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[Resolved] Player Complaint - Birdie & Dekser
LordPwner replied to goolie's topic in Complaints Boards Archive
My idea of favoritism comes mainly from how perfectly things lined up. You were busy Cybs, and yet had time to suspend us when they were other staff who were not. You knew you were going to busy and not able to handle it, so why did you not pass it off? It just came off WAY too perfect, and the fact their character DID actually accuse mine of sexual harassment was never handled because we were 'OOC'ing in ICly' (we weren't) and even when this was told to you, on top of IC justification as to why our characters would act towards another character who by definition who harasses other characters- We were the auto-bad guys. You did not listen, you didn't attempt to understand. You just went 'This could be seen badly, if you squint, so you're doing something that breaks rules. In the end, by your warnings it was clear that we didn't break rules, but from your phrasing that 'it could have been'. You did what these complaints do not do, you ignored a whole side's behavior and focused only on ours. We pointed you in another direction, with you being the only one to take this as an OOC issue. Where as we just wanted a better, more proper response, and so did our characters. Since you made a judgement call, and a staff action was taken (Which now you want to push to a relay-ban after the complaint was made?) and it was one I felt was grossly mishandled, I wanted to contest it. My closing point is just remove the strike, first, original post, it was never edited out. If you are saying that we're harassing, I will find it the height of comedy... We went to appropriate channels to contest punishment, and are now facing our own mark of punishment for attempting such... I just find this odd. Thats not how interactions work, nor RP, nor IRL there is never just one incident, people normally don't go 0-100 from one thing. It's a build up. To ignore that is to ignore context The staff complaint is literally not about them as an OOC person, the screenshots including Nalika (Which the complaint is not Plastered high and low with) is to point evidence as to why characters WOULD react that way. It is a staff complaint about you, being dismissive, ignoring context, and potential nepotism. There are things put in this complaint that are just factually untrue. In my post, I did note that SOME of their comments could be labelled as such. "While A LOT of what Keala says can DEFINETLY be seen as sexual harassment due to it's very nature being about sexual stuff. Now I'm not going to post every little we thought over the character's fit under the umbrella of 'harassment' because I will be here all month long. 7 is the one that details his comment about Nystrom. His comment about Raena was a little off, and the context around it made it seem more than just 'banter'." I narrowed it down because you Cybs turned this into a whole 'sexual harassment' and if I DID go back for all cases that would fall under the definition of just harassment or a companies policy, just to Marcus himself. I'd have to go digging for a while to get them all. Mocking someone for a love-life they do or don't have is by definition harassment, you literally can't do that in most places you work for either on the clock or not. People are pink slipped, re-trained, re-educated and in the worst cases fired for this behavior irl. But we're funny spessman game, so playing a character as a jerk is acceptable, and can make for interesting roleplay. Which is why it hasn't been brought to you, but when it just repeats, and repeats, and Characters get sick of it. They nor their players should be chastised for not liking it. -
[Resolved] Player Complaint - Birdie & Dekser
LordPwner replied to goolie's topic in Complaints Boards Archive
The same applies to Marcus in this situation. I more than likely won't go back to edit the complaint as I don't believe I've put anything incorrect. If you think that is the case please just quote over the forums and/or discord. While still arguing my side, I did my best to stay objective as possible, taking as much context as physical possible from my understanding or from the clues gathered around. As my complaint has to deal with being punished and Cybs dismissive nature over the whole thing. -
[Resolved] Player Complaint - Birdie & Dekser
LordPwner replied to goolie's topic in Complaints Boards Archive
Goolies, none of this is over you. It's not they were 'silently' collected. Ignore the fact we only went back like seven at most and after we were suspended so we could point at EVIDENCE and say 'this is why- so why are we in trouble?'. It was to show that by definition Nalika as a character does ENGAGE in HARASSMENT Now this isn't a bad thing OOCly or ICly which is why no one has come to talk to you, which is why there was a complaint about you or your character. It was a factually correct statement you were harassing women at the time ICly, it could have been men like is done with Marcus or with punk tajaran. Marcus, as a character, was tired of it and He did not believe it belonged. So he called out. The only people dredging the word sexual out would be Cybs and now yourself, but if we want to get down too some of Nalika's comments do refer back to people's sex lives, how often they get laid, etc. etc. I was still quite under the idea this SHOULD be an IC issue until Cybs started throwing around the word SEXUAL harassment. We clearly just meant harassment and general, and it seems other people took it that way as well (Considering an unrelated character went 'Yeah he does that to everyone' or something like that). Wasn't trying to upset or offend you OOCly. Marcus just thought it was amusing the actions of the moderator ICly. -
