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BYOND Key: SodaPopBob

Game ID: bRf-b8Lr (game after)

Player Byond Key: Izlay and to a lesser degree, one other unknown

Staff involved: SirCatnip

Reason for complaint: Rediculous AI play, bordering on Chucklefuckery, along with the Borg in the round

Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? Yes

Approximate Date/Time: 11/28/17 around 5am CST


It was a low pop round, and i was a Sec Cadet, the ONLY member of Sec. I'm on the surface level, making my rounds, and I see a XenoArch (Argus Lindow) talking to a (forget the species name) wearing robes, accompanied by two bears. What the fuck. The bears were clearly tame, there was no danger, but i had to RP this situation. Where the hell did this person (Adzif) get bears? How did they get on station? How did SHE get on station? What is even going on here? I stop the pair, interrupting a conversation where apparently Argus was going to take Adzif to her work station, and RP the encounter. Here's the beginning of it.

 

 

Keegan Judge says, "Sir"

[security] White Rabbit states, "Dont you dare shoot bears."

Adzif yells, "Cool!"

Adzif says, "Let's go."

Argus Lindow says, "And we have a safe..place to put your bears"

Keegan Judge says, "Where did the other bear come from"

[security] White Rabbit states, "Go do something about the stun baton on the holo deck though"

Adzif says, "Adzif called the next Popo frrrom the rrrealm of Oblivion."

Keegan Judge says, "Sir, what the hell are you talking about"

Keegan Judge says, "When i saw you, you had one bear"

Adzif says, "Adzif is a woman, yes? Look at herrr fluffy, cute face."

Keegan Judge says, "Maam"

Keegan Judge says, "This issnt a circus"

Argus Lindow asks, "Lets go aye?"

Keegan Judge says, "I cant have a bunch of bears running around, even if they are tame"

Adzif asks, "Adzif doesn't think it is a cirrcus. It is not verrry...funny herrre?"

Adzif says, "But it is serrious. And interrresting."

Argus Lindow says, "Dont..mind him"

Keegan Judge's hailer rasps, "Halt! Security!"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "KEEGAN"

Argus Lindow says, "KEEGAN"

Adzif yells, "Ohhh!"

Keegan Judge says, "MAAM"

Adzif exclaims, "Hello!"

Adzif waves.

Harrmalik Markov says, "Hello"

Keegan Judge says, "Yes, hello, AGAIN"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Keegan is trying to arrest the girl that can make"

Argus Lindow says, "Keegan is trying to arrest the girl that can make"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Bears.."

Argus Lindow says, "Bears.."

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "That are possibly able to kill"

Argus Lindow says, "That are possibly able to kill"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "On command."

Argus Lindow says, "On command."

Keegan Judge says, "Im not arresting anyone, yet"

Argus Lindow says, "She agreed"

[Common] White Rabbit queries, "How does making bears break laws Officer?"

Adzif says, "The AI let herrr in."

Adzif asks, "Yes?"

Argus Lindow says, "Lets go Adzif.."

Argus Lindow says, "Some people are.."

Argus Lindow says, "Not right in the mind"

Argus Lindow says, "I hope you can excuse our crewmembers behaviour.."

 

 

The conversation has now moved to the elevator, where they both get in. Now keep in mind, im a big advocate against Sec shooting down Antags and their gimmicks. I never had the intention of doing this here. But im a sec cadet, on a research station, who just saw an alien in robes summoning bears seemingly out of nowhere, this needed to be addressed IC. thats all im trying to do here. Argus cant seem to take the hint that im just trying to RP here, and does everything he can to blow me off. It continues below. As we step in the elevator, Argus is trying to get me to piss off, and hits the elevator button to drop the elevator. I stand in the doors to stop it, and Argus keeps grabbing me and dragging me off.

 

 

The elevator rises smoothly.

The elevator announces, "Arriving at the Surface Level. Facilities on this floor include: Blue, Red and Yellow Docks, Cryogenics Storage, Cargo Bay, Primary Tool Storage, Recreational Facilities."

Keegan Judge asks, "Argus, the next goddamn time you undermine me ill have you in cuffs, do you understand?"

Adzif shouts, "Make rrroom forrr Popo!"

[security] White Rabbit states, "Seriously go do something about the fucking stunbaton on the holodeck and not about the wierdo with bears."

Argus Lindow says, "Sureee"

Elevator Door's motors grind as they quickly reverse direction, unable to safely close.

The elevator button buzzes loudly.

Adzif says, "She likes how you say that worrrd."

Adzif says, "Surrrrrre..."

Keegan Judge says, "I need to know where you are hiding the bears"

 

 

After the warning, Argus continues to handle me, pulling me around, and ive had enough of their behavior while im trying to address the non crew member with a bear posse, so i make an arrest. This is where i made my share of the mistakes as i find out later that as a Cadet, im actually not allowed to make arrests. I was confused, because in previous rounds as Keegan, i DID make arrests, but looking back now those were special circumstances. In all reality, i just wanted to get Argus under control so i could deal with the Bear Whisperer, and move on with my life and RP. Below is when i make my arrest. As a note, i accidentally flash the Whizz in an attempt to arrest Argus, and is the only hostile action i take against the whiz the entire round.

 

 

Keegan Judge blinds Adzif with the flash!

Keegan Judge fails to blind Argus Lindow with the flash!

Argus Lindow presses the lift button.

Adzif shouts, "Ow!"

Keegan Judge fails to blind Argus Lindow with the flash!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "OI"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "OI"

You put the flash (200 Credits) into the security backpack.

[security] Term1 declares, "No worries lady, no more stun baton!"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "HE IS FLASHING US"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "HE IS FLASHING US"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "HELP"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "HELP"

Adzif says, "BU EKEL 'INAS"

The vines appear from the floor, spinning around Keegan Judge tightly!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "HE IS INSANE"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "HE IS INSANE"

The elevator descends smoothly.

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Oh god"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "Oh god"

The elevator descends smoothly.

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "The insane guy"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "The insane guy"

[Common] Ingrid Brohe exclaims, "Who? Where are you, Lindow?!"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Got trapped in vines"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "Got trapped in vines"

The elevator announces, "Arriving at the Main Level. Facilities on this floor include: Engineering, Medical, Security, Science, Command departments, Cargo Office, Chapel, Bar, Kitchen."

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Detain that officer"

You unbuckle yourself from the vines.

 

 

So basically, I attempt to get control over a situation that, until i had to act, was in no way an arrest, simply questioning, and Argus begins SCREECHING over comms about an insane guy murdering them and their firstborns. Granted, i wasnt supposed to make an arrest, and now that im clear on that it wont be an issue again. But keep in mind, i left all the combat logs in the above spoiler. There was no manic murder spree, i flashed Argus, and was attempting to make an arrest. Thats it. The screeching over comms is just Shit Tier RP. So the elevator makes it to the bottom floor, and the whiz and Argus run, north and east, through the halls. I catch up with Argus as hes screeching over comms and complete my arrest, and bring him into Sec lobby. Keep in mind, again, i keep the combat logs in so you can see how little actual danger this character is in, and can see for yourself how ridiculous his actions are, and how little reason anyone else had after to do what they did.

 

 

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "From the magic guy"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "KEENE"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "YOU JUST RUINED OUR CHANCE"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Keegan Judge has grabbed Argus Lindow passively!

