr. Deutsch shoot the bartender, or did Tpr. Hans? I have no combat logs of bullets impacting the bartender. My record says Adrian Agnelli was shot, while wearing an atmospherics hardsuit. Was the bartender in an atmospheric hardsuit? Is it not odd to see someone in an atmospheric hardsuit with a shotgun? Is it odd to see armed civilian staff in stolen space suits near the armory? Has anyone considered the context surrounding this event? My IC statement was incorrect because my IC statement was made with a flawed understanding of the circumstances. Lets not go proving characters to be mis-remembering IC in a player complaint. Lets ask what players did wrong. Deutsch attempted to arrest the two suspicious persons attempting to go EVA to the mercenary shuttlecraft outside of the fore port solar airlock. Deutsch retreated when a shotgun was leveled at him, fired a flashbang, and dragged the nearest downed party. This person then got back up and ran away. Adrian pulled a gun on an ERT trooper, was banged, was dragged down the hall, got back up before the ERT could cuff him, attempted to flee again, was fired on, and then fired back. Deutsch had no reason to believe these two space-suited and armed persons weren't terrorist collaborators with the other terrorist who had killed most of Security in the very hallway this second batch were found in. Especially after refusing to surrender, flagging him with a shotgun, running from his arrest attempt, and never breathing a word the whole time. One refugee who he had contact with (and who was carrying an energy crossbow), fled him saying she was going to the bar for a drink. Now here's someone with the bartender's shotgun just west of the armory going out the airlock with an accomplice to the 'refugee' ship from which terrorists came from. HMMMM. Someone tell me why the bartender had their shotgun out of the bar. Someone tell me why the bartender stole an atmos hardsuit. Someone tell me why the bartender was trying to reach the 'refugee shuttle'. Someone tell me why the bartender thought it was smart to point a shotgun at the ERT when they attempted to arrest them. Someone tell me why the bartender himself isn't filing this complaint. Someone tell me why we're not hearing their story, just nitpicking IC misunderstandings from the only person with the balls to write anything of substance in this thread. 1138 says the flashbang should have been enough to start up non-lethal attempts to arrest. It was attempted. They fled the attempt. I only had one bang in the tube and the drag effort I made to pull them away from their co-belligerent doesn't show up in the combat log. After they fled the arrest attempt, they were shot because they still had a shotgun and were fleeing the ERT toward the terrorist shuttle. I remain intensely curious as to why they were in Security maintenance attempting to reach the antag shuttle with firearms on a code red when an ERT was already aboard and no hue and cry for militia was ever sounded. Valid hunters who aim at CentComm agents are now defended as innocent victims of the jackbooted ERT? The ERT is shit because we presume the ERT is shit, call them anyway, and no matter how they try to not be shit, whatever shit occurs is presumed to be their fault, because the ERT is shit. This is why Deutsch was also blamed for a phoron fire, IC and OOC, caused by two now-banned synthetics because he trooper happened to respond to the fire alarm. Drop the meta-assumption that all ERT are shitlers. I deferred repeatedly to the command staff and even granted the Captain was still in command of the station, two allowances I never see reciprocated myself. I did my best to play detective, bring more sec officers in, invented a roleplayed concept that let the sec team identify the passports as fraudulent, and allowed both heisters, who walked into both the ERT troopers in arrivals thirty second after we docked, to get medical care, to be suspected but not prejudged, and to not be hosed down in bullets right after we arrived because they were wearing a cyber-suit control pack and the other was carrying an energy sword. Was I a shitler then? If the offended party isn't willing to file this complaint, but I'm expected to defend anonymous allegations on behalf of both myself and my co-trooper, with no context to be given from the offended party that might actually produce some clarity as to what happened this round... then what are we left with? My IC word against my OOC word? God forbid a character's memory be less accurate than the chat log. This is going long, and I let the salt flow. IC errors becoming OOC shitstorms are a peeve of mine, as are allegations from the anonymous offended. If I could get the bartender, hans' and the apprentice's points of view, maybe we can hash out exactly what happened without having to presume so much. But I've only my own memory of the sprite movements and the text log I saved, and I feel like the only thing I'll end up doing is testifying against myself if I misremember. Please make more effort than that to prosecute this little mess.