BYOND Key: Lordpwner Birdie#3347 Staff BYOND Key: Cybs Cyberspy#8403 Game ID: Discord Reason for complaint: Myself and Deki were given bot strikes on Discord over, well, the quotes don't match what we were told. I am contesting the strikes. So the last time I got into a little spat over the discord server, had a pretty nice conversation with Cybs about talking to staff- bringing it to their attention. So I tried my best to do just that. Screenshot 1 Staff were tagged got hit with 'it'll be reviewed line'. Thought it was a little BS, through context the comments in question, and before, and always of the behavior of Nalika is almost always over the line (let the shipping manifest speak for itself.) But generally most people let it swim over the line because it's funny or whatever??? But today some characters were not having it. Now I did message Mel over this same issue, trying to draw her attention to it what was going on. But I didn't do the best job explaining myself and was just generally trying to ask the exhausted aussie questions. Screenshot 2. But Mel said 'I can't think rn' so I didn't really want to push it further, and figured that hey, OOCly this will get handled whenever, but ICly we still got some dust to settle. So then Marcus and Svet talked about how the Commants directed at Syc's character Ravena were HARASSMENT note how this word has NO LEADING statement. Screenshot three is where we start the 'downward spiral' ICly of calling our bad behavior, and honorable Dominian and a Pluto Woman against- well not the world, just a memer on the relay. Whats kinda funny on timing is 4 and 5, ICly I get told hope you get muted. A minute later I am Suspended from the relay. Cybs tells us they'll be a bit and so we wait- and wait.... and wait. 1hr and 20 minutes later (instead of handing it off to another staff member) I finally get in touch with Cybs. Screenshot 6 and the beautiful screenshot 7. While A LOT of what Keala says can DEFINETLY be seen as sexual harassment due to it's very nature being about sexual stuff. Now I'm not going to post every little we thought over the character's fit under the umbrella of 'harassment' because I will be here all month long. 7 is the one that details his comment about Nystrom. His comment about Raena was a little off, and the context around it made it seem more than just 'banter'. This is the context that made it seem more than just friend that is girl, when writing girl friend/girlfriend whatever the note. Telling someone, who cares about gender role, that they ARE interested is still big yikes, slighter smaller in a better context but still. And generally he blast unathi, men, women, whatever. Screenshot 8 is second time Nalika accused Marcus of ACTUAL sexual harassment. (Perving on people, which he doesn't do, is actual sexual harassment.) #9 is the first time Nalika did it and by Cybs' own definition of 'being within the last hour' it should have been relevant, but wasn't. Whats funny is, the REST of the people there also took it as just Harassment. Note the #10. Cybs is the one who jumped into sexual harassment, because it was implied, later saying ANY character ACUSING ANY OTHER CHARACTER OF SEXUALITY HARASSEMENT WILL BE SUSPENDED ON THE SPOT. Nalika then proceeds to ACTUALLY accuse Marcus of sexual harassment. I was then accused of being 'petty' and 'only waiting till I was suspended' which we know isn't true because I did try to contact Mel, as shown. He then straight up lied to me and said that Deki used the term sexual harassment (go figure they didn't). #11 #12 - #14 are just important to bring our whole conversation to light. I'm not one to play the hesaid-shesaid bullshit. I'll just quote. "It's not recent if it was more than an hour ago." "It wouldn't have changed anything considering the ravna/marcus/svet stuff was all that was recently up until then." (actively IGNORING the context that lead up to the situation at hand) "If I can talk to the person that's supposedly being harassed and they tell me what is essentially "No, I clearly understood he wasn't" then yes." - I am happy that this didn't bother Syc, they weren't the ONLY person who was hit with comments like this and I ended up being one of them too. And of course you go "well- if it was so bad, why wouldn't they just say something?" #15-#16 two quotes I got sent. (I'll write them out as the player asked me not to include them) #16 shows the closing remarks between us where I point out someone ACTUALLY accusing another character of sexual harassment this is likewise ignored as I believe they turned attention to Deki, but never responded to it and flat out ignored it in that upsettingly common 'I'm right, you're wrong, L' mentally #17 Between Cybs and Deki - who they refer to as Dekster, where there was some ATTEMPT to justify Nalika's behavior because 'we called them a freak' no Chief, we call them a harasser- The character, not