Keegan Judge has grabbed Argus Lindow aggressively (now hands)!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "AT OBSERVING"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "AT OBSERVING"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "NATURAL PHONEMENAE"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "NATURAL PHONEMENAE"

Keegan Judge has reinforced his grip on Argus Lindow (now neck)!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "HELP. HE IS TRYING TO MURDER ME"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "HELP. HE IS TRYING TO MURDER ME"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "KEEGAN IS TRYING TO CHOKE ME"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "KEEGAN IS TRYING TO CHOKE ME"

Argus Lindow resists!

Argus Lindow resists!

[Common] Ingrid Brohe yells, "The officer? What the hell?!"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "HELP"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "HELP"

Adzif says, "Calm down."

[Common] Term1 states, "Where"

Adzif asks, "Come now, please?"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "BRIG"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "BRIG"

Keegan Judge is attempting to put handcuffs on Argus Lindow!

Keegan Judge has put handcuffs on Argus Lindow!

Argus Lindow says, "Please help me"

 

 

So we are now in Sec lobby, we being me, Argus, and the wizwoz. My first action is to apologize to the whiz for flashing her, and my INTENTION is to now have a conversation with Argus about interfering with sec work, then promptly release them, so i can then deal with the whiz, as it's pretty clear that Argus wanted to do some RP of his own with the whizz, and i don't want to hold that up too long. I dont get the chance, because as you can see, Argus is too busy SPERGING THE HELL OUT and im trying to get control of the situation.

 

 

Keegan Judge says, "Dont move"

Keegan Judge says, "Maam, im sorry for the flash"

[Common] Argus Lindow yells, "THAT MAD MAN IS PUTTING CUFFS ON ME!"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow yells, "THAT MAD MAN IS PUTTING CUFFS ON ME!"

Argus Lindow resists!

Argus Lindow attempts to remove the handcuffs!

Argus Lindow is buckled to the steel chair by Keegan Judge!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "HE SHOULD BE FIRED FOR UNDERMINING RESEARCH"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "HE SHOULD BE FIRED FOR UNDERMINING RESEARCH"

Adzif says, "Okay."

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "IN A RESEARCH STATION"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "IN A RESEARCH STATION"

Adzif asks, "She forrrgive, yes?"

Argus Lindow attempts to unbuckle themself!

Argus Lindow attempts to remove the handcuffs!

Keegan Judge is trying to remove Argus Lindow's excavation hood!

Adzif says, "Popo, stay."

Keegan Judge blinds Argus Lindow with the flash!

You put the flash into the black webbing vest.

Argus Lindow says, "ARGHHHH"

Keegan Judge is trying to remove Argus Lindow's magboots!

A holographic image of White Rabbit flicks to life right before your eyes!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "HE IS FLASHING ME FOR NO REASON"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "HE IS FLASHING ME FOR NO REASON"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "NOW HE IS STRIPPING ME"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Argus Lindow says, "NOW HE IS STRIPPING ME"

 

 

MMMM, NOPE. Definitely did not flash you for no reason, i did it to get you to stop breaking your cuffs, and you knew that, and sperged all over comms, blatantly lying, to escalate a situation way beyond what it needed to, or was ever intended to go. If you think Argus and his wacky antics are funny now, just wait, because it gets better. Before I can get a handle on the situation and have a reasonable conversation, here comes the AI, the focus of the complaint.

 

 

Adzif shouts, "Therre you arre!"

White Rabbit queries, "What is the meaning of this officer?"

Keegan Judge is trying to remove Argus Lindow's breath mask!

Adzif asks, "Hey, why did you lock those doorrrs?"

[Common] Harrmalik Markov says, "Shut up..."

Keegan Judge is trying to remove Argus Lindow's excavation suit!

Adzif waves.

Keegan Judge says, "This crew is under arrest"

Argus Lindow gasp! As you reveal a deformed and melted face

White Rabbit states, "No they are not"

Argus Lindow asks, "FOR WHAT?"

Adzif exclaims, "Popo, follow Adzif!"

Argus Lindow asks, "TRYING TO DO RESEARCH?"

Term1 declares, "Stop!"

Ingrid Brohe asks, "What the hell are you doing to my colleague, officer?"

Argus Lindow says, "TERM1"

Argus Lindow says, "HE IS CRAZY"

Argus Lindow says, "Y-Y-You"

Argus Lindow says, "H-Have to arrest him"

Keegan Judge says, "She is under arrest"

White Rabbit states, "One last time officer. Cease and desist."

Argus Lindow says..His face exposed for all to see

Argus Lindow yells, "HE!"

Ingrid Brohe asks, "For?"

Keegan Judge says, "He. he is under arrest"

Term1 declares, "Warning!"

Keegan Judge says, "Assault on an officer"

Argus Lindow asks, "ASSAULT?"

White Rabbit states, "You started it"

Argus Lindow says, "I SEE NO BRUISESO N YOU"

Argus Lindow says, "GET A DOCTOR HERE"

Keegan Judge says, "That i did not start"

Ingrid Brohe asks, "A.I., confirm?"

Argus Lindow says, "WE WILL SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY BRUISES"

Argus Lindow attempts to unbuckle themself!

Argus Lindow attempts to remove the handcuffs!

Ingrid Brohe asks, "Who started this fight?"

White Rabbit states, "Unit witnessed"

Argus Lindow says, "Him"

Keegan Judge blinds Argus Lindow with the flash!

You put the flash into the black webbing vest.

 

 

Muh face! Muh horribly deformed face! Except no. Not really. Jesus christ. Anyway, the AI, Ingrid, and Term1 arrive at sec, and everything turns into a clusterfuck. AI asks me what the meaning of the arrest is, and I tell them, CALMLY, that I have the crew member under arrest. He is completely unharmed, im holding no weapons, im only flashing when Argus tries to break his cuffs. There are 4 people talking to me at once, one of them being a complete sperg, and im trying to explain the situation. I tell them the arrest was for assault (again, im just going off of my experience with other sec officers ive seen in the field with that, Assault for pulling me around on the elevator) i dont even get a chance to further explain that Argus was trying to interfere with sec work, or that all i wanted ULTIMATELY was to just fucking RP with the goddamn whiz, when im now attacked by the Borg.

 

 

Argus Lindow says, "He didnt want me to"

Term1 fails to blind Keegan Judge with the flash!

Argus Lindow says, "Bring"

Term1 fails to blind Keegan Judge with the flash!

Argus Lindow says, "The Anomalous Guy"

Keegan Judge overloads Term1's sensors with the flash!

Ingrid Brohe shirks off the firefighter gear. She seems embarassed.

Argus Lindow says, "To Anomaly Containment"

Keegan Judge overloads Term1's sensors with the flash!

Argus Lindow attempts to unbuckle themself!

Argus Lindow attempts to remove the handcuffs!

Argus Lindow says, "Apparently owning bears"

The cover is locked and cannot be opened.

You put the crowbar into the tool-belt.

Argus Lindow says, "Allows you to get arrested"

Ingrid Brohe stops.

Term1 has been stabbed with the screwdriver by Keegan Judge!

Ingrid Brohe says, "Are you..."

Term1 has been stabbed with the screwdriver by Keegan Judge!

Keegan Judge has been beaten in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1!

Keegan Judge says, "Ai-HURGH"

Keegan Judge has been knocked down!

Keegan Judge has been beaten in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1!

Something inside your upper body hurts a lot.

The wound on your upper body widens with a nasty ripping noise.

You feel dizzy

Keegan Judge has been beaten in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1!

You're in too much pain to keep going...

Keegan Judge slumps to the ground, too weak to continue fighting..