Here you go. Nothing to hide. http://pastebin.com/emNeaUHv Relevant: Tpr. Deutsch says, "Send." [Command] Frederick Brinkmann says, "One down by Mining Outpost West Airlock. Most likely in critical condition. Blood everywhere." [security] Cheshire says, "Heading to security." You step on the glass shard! [security] Khazkrarheahk Sanu'dra asks, "Warrrden?" *---------* This is Matts Days! They are wearing Emergency Space Helmet on their head. They are wearing Emergency Softsuit. They have an industrial backpack on their back. They are holding a wrench in their left hand. They are holding a crowbar in their right hand. They have a tool-belt about their waist. They are wearing PDA-Matts Days (Engineering Apprentice). *---------* Tpr. Deutsch aims a Z8 Bulldog at Matts Days! You refrain from firing your the Z8 Bulldog as your intent is set to help. Tpr. Deutsch says, "Drop." Adrian Agnelli aims a double-barreled shotgun at Tpr. Deutsch! ((Your character is being targeted. They have 2 seconds to stop any click or move actions. While targeted, they may drag and drop items in or into the map, speak, and click on interface buttons. Clicking on the map objects (floors and walls are fine), their items (other than a weapon to de-target), moving, or talking into a radio will result in being fired upon. The aggressor may also fire manually, so try not to get on their bad side.)) You refrain from firing your the Z8 Bulldog as your intent is set to help. You step on the glass shard! You stabilize the Z8 Bulldog with both hands. [security] Tpr. Deutsch says, "CONTACT FORE PORT SOLARS." Tpr. Deutsch says, "CONTACT FORE PORT SOLARS." The Z8 Bulldog is now set to 3-round bursts. The Z8 Bulldog is now set to fire grenades. [security] Cheshire says, "37, you're up." Your ERT commander helmet deploys swiftly. You are unable to deploy the gauntlets as the SWAT Gloves are in the way. Your ERT commander chestpiece deploys swiftly. You are unable to deploy the boots as the SWAT shoes are in the way. Your suit flashes an error light. It can't function properly without being fully deployed. [security] Cheshire says, "38, rather." You step on the glass shard! User scanned as Tpr. Deutsch. Camera activated. You enable the helmet light. Tpr. Deutsch forcefully strikes Fore Solar Access with the Z8 Bulldog! You step on the glass shard! [security] Gypsy 038 states, "I will fry them." Tpr. Deutsch aims a Z8 Bulldog at Adrian Agnelli! Priority Announcement All crew that may of armed themselves out of fear, please hand in weapons to security. Otherwise heavy sanctions will be applied. -Frederick Brinkmann (Captain) You will now shoot where you target. You fire the Z8 Bulldog! BANG [security] Cheshire exclaims, "What the heck?!" You step on the glass shard! [Engineering] Jan Fischer asks, "Uhh... Matt?" You step on the glass shard! The Z8 Bulldog is now set to 3-round bursts. [security] Cheshire exclaims, "Who left this ion rifle on the floor?!" [security] Cheshire yells, "Are you insane?!" A tiny puncture opens up on the atmos voidsuit! Adrian Agnelli is hit by the bullet in the chest! The bullet shrapnel sticks in the wound! The tiny puncture on the atmos voidsuit gapes wider! Adrian Agnelli is hit by the bullet in the chest! You fire the Z8 Bulldog! The tiny puncture on the atmos voidsuit gapes wider! Adrian Agnelli is hit by the bullet in the right leg! You hear a loud cracking sound coming from Adrian Agnelli. Adrian Agnelli screams! You hear a loud cracking sound coming from Adrian Agnelli. Adrian Agnelli screams! The bullet misses Adrian Agnelli narrowly! You fire the Z8 Bulldog! The bullet misses Adrian Agnelli narrowly! The tiny puncture on the atmos voidsuit gapes wider! Adrian Agnelli is hit by the bullet in the left hand! Tpr. Deutsch gasps! You are not wearing a suitable mask or helmet. [Response Team] Tpr. Hans says, "Report" You are not wearing a suitable mask or helmet. Adrian Agnelli aims a double-barreled shotgun at Tpr. Deutsch! ((Your character is being targeted. They have 2 seconds to stop any click or move actions. While targeted, they may drag and drop items in or into the map, speak, and click on interface buttons. Clicking on the map objects (floors and walls are fine), their items (other than a weapon to de-target), moving, or talking into a radio will result in being fired upon. The aggressor may also fire manually, so try not to get on their bad side.)) Tpr. Deutsch gasps! Adrian Agnelli fires the double-barreled shotgun! Cracks begin to appear in the reinforced window! [security] Khazkrarheahk Sanu'dra says, "Warrrden" The reinforced window shatters! The bullet misses Adrian Agnelli narrowly! The reinforced window shatters! You fire the Z8 Bulldog! The magazine (5.56mm) falls out and clatters on the floor! The tiny puncture on the punctured atmos voidsuit gapes wider! Adrian Agnelli screams! Adrian Agnelli is hit by the bullet in the chest! *click*

I'm not sure what event precipitated this change, but it seems overly broad and is inconsistent with "visitors" who are merely off duty regulars of the staff. I strongly suggest adding an "Off Duty" job slot to accept both off-duty crew and for parking employees suspended as punishment.