the player, no one can come in here with a straight face and EVER claim that Nalika DOES NOT harass other characters. If they do, they are ignorant or lying. Which if we note a re-examination of #18 (focused #11) Cybs claims that Deki did in fact use SEXUAL harassment. Re-examining the interaction, they did not. (You'll also note from our warnings, they didn't use that language either even after trying to claim to both of us that we did. Literally just them.) See #20 to support claim of #18 - #19 and above. Now I am going to go into an old issue a bit to show a stark contrast in how Cybs is acting with THIS case verses another . See #21 and #22 In this, it started out with Cybs calling me ingenuine over the issue with White Rabbit (which is fair been solved), but then later realizing after more CONTEXT and SCREENSHOTS and CONVERSATION that it was just bad timing and upset feelings. But in this case they wanted none, refer above. It's like the building actions did NOT matter to Cybs. Going as far as to call me impolite for trying to do so. Like, why are we moving the goal post? Whats going on here? Either we COME TO YOU when shit happens, or we don't? It just seems we can't get it right 😕 On top of that #23 is the punishments, called this a conversation which is the only funny part of this interaction. Even Cybs agrees in the end, by his own wording we did not claim anyone was sexually harassing anyone. It was just a matter of fact the people he was harass at the time were women ICly. Would it have been a smaller issue if it was men? Or is it because of Goolies being friends with Cybs that we got hit hard but they got off scoot free even after doing something that was warned to get you suspended, not once, but twice. Thanks for reading this long ass thing, I'd like for the closing, if found in our favor that the strikes be removed. Really pissed off about basically being threatened to be banned because my Character is tired of being harassed himself, both in the relay and work place constantly. Evidence/logs/etc: Additional remarks: had to removed the double posted photos, yiked Should be considered as well. I just don't feel rested enough to go back and change the arguement/format
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PurplePineapple - Command Whitelist
LordPwner replied to PurplePineapple's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
was able to robust Navarre Very good player, I enjoy their characters and story. They should be given the chance, at least +1 -
Hepatica's Command Whitelist App (pt. 2)
LordPwner replied to Hepatica's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
They do good RP, and from what I picked up they know the role and can be a good command player. You know, you get that +1.00000000000000000000000000001 -
Reporting Personnel: Marcus Tiberius Zhao Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Bridge Crew Game ID: clZ-alUt Personnel Involved: (Name, Job Title: Offender/Witness/Other. Only three witnesses other than yourself permitted, the rest go to secondary witnesses. Victims count as witnesses) Kriszta Meszaros (Head of Security), Offender Lillian Nystrom (Engineer), Victim Felix Fleeter (Engineer), Witness Sraxx Kusso (Medical Intern), Witness Secondary Witnesses: (Name, Job Title: Short description of what they witnessed) - xxxInvolvedPersons - Aelia Volvalaad (Phyisican), Secondary Witness Usli Kusso (Surgeon), Secondary Witness These two can bare witness to my actions of carrying Nystrom to medical, and their prolong gasping. Which is apart of this issue mainly due to the actions of Head of Security Kriszta Meszaros which will be below Time of Incident: 0350 Hours Approx. Ship Time Real Time: 08:20 PM PST 1/20/2023 Location of Incident: The Lift beside Residential Lifts Nature of Incident: [X] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [X] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [X] - Misconduct [ ] - Other _____ Overview of the Incident: (General description of the incident, to include as much detail as is deemed necessary) Greetings Stellar Corporate Conglomerate Central Command Internal Affair Agents, I do hope this report finds you in good health to start, and with pleasantries out of the way, we will begin. I had just gotten onto the deck as a member of our empty Bridge Crew, when a loud crash was heard behind me. One Lillian Nystrom had fell from the upper decks, later was able to confirm the third deck, to the first deck. I heard the sickening crack of bone quickly followed of her gasping, struggling to breathe. I immediately jump to action- lifting her onto my shoulders. I was going to get her onto the lift and call for medical- But then the intern, Sraxx Kusso came down from the lift- meaning they, like myself were not geared for work. I had already had them up on my shoulders- and did not see any logical point in dropping her to the ground just for him (the intern), just to lift her (the victim) to do what I was already doing. As the Intern was about to call the lift, the Head of Security was already coming down and stepping out as we stepped on. She tried to reach me through comms, since the left was moving, but I did not hear her. As I was speaking with the Intern- about to ask if they could inject her with their safety injector just in case. Before the words could leave my mouth- we were on