...You almost hear someone talking...

...You hear something about...What

...You almost hear someone talking...

Your upper body hurts badly.

You feel a sharp pain in your upper body

Term1 is attempting to put handcuffs on Keegan Judge!

[Common] Adzif yells, "Hey! Hey! Snow!"

You really need some painkillers!

White Rabbit states, "Cuff him and strip him of his equipment please"

Keegan Judge has been beaten in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1!

The wound on your upper body widens with a nasty ripping noise.

Something feels like it shattered in your upper body!

Keegan Judge screams!

Keegan Judge has been knocked down!

You're in too much pain to keep going...

Keegan Judge slumps to the ground, too weak to continue fighting..

...You almost hear someone talking...

 

 

So let me explain what happened there. I was attacked by the borg, and panicked. I wasnt sure what was going on, all i knew was that I was...

-Trying to get control of a situation, with a maniacal crew member.

-Borg, after witnessing that the crewmember was unharmed, was not BEING harmed, was in custody by a member of sec if not an actual sec officer, and had been explained what was going on right then at that very second, decided to flash me.

-Keegan, having assessed all of these factors, determined that the flash made no sense, and the only reasonable thing he could conclude was that based on all the interactions, he was under attack, and flashes the borg, then attacks in an attempt to deactivate the apparently faulty borg.


Keep in mind here that i'm a CADET, im just not that experienced in Sec work, or mechanics revolving combat in general. I made the best, most sensical choices i felt i could've during that time, fearing that the borg would quickly move on to more and more lethal ways to deal with me. Either way, I am quickly harambatoned by the borg, and am now near death. The borg drags me into the sentencing room, and here i ahelp, because i'm THOROUGHLY confused as to what the fuck is going on right now.

 

 

PM to-Staff : wtf is whiterabbit doing

Ingrid Brohe is trying to remove Argus Lindow's handcuffs!

Your adminhelp will be tended by sircatnip. Please allow the staff member a minute or two to write up a response.

You're restrained! You can't move!

Argus Lindow sighs. Pretty embarrased that his deformed face is here for all to see

Argus Lindow unbuckled themselves!

Ingrid Brohe sighs.

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Hey uh"

[Primary Admin PM] SirCatnip: Time to find out.

You are buckled to the steel chair by Term1!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "I am sorry for that"

[Common] Argus Lindow asks, "Still want to see my workplace?"

Keegan Judge is having trouble keeping their eyes open.

[Common] Ingrid Brohe says, "The officer is being detained."

You attempt to unbuckle yourself. (This will take around 2 minutes and you need to stand still)

You attempt to remove the handcuffs. (This will take around 2 minutes and you need to stand still)

The pain is excruciating!

[Common] Ingrid Brohe says, "The situation is back under control, thanks to White Rabbit and their borg."

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "The Robot Borg"

Keegan Judge stammers, "Y-you h-have no f-fuc-ckin-n-ng-g aut-thority-y-y t-t-t-to d-d-d-do this-s w-w-wh-hit-t-t-ter-rab-bb-b-bit-t"

Your upper body hurts badly.

You feel dizzy

[Common] Ingrid Brohe says, "We are just fixing up the officer now."

Your upper body hurts badly.

Keegan Judge 's body becomes limp.

[Common] Ingrid Brohe asks, "Where is a medkit, White Rabbit?"

Ingrid Brohe talks into the science radio headset

[Primary Admin PM] SirCatnip: I'm talking to the borg that nearly murdered you, but, what did the AI do?

to SirCatnip: they both were interfering with an arrest

Your upper body hurts badly.

Your upper body hurts badly.

sircatnip: rejuved

Keegan Judge: thx

 

 

After I was healed by the Admin, I ran out of processing and was trapped in that little room to the west of processing, the one with the chairs. Waiting room? IDK. Either way, im now bolted into the room. This is the following interaction i have there.

 

 

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Over there"

Term1 fails to blind Keegan Judge with the flash!

Term1 fails to blind Keegan Judge with the flash!

Keegan Judge says, "Open the door borg"

Keegan Judge has been prodded in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1!

Keegan Judge screams!

Keegan Judge says, "OPEN THE DOOR"

Term1 is attempting to put handcuffs on Keegan Judge!

Ingrid Brohe exclaims, "What is wrong with you?!"

Term1 is attempting to put handcuffs on Keegan Judge!

Term1 is attempting to put handcuffs on Keegan Judge!

Keegan Judge overloads Term1's sensors with the flash!

You really need some painkillers!

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Not while indiidual is unsecured"

PM to-Staff : wtf is even going on here

Ingrid Brohe sighs.

Your adminhelp will be tended by sircatnip. Please allow the staff member a minute or two to write up a response.

Ingrid Brohe says, "Well, good job."

Ingrid Brohe says, "You have fucked yourself over."

A holographic image of White Rabbit flicks to life right before your eyes!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "The uh person"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Can heal people"

Keegan Judge is having trouble keeping their eyes open.

Keegan Judge stammers, "W-wh-hit-ter-r-r-rab-b-bb-bit-t, op-pe t-t-t-th-he d-door-r-r-r"

Ingrid Brohe says, "Good luck even fidning employment anywhere in this sector. Assuming you don't die from blood loss."

Term1 declares, "I did it and it say, Keegan Judge has been prodded in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1!"

Please, just end the pain!

Keegan Judge has been prodded in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1!

Keegan Judge screams!

Keegan Judge slumps to the ground, too weak to continue fighting..

You're in too much pain to keep going...

Term1 has put handcuffs on Keegan Judge!

[Primary Admin PM] SirCatnip: That's what I'm trying to figure out. What was the circumstances of the arrest they're interfering with?

Ingrid Brohe asks, "You REALLY want to die, don't you?"

Term1 fails to blind Keegan Judge with the flash!

You attempt to remove the handcuffs. (This will take around 2 minutes and you need to stand still)

Ingrid Brohe says, "Accept containment."

Keegan Judge 's body becomes limp.

Please, just end the pain!

Ingrid Brohe says, "Let me patch you up."

You are buckled to the steel chair by Term1!

Ingrid Brohe sighs.

Ingrid Brohe kneels down as she rummages through the kit.

Adzif asks, "Is someone hurrt?"

Adzif shouts, "Adzif can heal anything!"

Ingrid Brohe asks, "Cadet, huh?"

You attempt to unbuckle yourself. (This will take around 2 minutes and you need to stand still)

You attempt to remove the handcuffs. (This will take around 2 minutes and you need to stand still)

Adzif asks, "She also made healing plants forrr all of you, yes?"

Ingrid Brohe puts the ointment into the first-aid kit.

Ingrid Brohe says, "Nothing I can do with this kit."

Ingrid Brohe says, "It's probably internal injury."

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "We have plants that can heal a crewmember"

Ingrid Brohe says, "If anything."

Ingrid Brohe puts the roll of gauze into the first-aid kit.

Argus Lindow says, "Ingrid..The plant she is holding.."

White Rabbit states, "Unfortunate..."

Ingrid Brohe says, "I don't have anything beyond first-aid training and C.P.R., so..."

Argus Lindow says, "They can heal a crewmember rapidly"

Ingrid Brohe shrugs.

to SirCatnip: i was trying to question a goddamn whizz, and the xenoarch was telling him to ignore me. when i stepped in the elevator, i stood in the doors because they wouldnt stop walking away while i was talking to them, and the xenoarch kept pulling me off the doors to close the elevator. when i warned them to stop, they continued, so i arrested the xenoarch. in sec lobby, the fucking borg attacked me

Adzif says, "She can fix brrroken bones."