This isn't what a firing pin is. This is a firing pin. Its a hard, finely-machined metal rod. They are almost always integrated inside the bolt assembly in a manner that cannot be easily disassembled, to such a degree that common soldiers would not be expected to do anything but clean said pin or send it to an armorer to replace it. I don't care if you put "authorization chips" in, just don't call it a firing pin.

Reskin the scuttling charge to something black and chrome then, but its a nuclear bomb, not a bit of referential humor.

No. The nuke on the station is a very readily understood bit of sci-fi that allows a number of scenarios to play out. All of these scenarios still play out with the beer cooler reskin, only now it will involve idiots breaking into the vault to steal beer, people insisting there's no nuke, just a beer cooler, and people being derplords dragging around the beer cooler because it isn't obviously a nuke. I'd rather people just stop continuing this stupid meme of "oh noes a nuke" than make yet another meme. Good cutscene though, I got the reference immediately. Maybe we can put this reference in somehow.

Nope! Can't interact. Looking at an engineer and pinging? Law violation, ban he all minnits.

Law 3 seems silly. Don't interact with anyone, including the engineer who picks you up and throws you at a hull breach. "Interact" should be "Interfere", otherwise we can't direct drones to tasks even with the control console.

Also, not likely. The supermatter produces oxygen as a byproduct, which is filtered out of the cold loop, and goes to the waste tank. You just take that back to atmos and put it in the system Superheated O2, which then has to be conditioned down to room temperature before use. Its better to have a CO2 to O2 conversion machine added Later .

As the resident High Priest of Atmos... Do it. Fucking do it. FUCKING MAKE THIS HAPPEN. There are a few additional elements to consider, like an electric CO2 > O2 + C converter, or for hydroponics to convert CO2 back into O2. A feature of plants is that the higher the CO2 in their enviroment, the more efficient photosynthesis is and the less water required (the relationship is geometric). Boosted CO2 levels are easily the greatest fertilizer in agronomy, so a good use for all that waste CO2 is elevating Hydroponics' CO2 level to further O2 and food production. However in the short term, simply spiking CO2 production from mobs will give us a feel for where to go with this. Do seven or eight people crammed in an escape pod choke to death before their pod docks? Lets hope!

Hey, if the new minimum of inappropriate touching is shoving a married woman on her office table in a dark room, I'm a saint.

Quitting for college? I give you, oh, two weeks before you realize drunken bacchanalians and the campus sadomasochism club are morally bankrupt and emotionally destructive before you return to our murderbox simulator. Don't feel like its going back on your word to go back to doing something you love, when the word you gave was only to yourself trying to control yourself. Just manage your time spent gaming, because learning to adult is basically all deferring pleasure until after pain. The S&M club gets those waters all muddied.

Isn't that something? Again, negotiating with terrorists is something everyone tries to do. Imagine the negotiations going on we don't know about! And NanoTrasen isn't even a sovereign nation trying to project strength, it's a cold, calculating mega-corporation. It's incredibly common for similar entities to just pay off the bad guys than deal with the headache. 1980, 1983, and 1985. I gave a date for a reason, Jackboot. It is possible that chronology will suggest a trend in the past that isn't carried forward in the future, presumably as bad ideas in theory are revealed to be bad ideas in practice. Furthermore I will remind you it was state actors negotiating with state actors. Negotiations with Hamas were only conducted by Iran, while the United States, Israel and Iran negotiated in an attempt to repair the rift brought about by the fall of the Shah. Nanotrasen is in the position of King Cotton or the East India Company; it is not difficult to believe they can start wars if they see money involved. See the British conquest of India and the Opium Wars. With so much influence, it is perfectly reasonable to dot he cold and calculating thing and simply refuse to ransom your employees back, and instead keep a few retired Sol admirals and politicians on payroll. A known expense to have the Navy command channels willing to hear your plea for an anti-terrorist action is better than the unknown expense of paying millions in ransom payments. Beyond high-level employees, we're just not worth the hassle. That is a cold, calculating megacorporation.