the third deck instead of the second. Felix Fleeter was there- I assume he saw what happened on the third deck and can give better testimony to those events. He was cracking a joke- but quickly, after advisement from ourself and the intern, got on the lift and got serious. The Head of Security had pushed the button because I did not respond to them- after missing it, in the middle of trying to converse with a Medical Professional. So instead of going to deck two- like we had planned, we went to deck one. In which, they then stepped forward and used the safety protocols to lock the lift in place while Miss Nystrom is gasping- fighting for air on my shoulders. I tell her to get out of the door- Nystrom struggles to yell at her to leave the door. She does not. She steps forward, and blocks the inner door. I tell her, to move and to quote myself "Literally killing someone". I was loud, but I believed it to be warrant to inform them what was going on. They just stood there, staring for a moment. The intern then stepped forward, grabbing the Head of Security's arm and pulled them from the lift's doors. We finally raise up to the second deck and make it to medical, where I can pass them off to a Doctor who is geared and ready. The Head of Security instead of following us, decided walking off to Security or wherever was more important and decided to go after me over comms. To which I replied, in my mind, I had done something both morally, and legally correct. While the Head of Security just put a crew member into extended danger, causing a workplace hazard, through the misuse of lift doors. A Neglection of her duty to the safety of the crew, and misconduct in the further conversation we had afterward, over comms and privately in her officer. I stayed outside Medical, making sure we had made it in time and speaking with the free medical staff as to what had happened. Since it was HIGHLY unreasonable an officer, more so a head of staff would do something some strange and petty. The Head of Security said over radio that she ought to ask medical her condition, because after yelling at me for yelling, that was the appropriate next step. Not to check on the wounded crew member first. Of course she is reported as fine, because medical was able to start work right away and repair her lungs so she could breath again and assist in any damage to her brain it may have caused. Then after getting her "proof" demanded we have a 'mandatory' chat in her office. I of course followed her instructions as my superior and went to her office. She then instructed me that I can either A.) Apologize or B.) Take a Slander of Head of Staff as a charge to my permanent record. I had assumed that she was already prejudiced against me since I am an Imperial and she is a Fisanduhian. So I turned on S-T-T for my messages with Aelia Volvalaad after gaining permission, to quote my speech to make it much harder for her to lie about the conversation that took place behind closed doors and tinted windows. She did not record the conversation to my knowledge. She ended up not charging me as the shift ended, but the threat of it still looms over me. And even, if she should not act on it. I wanted this on record incase another horrible situation like this occurs and she does push for punishment. If she had not been so focused on being in charge, and having to be told of a medical emergency as the Head of Security? This would issue would have been solved quicker and Miss Nystrom would have to suffer less, and return to work quicker. On a more personal level, I did not respect the threats to my new, untarnished record and the clear disrespect that such a member of Command would throw around. Nor did we ignore the 'implied ignorance'. Anyone can tell from gasping, that one can not breathe. I believe this all to be true as I recall the events. As below I would like to be interviewed to discuss the case as it opens more to the conversation in her office and her conduct in general. Submitted Evidence: Would you like to be personally interviewed?: [X] - Yes [ ] - No Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: Events aboard the Horizon prevented me from reaching to another Head of Staff- as they were occupied with other matters and then went to Residential. I could not go to Head of Security because they clearly believed themselves to be in the right. Actions taken: Officers had heard me discussing this in passing as I spoke with Nystrom later that shift and did not find anything wrong with it. There was no other free of head of staff at the time who could do anything due to said events taking place that were preoccupying. Additional Notes:
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Evidence: Likes fairy bread. Thats all your honor, ban plz
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Eddymakaveli's Command Whitelist Application
LordPwner replied to eddymakaveli's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
I've interacted with Eddy's characters both Command not. They so far have added to RP and interactions, rarely have they taken away from them. They can be a bit ODD both ICly and sometimes OOCly, but its nothing outside the acceptable. They deserve the spot, imo +1 -
Zulu's IPC Application (Do Not Merge) (High Risk)
LordPwner replied to Zulu0009's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