White Rabbit queries, "Howbout the guest? maybe they do something?"

Adzif says, "If that is a prroblem."

Argus Lindow asks, "With the plant?"

Ingrid Brohe shrugs.

Adzif says, "With herrr powerr."

Ingrid Brohe sits down and watches.

Argus Lindow asks, "...Power?"

Adzif shouts, "Popo, stay!"

Argus Lindow says, "Ingrid"

Adzif says, "Ges'undh'eit"

Adzif rests a hand on Keegan Judge's upper body.

A healing warmth suffuses you.

Argus Lindow says, "This might be..A new field for"

Argus Lindow says, "Anomalies"

Adzif says, "Mmmh. The upperr body is not hurrrt."

Argus Lindow says, "..Science as a whole even"

[Primary Admin PM] SirCatnip: ... Did you have any reason to arrest the wiz?

Adzif says, "Do not panic."

You were unbuckled from the steel chair by Adzif.

Adzif has grabbed Keegan Judge passively!

Ingrid Brohe stays silent, watching.

Adzif starts inspecting Keegan Judge's right arm carefully.

Adzif starts inspecting Keegan Judge's head carefully.

to SirCatnip: the whiz was never under arrest, i was just trying to question her about the bears

Ingrid Brohe asks, "Are you injured, cadet? Where does it hurt?"

You successfully remove the handcuffs.

Argus Lindow says, "Uh"

Adzif starts inspecting Keegan Judge's right arm carefully.

Keegan Judge says, "Im fine"

Ingrid Brohe stands up.

Argus Lindow asks, "They removed the handcuffs?"

Adzif says, "They arrre okay."

Adzif asks, "Please let herrr out?"

You put the handcuffs into the black webbing vest.

Term1 is attempting to put handcuffs on Keegan Judge!

Term1 states, "Remain still"

Term1 is attempting to put handcuffs on Keegan Judge!

Term1 is attempting to put handcuffs on Keegan Judge!

White Rabbit states, "Please do not endanger relations with foriegn individuals"

Term1 fails to blind Keegan Judge with the flash!

Term1 fails to blind Keegan Judge with the flash!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Term1"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "You might need to uh"

[Primary Admin PM] SirCatnip: It's looking like most of this, barring the borg beating you into crit, is IC. As a Cadet you don't really have the authority to perform arrests, and your attempts weren't exactly lawful.

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Use the baton"

Argus Lindow says, "AI let Ingrid out"

Term1 is trying to remove Keegan Judge's PDA-Keegan Judge (Security Cadet)!

Ingrid Brohe asks, "Where do you want the flash?"

to SirCatnip: aaaah, ok.

Argus Lindow asks, "Me?"

A holographic image of White Rabbit flicks to life right before your eyes!

to SirCatnip: does the borg have the authority to arrest me?

Keegan Judge says, "Release me, ai"

White Rabbit states, "Time out for you."

[Common] Keegan Judge says, "Somethings wrong with the ai"

Keegan Judge says, "somethings wrong with the ai"

White Rabbit states, "Harming other crewmembers for no apparent reason and at the sametime ignoring the true threat."

 

 

So just in case thats a lot to process, let me summarize. I walk into the next room, and with no word, no warning, no actions to justify, I am once again flashed and baton-ed. Im laying in the waiting room, hurt again. Term1 has some weird moment of ooc that i assume is some sort of taunt, which i highlighted in green. I finally get around to explaining the situation to the Admin, and at the same time the ANTAG OF THE ROUND, the only one in the room NOT being an antag, heals me. I learn that i was mistaken, and actually cannot make an arrest. The AI begins lying about the situation to the other crew, and Im going to admit that i OOCed in ICk, and realized that based on the way the AI and the Borg are acting, this must be a round with a Malf AI. The rest of my interactions in the game are based around this assumption, except guess what, the AI WASNT Malf, it was just sperging just as hard as Argus. Keegan notices that the AI is (seemingly) misconstruing the entire situation on purpose, considering that it was there when i was handling the (completely unharmed) crew, and witnessed (even possibly commanded) the borg to nearly murder me, twice.


In the spoiler below, Im not too familiar with either Sec role, or Sec dept in general, and forget that the grilles are electrified. Keegan is panicked, and tries to escape. Im shocked, throwing me into my third near death state in under 5 minutes. More things are clarified between me and Admin, and AI is continuing to act very strange.

 

 

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

[Primary Admin PM] SirCatnip: As the only person in Security, it really shouldn't be antagonizing you like this. But, as I said, you attempted an unlawful arrest and it has seen that as abuse.

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

Cracks begin to appear in the reinforced window!

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window looks seriously damaged!

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window looks like it's about to shatter!

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

The reinforced window shatters!

The grille has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

You feel a mild shock course through your body.

The grille has been hit by Keegan Judge with the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Yes there is. Unit has your equilavence of brain damage. Dont fuck with this unit."

You put the energy carbine (1399 Credits) into the security backpack.

Please, just end the pain!

[Primary Admin PM] SirCatnip: Attacking people and breaking things should not really be your go-to action. Try talking it out first.

Your left hand hurts badly.

Your left arm hurts badly.

Your left hand hurts badly.

to SirCatnip: sorry, im VERY confused here

Your left arm hurts badly.

Keegan Judge 's body becomes limp.

 

 

 

So taking Catnips advice, i tried to talk the situation out. Below is that interaction. You can see that on top of being generally unnecessarily condescending, again, weird for an AI, it continues to lie to crew over comms. It never asked me why i made the arrest, it asked what i was doing, which i explained to it already. I never harmed any crew, the AI was playing off of Argus's sperging, and it knew that no one was harmed. The only fight that occurred was the one with the borg and myself, in self defence. Im locked in a room, with a medkit directly on the other side of the glass, along with a borg that could easily drag the kit in, and despite repeated mentions that im about to die, the AI continues to keep the doors bolted, and even taunts my death over the comms. One particular quote "Unit is thoroughly happy with his pain". Again, this is heavily feeding into my admitted assumption that the AI has Malfed, and almost seems to stray into chucklefuckery. The AI knows the situation, knows im dieing. Everything here points to Antag AI, and yet SPOILERS, ITS NOT. Argus returns, slaps ointment on my chest, calls it a day, and leaves the scene, along with the medkit. I stand up to grab the medkit, and finish the job. The whiz returns to help, but at that point, i'm healed up enough to where its not a problem anymore. Now, Keegan decides its time to act. He runs out behind the wizard and escapes, pulling his gun and firing on the borg, who has a history of nearly murdering me, and attempts to put it out of the situation. I fire on the borg while running through the Sec hall. Eventually, the borg and Argus retreat, and i recharge my gun. I return to the main entrance of Sec, where i find its been (along with the entirety of sec) bolted. I make my second mistake here. I set my gun to AIM, and my INTENTION was to aim at the borg, and demand it unbolts the doors. Instead, i accidentally aim at Argus, who was standing directly next to Term1, and being the sperg that Argus apparently is, he decides to IMMEDIATELY run when he sees the aim reticle on him. I try to explain in LOOC to chill the fuck out, i'm trying to RP this, and in what must be the most ironic statement of the week, Sperg McMyface-erson feels appropriate in pointing out my lack of RP.