Nobody cares what happens on the Odin. We're telling a story every round, and nobody tunes in to Star Trek to watch Kirk shave and put on his red sweater. The point of rounds is television episodes of our fairly consistent characters in a fairly consistent setting meeting wildly different challenges and returning a little older and wiser, but still fairly consistent, the next round. What this proposes is to move toward adding five to fifteen minutes of entirely inconsequential busywork on top of the five to fifteen minutes of inconsequential busywork we already have to go through starting engines or whatever other departments do for a living. Furthermore this introduces new challenges to the moderator staff; IS THE ODIN OUT-OF-PLAY? By which I mean, if an antag starts on the Odin, can he engage in antaggery on the Odin? Murder? Well its close to round start. Blood drinking a somewhat willing RP partner? Questionable. Stealthily stealing DNA as a changeling? Its not hurting anyone. Convert some fellow revs? Meet your fellow cultists and exchange words? If the Odin is out of play, why spawn on it? If the Odin is in play, why leave it? Ordinarily we are on the Odin only when the round is over, no combat is allowed and any violations of this rule results in a three day ban. What happens when Urist McNew doesn't realize he's on the Odin, thinks we just have a really neat new map, and throws a punch in an argument? Breaks a window? Breaks a window to space? We have no atmospherics network on the Odin. While I think most of the Odin is unsimulated, its still a risk. If your intention is to come in and chair RP / PDA love notes with your friends, why leave the Odin's bar? If I hear "MALF AI" or "WIZARD" (or various far more subtle means by which players get around the no-meta rules) and I have a personal distaste for those rounds, do I have any reason to board the shuttle and go into an experience I'll dislike? Some players already cryo the moment its apparent Malf is running. Now they won't even be around to set up the engine or drop their gear off before finding a tube on the ODIN, or will instead participate in the Odin's Bar RP. Will you punish them for coming on the server and deciding to not do things they don't want to? Look, a majority of people want this. If you went down the street and asked people if they wanted the government to give everyone free healthcare, they'd agree. But if its implemented poorly everyone will be taking two chickens and a bottle of rum to make sure their doctor isn't conveniently "out of your prescription", or taxed half their income to pay the way for the unemployed. Pure democracies don't work for a reason. You have to have serious people who look seriously at the issues a proposal raises willing to say no to the masses, or even those willing and able to see the plan fulfilled, because it creates problems that conflict with the big picture. LordFowl can make this happen. I'm confident in his abilities. Once its happened, however, I'm not so sure it will be worth the problems and questions that arise. Nobody's paying LordFowl, his time is his own to spend on what he wants. I respect that. But once completed, sixty people will spend five to fifteen minutes going through a new routine for the start of every round. That's a lot of playtime, especially for those trying to catch a round after work, and it adds up to a lot of playtime better spent on the station. It also means a lot of new administration questions, bwoinks, bans; avoidable unpleasantness. I just don't feel like the balance of pros and cons favor the proposal.

It was Reagan in 1985 who codified "we don't negotiate with terrorists". Until Obama, this was the go-to US response for international hostage taking for the era of time in which terrorism was largely over land claims in Israel, imprisoned members of terror cells, and straight money demands. Anymore terrorism is a means to its own end; dead kuffars. The nominal reasoning behind not negotiating with hostage-takers and bomb threats is that negotiating with a terror cell of five people with three of your citizens hostage is basically saying that any time a couple guys grab one of the 300 million Americans, they can make some money or get their buddy sprung out of prison. Conceding to demands from five guys with guns when you have five military branches each with their own counterterrorism special forces a helicopter ride away is also ridiculous, as it implies you have no will to actually fight. Airline hijacking for ransom or political prisoners was uncomfortably common on American airlines before this policy was announced, and afterwards there have been only three incidents in US civil aviation. Declaring that the US will not entertain ransom demands and will instead send men with guns steered hijackers to other nations. Nanotrasen would do well to have a formal "we do not negotiate" policy, but allow the command staff to behave otherwise. It could be interesting to see how a loyalty implanted Captain handles his subordinates willfully violating company policy.

Stick a fork in it, its done.

One inflatable wall, not a box of them. Oh well. I guess people can keep dying to space, because gee, that's fun.

True, I was part of it. Bit far-fetched and snowflakey, sure. Might just be the deluded ramblings of a deeply unhappy man trying to make himself more important than he really ever was, so dismiss it if you like. While the Mass Effect gif is nice, this stems more from Star Control 2, Killing Star, and everyone else who did similar concepts before ME. They lack captioned gifs, though. Cleansing is necessary to ensure our eternal freedom and security.

I'm not in favor of this. Five minutes spent putting our clothes on and waiting for the shuttle to come back and pick us up is five minutes spent round after round doing some routine series of clicks. I don't see this improving actual play for most people beyond the novelty of it. Furthermore, won't some people just stay on the Odin and chair-RP or try being an antag on the Odin? It seems this muddies the water between in-play and out-of-play, since the Odin is a no-conflict zone typically. Sure we can just ban people for it, but its another rule for a dubiously interesting hassle and delay getting to the station to even start setting up the supermatter.

Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?: To have more fun with more roles that I am experienced with. Wrong answer. -1