Gotta give 'em the +1 While I was personally excited to get Mobius back, since our characters had great interactions and were arguably friends. However, Zulu can pull off decent robo's. They're fun to play with and I am excited to see what fun, lore-friendly robo boi's and gals they produce for us to bully RP with -
DaTruRiZZoB | Command Application
LordPwner replied to DaTruRiZZoB's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
+1 Seems to lead their department well, sets up engine on dead hour. They seem to be a good player and RPer- excited to see what else they do! -
1.) When he was younger- He saw the PRA as murderers, saw the DPRA as idiotic murderers, and the NKA as a new hope. That changed after the conflict, leading to his more pacifism ideals, at least among fellow tajara. Now, he sees the PRA as a hope for the people, the DPRA still has this sour taste to his tongue, since they refuse to work with the megacorporations that while do use and abuse their workforce, have benefits to work with. With the NKA, he wishes in his deepest heart that they full out won and captured the Tajara world and the following galactic nation, hopefully without bloodshed. 2.) As a bloodline of the Adomdan Empire, and resident of the Harr’masir continent, his family and himself are devout members of S'rand'marr followers of the Suns. Holding to hiding one's feelings, keeping private matters private, and acting with reservation are expected of every Tajara, young or old. While to not shame his family, holding more to the sect of the Suns Penitent 3.) He ended up on the Horizon from his betrayal of the NKA back to the PRA- To prove his worth and loyalty- giving basic information, working in 'not propaganda', and in minor administration. Working as a Consular for the PRA to instill loyalty, to work for the greatness of the President, and if he is a rebel- his influence is quite minor this far from PRA Space. Also- following the pay to help his family on the East Coast of the Amohda Island. So both political and personal reasons
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BYOND Key: LordPwner Character Names: Current Old Species you are applying to play: Njarir’Akhran Tajaran What color do you plan on making your first alien character: (Color of your character; Dionaea & IPCs exempt) Cinnamon Have you read our lore section's page on this species? Yes! The resources I looked were as follows: https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Tajara https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=People's_Republic_of_Adhomai https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Democratic_People's_Republic_of_Adhomai https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=New_Kingdom_of_Adhomai https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Adhomai https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Tajaran_Cold_War_Arc Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph format. One paragraph minimum per question. Why do you wish to play this specific race: I've always been interested in the Tajara lore and bringing this idea of my OC to life, Rainbow Stardust Princess Asghar Khrazma'zur. Following their story as a race, and development has always been interesting. The Second Revolution that then developed into the Cold War Arc between the PRA, DPRA, NKA. Even the Warring Kingdoms was fun, the break down, the massacre, their history is interesting to a extreme level! I also enjoy the idea of their different break ups, the M'Sai, Zhan, Najrir, and Hharar. More so, how their interact, view each other, and affect their RP styles, colorings, and ideals. Even more so that the M'sai can only be Head of Security- The Zhan can't be any of them, and the Hharar and Njarir'Akhran can be everything but the HoS. The forum needs to be updated Head of Personnel to Executive Officer. Identify what makes role-playing this species different than role-playing a Human: Outside of mechanics, having claws, running faster, lasting lest brute, better night vision, slower reagent processing, and a bunch of other things that I don't want to list to just fill out the paragraph. Tajara are very revolutionary, at least until up to recently. They're very 'tradition' shaming or at least shunning homosexuality, xenophilic ideals, and overt displays of affection. They are different when compared to humanity due to the wide shotgun of said humanity: from the strongest traditionalist and authoritarian to the most libertarian and freedom seeking Martian. When speaking basic, their R's are drawn (I'm unsure of this automagical like the S's for Unathis), but they other speak in a shared Tajaran language with other Tajara. A lot of direct conflict, and politic ideology is more recent than with humanity. While Sol is very authoritarian, they seem to have bigger things to worry about then how each Tajara thinks- Where the PRA, and arguably the DPRA or NKA, are much more invested in how you act. Character Name: Asghar Rrhazhal Khrazma'zur, PRA Consular Please provide a short backstory for this character (Approximately two paragraphs) Asghar is a Njarir, a noble from a bloodline dating to the Amohdan Empire, before the first great revolution to establish the People's Republic. Holding to the tradition of the Khrazma'zur and Amohdan swordsman taught him early in life to be strong, but, instead of holding to the