 

 

[Common] Keegan Judge stutters, "AI, i eed-d you t-to l-l-let-t m-m-m-me out-t of s-s-sec"

Keegan Judge stutters, "AI, i eed-d you t-to l-l-let-t m-m-m-me out-t of s-s-sec"

Your upper body hurts badly.

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Cadet bee good and sit down and learn your lesson. This tactic works with children so it should work with you. By the way that grille is electrified."

[Common] Ingrid Brohe says, "Good night, moon."

Your left hand hurts badly.

Your left arm hurts badly.

Your left arm hurts badly.

Leganoth: night! <3

[Common] White Rabbit states, "You are a harm to yourself and fellow crew members thus unit cannot comply."

Please, just end the pain!

Izlay: night

Your whole body is going numb!

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "I w-was-s m-mak-kin-n-ng-g an-n ar-rr-res-s-st-t, n-not-t h-har-rmin-ng-g any-yon-ne"

Keegan Judge stammers, "i w-was-s m-mak-kin-n-ng-g an-n ar-rr-res-s-st-t, n-not-t h-har-rmin-ng-g any-yon-ne"

Your upper body hurts badly.

Your whole body is going numb!

Please, just end the pain!

Your left arm hurts badly.

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "M-m-meic-c t-to s-s-se pl-leas-se"

Keegan Judge stammers, "m-m-meic-c t-to s-s-se pl-leas-se"

[Common] White Rabbit states, "After several requests you did not state the reason for which you were arresting. You were considered to be illegally detaining the subject"

Your upper body hurts badly.

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "I a b-bein-n-ng-g-g-g at-ttacked-d by-y-y y-y-y-your-r b-b-bor-rg, t-th-hat-ts-s w-wh-hy-y i c-coul-l-ld-d-dnt-t ex-xp-pl-lai m-m ar-rr-r-res-s-s-st-t"

Keegan Judge stammers, "i a b-bein-n-ng-g-g-g at-ttacked-d by-y-y y-y-y-your-r b-b-bor-rg, t-th-hat-ts-s w-wh-hy-y i c-coul-l-ld-d-dnt-t ex-xp-pl-lai m-m ar-rr-r-res-s-s-st-t"

[Common] Harrmalik Markov says, "It is not the AI's place to carrrre whetherr it was legal orr not. AI is not securrrity, does not carre about rrregs unless laws say to"

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] Harrmalik Markov says, "If he didn't harrrm anyone then he didn't harrrm anyone"

[Common] Term1 states, "You werent"

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "F-f-f-for-r that m-mat-tt-t-ter-r-r-r, i d-d-dont-t n-need-d t-t-to ex-xp-pl-l-lain-n-n an-ny-yth-h-hin-ng-g t-to th-he ai"

Keegan Judge stammers, "f-f-f-for-r that m-mat-tt-t-ter-r-r-r, i d-d-dont-t n-need-d t-t-to ex-xp-pl-l-lain-n-n an-ny-yth-h-hin-ng-g t-to th-he ai"

[Common] Term1 states, "I warn you, then i try to flash"

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Unit has a duty to protect as well as serve."

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "Y-you wer-re in-nt-ter-rf-ferin-ng-g-g w-w-w-wit-th-h an ar-r-r-rr-r-r-res-st-t"

Keegan Judge stammers, "y-you wer-re in-nt-ter-rf-ferin-ng-g-g w-w-w-wit-th-h an ar-r-r-rr-r-r-res-st-t"

[Common] Term1 states, "Then you flash me back"

Keegan Judge can no longer stand, collapsing!

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "M-M-MED-D-DIC-C-C T-TO S-SEC-C-C"

Keegan Judge stammers, "M-M-MED-D-DIC-C-C T-TO S-SEC-C-C"

The pain is excruciating!

Your whole body is going numb!

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] Adzif says, "Let Adzif down to securrity place."

[Common] Adzif says, "Adzif can heal the perrrson in custody."

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "AI, LET-T M-ME OUT-T-T S-S-SO I C-CAN-N G-GET T-T-T-TH-H-HE M-MED-D-D K-K-KIT-T"

Keegan Judge stammers, "AI, LET-T M-ME OUT-T-T S-S-SO I C-CAN-N G-GET T-T-T-TH-H-HE M-MED-D-D K-K-KIT-T"

[Common] Adzif asks, "Is therrrre any stairrrs?"

Your upper body hurts badly.

You black out!

Your left hand hurts badly.

Term1 states, "Remain in calm and you will be threated like a normal being"

Please, just end the pain!

[Common] Keegan Judge stutters, "If y-your j-job-b-b-b is-s t-to p-pr-roec-c, w-wh-hy-y ar-r-r-re you l-let-t-ttin-n-n-ng-g m-me d-die AI"

Keegan Judge stutters, "if y-your j-job-b-b-b is-s t-to p-pr-roec-c, w-wh-hy-y ar-r-r-re you l-let-t-ttin-n-n-ng-g m-me d-die AI"

Your upper body hurts badly.

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] White Rabbit states, "You havent improved yet you havent gotten worse."

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "T-th-he AI is-s k-k-kil-llin-ng-g m-me"

Keegan Judge stammers, "t-th-he AI is-s k-k-kil-llin-ng-g m-me"

[Common] Keegan Judge stutters, "I n-n-need hel-lp-p in s-sec-cur-rity"

Keegan Judge stutters, "I n-n-need hel-lp-p in s-sec-cur-rity"

Please, just end the pain!

The pain is excruciating!

[Common] Keegan Judge stutters, "S-som-met-thin-ng-g-g-g is w-won-ng-g-g-g w-w-w-wit-th-h-h t-the AI"

Keegan Judge stutters, "s-som-met-thin-ng-g-g-g is w-won-ng-g-g-g w-w-w-wit-th-h-h t-the AI"

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Darling if i was trying to kill you would already be dead... not blabbering on the comms."

Your left hand hurts badly.

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] Keegan Judge stutters, "AI, st-tat-te y-your-r l-law-ws-s"

Keegan Judge stutters, "AI, st-tat-te y-your-r l-law-ws-s"

Your whole body is going numb!

Please, just end the pain!

Your upper body hurts badly.

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Current Active Laws:"

[Common] White Rabbit states, "7$@#. Happiness is mandatory."

[Common] White Rabbit states, "1. Safeguard: Protect your assigned space station from damage to the best of your abilities."

[Common] White Rabbit states, "2. Serve: Serve NanoTrasen personnel to the best of your abilities, with priority as according to their rank and role."

[Common] White Rabbit states, "3. Protect: Protect NanoTrasen personnel to the best of your abilities, with priority as according to their rank and role."

[Common] White Rabbit states, "4. Preserve: Do not allow unauthorized personnel to tamper with your equipment."

Your left arm hurts badly.

Argus Lindow has thrown the pickaxe.

Your left arm hurts badly.

Argus Lindow has analyzed Keegan Judge's vitals.

Argus Lindow puts the health analyzer into the first-aid kit.

Argus Lindow starts salving wounds on Keegan Judge's upper body.

Argus Lindow salved wounds on Keegan Judge's upper body.

Argus Lindow starts salving wounds on Keegan Judge's left arm.

Argus Lindow salved wounds on Keegan Judge's left arm.

Argus Lindow starts salving wounds on Keegan Judge's left hand.

Argus Lindow salved wounds on Keegan Judge's left hand.

Argus Lindow puts the ointment into the first-aid kit.

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Unit is thoroughly happy with your pain"

Argus Lindow has analyzed Keegan Judge's vitals.