actual tradition, he moved towards a more romanticized version of it. Honor, Loyalty, Bravery were all ideals that were held close to his heart. A Tajara who believed in the Kingdom, and Monarchy, and the re-establishment of his line, even if it was a far off and quiet dream in his heart. Growing up under the PRA as a Njarir was not easy- even though his nobility were all but stripped from him and family, the Zhan, M'sai, and Hharar all harbored loathing. The hatred, the fear of looking over his shoulder lead him to the Royalist cause. The Second Revolution began when he was young- sixteen or so, and like a patriotic fool, with no real taste of death, or war- Just the stories of the massacre and first revolution to light a fire in his heart. The murder, death, and destruction being pinned on the Authoritarian Republic was too much for his young soul to bear. His blood and claim to the line putting him forward to the front lines of the fighting. The opening of the second revolution was violent, but he was spared some of the worse in his unit- till garrison became front line soldier. There was.. or well always is, this romantic idea of war- The fighting, the dying- it's all for your nation, your cause. But there you are- on the crater soaked fields of the Ras'nrr Prairies, the swirling mud as life of Adhomai is replaced with the burning fires of civil war once again. These horrors, these truths, pushed the young noble away from the this war and back to the PRA- He realized how little he knew. And when asked why he gave up, his only reply, 'No Throne is worth any Tajara Blood, for it is far more precious than all the salt in the sea.' His words come off from the Siik'maas tongue, and an Amohdan accent to match. What do you like about this character? I like this character because he is noble who was born into the PRA at the end of the revolution, 2433. While growing up in a nation who hated him for his blood, a family afraid that they would be next, and a childhood forged in worry and fear. Learning the ways and processes of following the Republic- of being the best little citizen he can. While behind closed doors learning swordsmanship, a romanticized idea of nobility and the horrors of the PRA and what they've done. That just because he was a noble, he deserved better, but this, he couldn't share any of this. The the second revolution came around and gave him a chance to be 'a man' and that just left him hollow and broken on the inside. He left the Kingdom, surrendered intelligence and himself back to the PRA before working himself as their newest loyal follower. Protecting his family and trying to push the ideal that Tajara shouldn't kill each other. War showed him too much. How would you rate your role-playing ability? I'd say I'm fairly good at roleplaying, been doing it for years on and off server- got tons of hours under my belt and I think I play a good mix of characters. I think this character can and hopefully will be really interesting and fun to interact. Sent off from the PRA to make sure tajara are loyal to the cause and the President. A new bright future for the PRA. Notes: Please leave any feedback below, and/or ask any questions you'd like! I'd love to try answer them to the best of my ability.
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[Accepted] Kelnor - Command White List Application
LordPwner replied to Kelnor's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
I hate to say this- you really don't. You need a background for your Captain in some field, relevance to the ship/station is best- But a Captain is not a 'Hey, fill these roles out as needed' knowing generally what they do as a facts thing is a much as you really need. Don't need the experience playing them, early aurora days I never bothered with a lot of roles and just made an interesting character people liked or hated. Thats just the point on Captain- Hailey does need more work in terms of knowledge base for /how/ to treat things, and how things work- When it comes to the Vaurca and Dex- that was quickly corrected. Hailey and Kelnor by extension know alot about medical and how it works, still finishing some stuff up. As a hardcore Medical player- Hailey needs to be more hands-on- Keeping staff in their lane, she or any CMO (Any command honestly) should not allow those under them to step on each other's toes- Chefs should not be Gardeners if gardeners are present. Bartenders should not be chefs if Chefs are present. Hanger Techs are not miners, Physicians are not FR's nor are they surgeons and vise versa. Command is about driving story, but it also upholds the HRP and making sure people are able to do the role they picked. Is some shitty Doctor breaking into Pharma and making drugs when there is a Pharma there? Demote 'em and send 'em out. Some Surgeon in GTR butting their way into patients with Physicians around? Get 'em to stop, they keep going, demote, send out. It fits into Hailey's character, but Hailey feels too lax with medical and it's operations. Medical is your baby, don't let people mess up your baby. I'd argue I'm a pretty big judge on CMO's- I like my quality. Kelnor can take my +1 -
[Accepted] Kelnor - Command White List Application
LordPwner replied to Kelnor's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