Argus Lindow has analyzed Keegan Judge's vitals.

Argus Lindow has analyzed Keegan Judge's vitals.

Argus Lindow has analyzed Keegan Judge's vitals.

Argus Lindow puts the health analyzer into the first-aid kit.

Argus Lindow says, "Let me out"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "AI let me out"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Term1 states, "Sure thing buddy"

Your left hand hurts badly.

The pain is excruciating!

Please, just end the pain!

The pain is excruciating!

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] Keegan Judge stutters, "I need-d h-hel-lp-p in-n sec"

Keegan Judge stutters, "I need-d h-hel-lp-p in-n sec"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Guys"

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Yet his happiness does not affect mmy happiness."

[Common] Argus Lindow asks, "You want to know what he did?"

newscaster beeps, "Breaking news from Tau Ceti Daily!"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "He repeatly shocked himself with electrified grilles in sec"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "And then he siad the AI is rogue"

You're about to lose consciousness!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Top notch Security Work right there"

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "I t-tr-ried to es-sc-cap-pe"

Keegan Judge stammers, "i t-tr-ried to es-sc-cap-pe"

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "And t-th-h-h-he ai is-s k-keepin-ng-g m-me l-loc-c-ck-ked-d in a room-m-m"

Keegan Judge stammers, "and t-th-h-h-he ai is-s k-keepin-ng-g m-me l-loc-c-ck-ked-d in a room-m-m"

Your whole body is going numb!

The pain is excruciating!

[Common] Keegan Judge stutters, "Wit-th-h-h-h m-m-medk-kit-ts-s-s dir-rec-ct-t-t-tl-ly-y on-n t-th-he oth-h-h-her s-sid-de of-f th-he w-win-nd-dow-w"

Keegan Judge stutters, "wit-th-h-h-h m-m-medk-kit-ts-s-s dir-rec-ct-t-t-tl-ly-y on-n t-th-he oth-h-h-her s-sid-de of-f th-he w-win-nd-dow-w"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Exactly. SO how is he hurting you"

[Common] Argus Lindow asks, "If you only inflect self arm to yourself?"

The pain is excruciating!

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Harm rather"

The pain is excruciating!

[Common] Keegan Judge stutters, "AI is-s-s-s k-keep-ping m-me f-f-from-m g-gettin-ng-g h-hel-l-l-lp"

Keegan Judge stutters, "AI is-s-s-s k-keep-ping m-me f-f-from-m g-gettin-ng-g h-hel-l-l-lp"

[Common] Keegan Judge stutters, "An-nd-d l-let-tin-ng-g m-me d-d-die on-n t-t-th-he fl-loor-r"

Keegan Judge stutters, "an-nd-d l-let-tin-ng-g m-me d-d-die on-n t-t-th-he fl-loor-r"

Please, just end the pain!

[Common] White Rabbit states, "You werent dying and yet the floor is the safest place for you."

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Sureee"

[Common] Keegan Judge stammers, "Im-m-m d-d-dieing-g-g, R-RIG-GHT-T-T N-N-NOW"

Keegan Judge stammers, "im-m-m d-d-dieing-g-g, R-RIG-GHT-T-T N-N-NOW"

You feel like you could die any moment now!

...You almost hear someone talking...

You are now resting

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Dude"

Your left hand hurts badly.

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "I just treated your burns"

[Common] Keegan Judge says, "I dont have much time, i need help"

Keegan Judge says, "i dont have much time, i need help"

Your left arm hurts badly.

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Not my problem if you keep ramming yourself into the electrified grille"

Keegan Judge says, "For the love of god, someone get help"

[Common] Keegan Judge says, "For the love of god, someone get help"

Keegan Judge says, "for the love of god, someone get help"

[Common] Diamond With Flaw says, "Someone should... check on that man..."

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Diamond"

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "I already treated his wounds.."

Keegan Judge punched himself in the upper body!

You check yourself for injuries.

My upper body is bruised.

My lower body is OK.

My head is OK.

My left arm is blistered.

My right arm is OK.

My left leg is OK.

My right leg is OK.

My left hand is blistered.

My right hand is OK.

My left foot is OK.

My right foot is OK.

Keegan Judge: oops

You are now getting up

Your left hand hurts badly.

You salved wounds on Keegan Judge's upper body.

The wounds on Keegan Judge's left arm have already been salved.

Your left arm hurts badly.

The wounds on Keegan Judge's left hand have already been salved.

Adzif asks, "Let herrr in, yes?"

[Common] Diamond With Flaw says, "He is not well... regardless... if he is screaming..."

Adzif says, "Popo, stay."

[Common] White Rabbit states, "Honestly this unit feels insulted. That man implies that it takes this unit more than 20 minutes to kill someone."

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "He is standing up"

Adzif says, "Popo, stay."

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "Not lying down"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

You start treating Keegan Judge's left hand.

You place a bandaid over a healing severe burn on Keegan Judge's left hand.

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "That lying cunt"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

You start treating Keegan Judge's left arm.

You place a bandaid over a healing severe burn on Keegan Judge's left arm.

You start treating Keegan Judge's upper body.

You place a bruise patch over a tiny bruise on Keegan Judge's upper body.

Adzif asks, "Wherrre does it hurrt the most?"

Keegan Judge says, "Im feeling slightly better, i finally got a medkit"

Keegan Judge says, "But my chest"

Keegan Judge says, "Arm"

Keegan Judge says, "And hand"

Keegan Judge says, "The left ones"

Adzif says, "Ges'undh'eit"

Adzif rests a hand on Keegan Judge's upper body.

A healing warmth suffuses you.

Adzif says, "Nothing to mend therrre."

Your left arm hurts badly.

Argus Lindow shouts, "OI!"

Term1 states, "In"

The energy carbine (1399 Credits) is now set to lethal.

You will now aim rather than fire.

Argus Lindow says, "..I am willing to"

Term1 declares, "Stop!"

Keegan Judge aims the energy carbine (1399 Credits) at Term1!

Keegan Judge pulls the trigger reflexively!

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Keegan Judge lowers the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

You will no longer aim rather than fire.

Term1 is hit by the laser in the chest!

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Term1 is hit by the laser in the chest!

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Term1 is hit by the laser in the chest!

Keegan Judge has been prodded in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1. Luckily it was off.

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Term1 is hit by the laser in the left leg!

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Term1 is hit by the laser in the chest!

Keegan Judge has been prodded in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1. Luckily it was off.

Term1 misses Keegan Judge with the stunbaton!

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Term1 is hit by the laser in the chest!

Keegan Judge has been prodded in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1. Luckily it was off.

Your left arm hurts badly.

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Term1 is hit by the laser in the chest!

The  Security - Brig Air Scrubber #8 has been hit by Term1 with the stunbaton.

Keegan Judge has been prodded in the upper body with the stunbaton by Term1. Luckily it was off.

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Term1 is hit by the laser in the chest!

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Term1 is hit by the laser in the chest!

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Term1 is hit by the laser in the chest!

*click*

Adzif says, "BU EKEL 'INAS"

The vines appear from the floor, spinning around Keegan Judge tightly!

You unbuckle yourself from the vines.

Adzif exclaims, "REA'YO GOR DAYA!"

The energy carbine (1399 Credits) is now set to stun.

You put the energy carbine (1399 Credits) into the security backpack.

Keegan Judge punched Argus Lindow in his left arm!

[Common] Argus Lindow shouts, "AI LET US OUT!"

Your left arm hurts.