Outside of forgetting their Ckey and discord nerd I do have to say Hailey has been a good RP partner on ship, done very well- Knows their limits in knowledge and works around them. I think the only note I'd have for anyone going for HoD (Head of Departments - Because HoS is Security, you dork) is that the they are not 'required' to be an expert- Don't shoehorn extra skills on just because "it's what people except a ___ to do-" Because their position is a leadership one- don't have to know everything, but should be able to direct. Be Hailey and have fun leading medical through hell and back ❤️ +1 -
BYOND Key: LordPwner Game ID: cki-bfMk Player Byond Key/Character name: Fluffyghost || 'Ben Donitz' Staff involved: I ahelped with Yonni and two mods on, got no response on the first round (Like two rounds before posted), ahelped about writing up the complaint, thought I'd need their Ckey. Reason for complaint: It is a LIST. So- At first they diverged from Lore STUPIDLY HARD as in- never read it or did not care if they did read it. Claiming things like: Ben Donitz invented cryogenics They were a practicing Doctor (While being an Intern) They knew nothing of 'modern 2464' times No idea about our present setting That there were human+Orango breeding programs (Two rounds before this one- after the event hosted by Read on 10/7/2022 or the round right after that. That they had killed 100's of people to invent cryogenics. As a Doctor- they don't ANY of the basic chemicals, even after having multiple characters explain to them, their (being the chemicals) uses and where to get them. Now I had LOOC'd them and was like- 'Hey, it seems like you don't know our setting here's the new player lore to catch you up' considering during event round, they had just come on and wanted to be trained surgery in the last ten minutes. Which is fine, ya know, learn intern, learn! I figured they knew somewhat what was happening since they did surgical sites fine- they threw out odd terms, clearly nothing that was used or said on ship ECMO for adrenaline- tarcor for something? Just odd little things- Which at first I though, Oh- this is like a med student with an undiagnosed disorder- This is actually interesting- (Lets ignore the fact that they claimed to be 'already studied psych, just need surgical training'. But then they started with the comments you see above- Now he did all this while an intern role- which is alright? I guess? Interns aren't meant to know things, but I laid it on thick ICly that they were an intern and therefore lacking knowledge- After that, they then moved to 'Physician' while learning nothing. It tells me they didn't like being referred to as 'intern' but in an OOCly sense. So they moved into a position they are not ready for. Just in the Game ID posted they killed two simple monkey jobs by missing the most basic of stuff, and had to be told REPEATEDLY to fix a wound, to get med out of a Nanomed. Now later into said Game-ID on top of being a Psychologist, Practicing Doctor, and scientist- They're also a soldier. That fought for the Solarians around 2260-2270? Born 2249 for sure- asked 'em to repeat that a few times. Now maybe this isn't so bad, maybe this is just the greatest character of all time and I just don't see it. But that thought they planted in my head, that this is some, super wild amazing, yet annoying character in the works crashed and burned when I opened their medical records. Yes I marked them as 'Insane', Ben as a character needs meds. But- this tells me- they want the invented cryostasis as canon- which argues all the other wild and insane stuff they talk about, ask about is also a 'canon' for them. Which is arguably more Mary Sue than Uriel Evans' first thirty rounds as Captain. Scary times I know, but all in the past. Records are from the companies standpoint and not our characters, you don't generate your records when you get hired, they do a back ground check on you. It really just seems like this character is a 'I'm everything and super cool, and forget your lore because I'm too old and badass for that' which just shatters immersion- It's not believable that the SCC would hire someone who clearly can't pass basic training for their job, can't pass a psych evaluation, and most important has prewritten job hindering disorders in their records. Operating on someone- or just reading a scan- well you hurt them. Not sure what they'll see or do. As an example Nursie/WitchBells' Mari has a few noted issues/syndromes, but they aren't things that would ICly heavily impact them- things I thought were pretty neat and good at setting their character apart while being reasonable. I tried, I really tried to sit down and understand Ben, to see if it was just me, but no- It's just too much- Everything they sent kept pulling me out of immersion and kinda killed rounds because it just DOES NOT fit with anything. Have a minor-mid delusion? Like- 'I'm the best Doctor ever' as an Intern- where you try to take over patient while having no idea what to do? Would be funny for a few rounds honestly. But it's at the level where it just stops roleplay with me. The Doctor, Scientist, Psychologist, Soldier needs to be looked at and redone in my opinion. Zane is aggressive throughout these rounds, but hey- it's frustrating having a player that doesn't know what's going on, and trying to be helpful just flat out ignore and blow it off. And just stomp all over the scene, killing it for you. Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? I tried to ahelp the issue- first was ignored/miss, as this progressed, felt the need to just make a complaint. Approximate Date/Time: 10/8/2022 2:12 AM Pacific Standard Time Chat long 053600 provided by Hailey Wise / Kelnor as they didn't crash mid round RIP RIP RIP SS13_Chat_Log_2022-10-08_033450.html SS13_Chat_Log_2022-10-08_053600.html