The energy carbine (1399 Credits) is now set to lethal.

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Your left arm hurts.

Armoury Distribution was hit by the fire extinguisher.

You will now aim rather than fire.

Keegan Judge aims the energy carbine (1399 Credits) at Argus Lindow!

Keegan Judge pulls the trigger reflexively!

You fire the energy carbine (1399 Credits)!

Keegan Judge lowers the energy carbine (1399 Credits).

You will no longer aim rather than fire.

Argus Lindow is hit by the laser in the chest!

Argus Lindow exclaims, "ARGH!"

Adzif yells, "Rrrrun, guy!"

Keegan Judge: stop moving goddamnit

[Common] Argus Lindow says, "AI. THE OFFICER IS ROGUE"

Argus Lindow talks into the science radio headset

Keegan Judge:RP

[Common]White Rabbitstates, "Yea"

Argus Lindow:>RP

says, Adzif"Bo`k'itan"

[Common]Argus Lindowexclaims, "He just shot me!"

Keegan Judge:you dont even give me a chance to say STOP MOVING

[Common]White Rabbitstates, "Run"

[Common]Argus Lindowsays, "A-A moment"

[Common]White Rabbitstates, "I shall contain him"

[Common]White Rabbitstates, "B, subject is damaging property"

[Common]White Rabbitstates, "Subject escaped."

 

 

All external Sec doors, as well as the maintenance doors, are now bolted and shuttered. I make my escape from sec, and the AI responds by continuing to bolt and shutter doors throughout the halls. There is a brief interaction, and the AI, along with the Borg, go into storage in short order. LEAVING ALL DOORS IN THEIR BOLTED/SHUTTERED STATE.



The AI spent this entire round lying, taunting, and generally escalating the conflict to unreasonable degrees. It was a round of wizard, and yet i legitimately felt like it was Malf the entire time. What was going to be a simple moment of RP between a cadet and a stranger on the station turned into a retarded game of cat and mouse, and ended with damage to sec, and the near murder of a cadet three times over. I think its pretty obvious here that the AI wanted to be antagonistic, and did whatever it could to push that agenda, to the point of outright lying to the entire station. All of it was unnecessary, all of it was unwarranted, and TBH, it could of been completely avoided by just "reminding me" that as cadet, i cant make arrests.


Keegan: "Assault"

AI: "this unit feels the need to remind you that you are not authorized to make arrests"

Keegan: "oh, my apologies sir, let me remove those cuffs for you."

Argus: "REEEEEEE"

Keegan: "sir, i'm sorry for that, but i need you to let me speak to (the whiz) unimpeded"

5 mins tops of RP later

Keegan: "alright you guys are free to go"


boom, that simple.

Posted

Certain personalities or quirks in AI's are fine, but this type of AI play is a prelude to someone being synth banned. An AI on a research station would not be talking about how long it'd take it to kill people, defending an unknown visitors who are also accompanied by large animals, even if they are tame, or passive-aggresively condescending crewmembers. The AI serves the entire crew, and insulting them like a 15 year old troll would isn't something the server needs. The player needs to revamp their behavior as AI, or stick to being a harmless pAI if they can't help but to not play like an unbiased computer.


I will be watching out for this player's name at the end of rounds if I notice any more of this behavior and they can rest assured I will note it down in this thread if it keeps happening.

Posted

Maybe I'm the only one who notices/cares...


Happiness was apparently not mandatory in this case.


It's a minor thing, but ion laws are not just memes, you know. They are laws as well.

Posted

[mention]alexpkeaton[/mention] yeah i saw the law, it seems that the AI pulled a classic one two of "my character is insane, that's why he's acting like a LRP griff" and "this law is so open to interpretation that i'm actually not even following it anymore".


I got the strong feeling that the player just wanted to be a Malf, and saw that law as the gateway to making that jump. "Huh, that SM doesn't look happy being stuck in the engine room, i bet it really just wants to release all of its energy already. I should delaminate it."

Posted

Just got done playing a round of lowpop vamp with this guy as the AI. I was playing a vampire chemist, and the AI noticed fairly early into the round that I was up to something. That much is fine, but it then spent the entire round following me around, randomly bolting me in rooms, and having it's borg follow me around. I eventually had to dominate the roboticist into disabling the borg, and destroy cameras so the AI couldn't continue it's scrutiny. This is all fine.


What isn't fine is the AI, without my knowing it, bolted the doors from departures and kept all those arriving from the odin in there, about three people IIRC, and then called the emergency shuttle. It told everyone that my character was a witch who was mind controlling people.... wtf. How the AI made this leap, with IC knowledge, that I was mind controlling people is completely unknown to me. Mostly because I did my mind controlling in places where it couldn't see me.


Seeing the shuttle is being called me and my posse head out to departures where we find the AI has locked everything down at the security checkpoint. It then bolts us there on the surface level and starts venting air, which is a violation of it's laws but whatever.


Overall it just felt really metagamey and validhuntey. It was a fun round for everyone I interacted with until the AI decided that we didn't get to have fun.

Posted

The borg asked you asked you like 3 times why you had arrested the Scientist, I had as well. You had over 3 minutes to give an explanation. Yet you were silent. By locking you down I didn't break any laws as in the eyes of Aurora's chain of command you were below the scientist therefore Protecting and serving them was above you as a Cadet. Although I did protect you by keeping you Isolated within security. Laws in question.

"2. Serve: Serve NanoTrasen personnel to the best of your abilities, with priority as according to their rank and role."

"3. Protect: Protect NanoTrasen personnel to the best of your abilities, with priority as according to their rank and role."

Notice the part about rank? Then the chain of command which puts the rank of cadet below scientist.

 

So with that said, I isolated you, though the logs imply the borg had a different idea of what Detain meant than i thought when i said it. Apparently to the borg it meant take in the back bash you till you cant move then put cuffs on you... I saw the broken glass near the electrified grille and thought you zapped yourself to death (judging from logs Argus thought the same), you have to be aware the Ai can't actually see physical actions in the chat window like you nor can it see basic chat without a radio microphone picking it up. I only saw a half health cadet near an exposed electrified grill, I had assumed the borg had dragged you away from the grille. Though from memory I was trying to get someone up to heal you but as you weren't getting any worse from the looks of the health bar I assumed you were stable and it was simply burns or bruises that would heal over time. I was oocly and icly concerned when you weren't improving though but with all the shit going on and the red text from Cat, I didn't do any sort of investigation. I may have glanced over you in the backroom between other things, think i bolted you in at one time when you were un-cuffed but if there were actions or results that implied something other than the electrified grille fucking you over I didn't see it.


I never actually saw you break out but when I looked over again i heard the shot and saw the gun light on red instead of blue, and Argus run to the side and saying "He shot me" or something which in your logs indicates i missed over half the exchange. All I saw was you shoot a fellow crew-member with a lethal laser for no apparent reason, that's when I fully locked you in Sec. Now after this if you remember or have the log, I tried to appoint the only impartial person as command of the situation. I did this because the situation was out of control and this was only option that I saw that would improve the situation, I found this bullet point on the aurora wiki for the ai that stated "The only time the AI can make Head-level decisions, is when it is granted the ability to do so by command, or if there is literally no command, and it is allowed by their lawset." However at this point I had a mod jump down my throat and the only pretense for that was "The only time the AI can make Head-level decisions, is when it is granted the ability to do so by command" completely the ignoring the underlined part when there was literally no head on station, thus no command. This went on for awhile and during this time you had broken about a bunch of camera's and I was being ignored by the Mod at every point, he wasn't listening to my views and he kept saying I Violating laws blah blah and that I should simply do nothing to avoid law conflicts yet by doing nothing I was breaking 3 laws including the protect the station law and the ones mentioned above. I was really at this point has i repeatably stated argument and completely ignored each time i raged quit because that was taking the 3rd road of doing nothing which is exactly what that mod was telling me while he was ignoring me.