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I liked RP'ing with them, they did well with my antag! ❤️ +1 -
Now- I late joined this round, so I don't have the total context for this round fully. These are more so questions based on things I observed Joel doing. The round in question is ciR-aBGM A technomacer round. Literally just happened so it should be fresh in people's minds. Once again, isn't an attack, but as someone who wants to play Command, it's good to look at the thought process at arguably questionable actions. The Technomancer was: Witness Of The End Of Eternity as a Technomancer (survived) Bought Gambit, Instability Tap, Mark, Recall, Passwall, Destabilize, Abjuration, Apportation, Audible Deception, Illusion, Chroma, Condensation, Shared Burden, Haste and Radiance, and used an unstable core. So- 1) why did Carter as Operations Manager/Miner put himself near as everyone described as a basically a massive bomb that Arche was trying to remove? Scientist- make sense, they are subject matter experts in all things bluespacey/strange 2) Why was he ordering security with Reed standing less than four tiles away from him? Why did Joel not let the HoS handle his department? (This is an OOC question as much as an IC one, since Reed could have been typing orders to them) 3) Why did Joel go with security up to the pool with Carmine and the bomb again? Security had been updated in front of Joel on their location- (I believe Joel also updated them, unsure if he said it on radio) so why did he once again put himself in a by far more dangerous situation then the first question, since even as Joel said, trying to destroy it might cause it to explode. Since I never like putting people on the edge of judgement without explaining myself as an act of good faith: 1) Zane was gearing to assist to Arche in suit removal, whatever capacity that could be- Seeing as that she seemed to be struggling- Which tbh I would have too lol 2) Zane refused to take any charge of medical, since no information, but asked for info from his department- got a kind of a half-reply. Which is why he asked allowed to the ever growing crowd of people outside the OR, Two scientist, a Detective, and an officer 3) Zane did not respond to the pool since going to a place with something that can explode can be harmful- They had a first responder if any wounded came about [spoiler] Now to answer the concerns as to why I am writing this, asking you Chadster is ever since I was whitelisted for Uriel to be HoP and later moved him to Captain Most Useless man in the seven sectors, I've had to ask these questions every round. Why would I as this command member do X- As command, we set a sort of precedent on the level of HRP that others should be looking towards, and not to save every whitelist holder is a better RP'er than those without and vise versa. Just that people who have whitelist have shown to have met certain qualifications and standards in terms of roleplay, antag involvement, and how they interact within the round. Bitching that security isn't doing their job to their HoS or just in public because it's actually insane what they're doing? Thumbs up, all day every day, make 'em regret playing Red Department. Ordering Officers around when they already have a superior and your character has no experience in their line of work- A little yikes imho Now some of this as an issue falls on the general players forcing themselves into the interaction because it's fun for them as characters and roles that have 0 business in that interaction. I get it, antag make story, RP go brr. It's just all something to keep in mind and I'm really excited to hear your answers to my questions and I do hope you keep the whitelist, I actually really enjoy Joel as a character and I want to see what else you do with 'em! [/spoiler] tl;dr Try to think about a character in your chosen position, authority, and experience would do- Deferring to other Heads of Staff is sometimes the best sign of an RP'er, a person willing to step back and just let ones in those roles handle their situations. Also call Zane Doctor smh smh first naming a Doctor, -1
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So- as a pretty hardcore med player- my last week has been basically all day med as Zane. There are two things that could be done here: 1.) Prestock the fridge with some basic meds, or enough that if it's rationed, medical may not need a chem that round 2.) Allow Physicians and arguably surgeons to make basic meds, they already make Tricord with Inaprov-Dylo, Regen Muscle with Pen and Inaprov- I don't see the problem of the lighter medicines being made by them and then harder stuff, both production and administration (to give them something to do if they want) be handled by themselves. Unless there is an active queue of people who need prescription, which doesn't happen anymore, your first 15-30 is made meds, then just hang out and restock as supply/time allows. Not much else to do.