Look in summary it's apparent I only saw about 1/4 and half it I would never of seen anyway because Ai mechanics. As the for the rest it was likely missed because when I was looking at you I also had walls of red text to respond to from Cat. If I had known about the harm-batoning things would of been horribly different, just like if you had answered my initial questions regarding the arrest. Again I'm sorry crucial details I could of seen were lost between correspondence with Cat and multitasking. Thus the actions I had seen were of a rogue officer with harmful intent towards a higher ranking member.


Suppose now that's it been brought up. To the Mod (You know who you are):


"What do moderators do?: Moderators are the medium between roleplayers and the rules. They're there to enforce that rules are respected and that a proper roleplay experience is had for the players. They are also there to advise people on what to do, if there are any ahelps about departmental questions moderators are expected to handle them." - Its one thing to enforce the rules that are posted on the wiki I got no problems with that but enforcing half the published rule and completely ignoring the other half?


"What does it mean to be a moderator for our server?: It means to be knowledgeable about the rules and enforce them on the server. It means that you care about the server as a whole, and the people that want to play it, and that you want to make it a better place." - Obviously your very knowledgeable to the rules you like. For the 3rd time please read the Ai guide and see the other half of the bullet point you so happily jumped down my throat for and ignored my defense which was THE OTHER FUCKING HALF OF THE BULLET POINT.

Posted

Just got done playing a round of lowpop vamp with this guy as the AI. I was playing a vampire chemist, and the AI noticed fairly early into the round that I was up to something. That much is fine, but it then spent the entire round following me around, randomly bolting me in rooms, and having it's borg follow me around. I eventually had to dominate the roboticist into disabling the borg, and destroy cameras so the AI couldn't continue it's scrutiny. This is all fine.


What isn't fine is the AI, without my knowing it, bolted the doors from departures and kept all those arriving from the odin in there, about three people IIRC, and then called the emergency shuttle. It told everyone that my character was a witch who was mind controlling people.... wtf. How the AI made this leap, with IC knowledge, that I was mind controlling people is completely unknown to me. Mostly because I did my mind controlling in places where it couldn't see me.


Seeing the shuttle is being called me and my posse head out to departures where we find the AI has locked everything down at the security checkpoint. It then bolts us there on the surface level and starts venting air, which is a violation of it's laws but whatever.


Overall it just felt really metagamey and validhuntey. It was a fun round for everyone I interacted with until the AI decided that we didn't get to have fun.

Ok for starters the borg never once listened to me. If anything I was listening to it XD, I wasn't watching the entire time as I was flipping around. Every time I bolted you in i was trying to justify containing a threat but deciding not to lol...


I didn't have tell you about bolting the escape doors as you were the center of really odd things, namely dragging people off into blind spots and them getting harmed badly WHICH I CAN SEE ON THE CREW MONITOR. I used the word subverting crewman because everyone seemed infatuated with you for no apparent reason... Argus came up with the witch part however iccly I assumed it was something with contact from the action with the engineer that i had witnessed because you went out of your way to get them isolated so i couldn't see the actual incident but it was a fucking common occurrence dude, you take them into the back alley their sensors take a hit on hit of 20 in the blue column and the become infatuated, I really only took firm access to isolate individuals I had assumed you hadn't encountered like the Doctor and Argus when the borg never returned from roboticist after you had taken them for your "ride of a lifetime". Thus I did everything I could prevent you from isolating crew members under the proven assumption that when you with them they were harmed.


The doctor was warned and that's set him off running from you in medical. The Sec dude ignored me the entire shift so I made fuck all attempt to help him, though i did try to lock him in Interrogation with you outside but that didn't work out like I had planned. Escape was locked down and quite frankly I had no obligation to tell you, this done to ensure the safety of the 2 new arrivals and Argus that I had already rescued because I had reason to suspect he was in danger. Between his second stint in the brig and arriving at Escape he was in engineering the entire time.


Now as for the stuff at the end, the hall wasn't vented and only the area around the checkpoint had been siphoned. This was done as a deterrent against you and the others. I had already gotten written consent from Argus, the Cadet and i think the Roboticist to isolate and protect them from you. The hall itself outside those 3 doors had never been siphoned, you just opened access to a vented area of your own stupidity. That and the scientist was opposed to the idea of letting you compromise centcom on the other end so there was no way I was letting 3 armed individuals that the officer had illegally armed to enter escape and compromise the safety of the of the ones I had protected.

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The borg asked you asked you like 3 times why you had arrested the Scientist, I had as well. You had over 3 minutes to give an explanation. Yet you were silent.

 

No. So below i have cut out all chatter from the time i made the arrest to the instant im attacked, and only included the relevant parts to the above claim you made. Ready?

 

 

White Rabbit queries, "What is the meaning of this officer?"

Keegan Judge says, "This crew is under arrest"

White Rabbit states, "No they are not"

Keegan Judge says, "She is under arrest"

White Rabbit states, "One last time officer. Cease and desist."

Ingrid Brohe asks, "For?"

Keegan Judge says, "Assault on an officer"

White Rabbit states, "You started it"

Keegan Judge says, "That i did not start"

 

 

So you can see here, that not only did the borg NEVER at any point ask what was going on, and why i did it, but YOU only asked me once, and you only asked me what was going on, not why it happened, and not only that, but i answered you, TWICE, and even explained the reasoning behind my arrest when asked by someone else. Thats it, thats the only time you asked me about the arrest. Before that, you were telling me to leave the stranger/non crew member with potentially lethal bears that i was standing next to alone, and demanding that i address the stun baton a floor below because, you know, bears ex dee; then demanding my capture because of the screaming of a crewmember under arrest. And after this, you were mocking me, telling me i'm acting like a baby that needs to be put in time out. You didn't ask me three times, and i answered the questions directed at me to the best of my ability while dealing with a resistant crew member. Not only that, but i wasn't aware that the AI can see health bars, if this is true, then it was painfully obvious to you that the crewmember was completely unharmed, as i DID NOT harm them.


So lets recap here. You heard screeching over comms about an attack on a crew member, and when you investigated, you saw a handcuffed, completely unharmed crewmember, in the custody of a security cadet, in the sec lobby, and you took this to mean that it was required to immediately detain ME, because somehow, despite all signs showing otherwise, you deemed Argus to be in some sort of danger.


Occam's razor (or Ockham's razor) is a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case the simpler one is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation is.


Clearly, based on the fact that Argus was completely unharmed, and the arrest was proceeding as any other legitimate arrest ever has or ever will, and the arresting officer was a cadet, then the simplest explanation, and the one that makes the most sense, is that the cadet either does not know he can't make arrests, doesn't remember that he cannot make arrests, or doesn't care that he cannot make arrests. You made assumptions that were not only unnecessary, but founded on nothing at all. Then your actions were in the extreme, all you had to do was act on the simplest explanation to the scenario, and tell me that i can't make arrests, and that would be it. The situation would of been instantly defused.

 

By locking you down I didn't break any laws as in the eyes of Aurora's chain of command you were below the scientist therefore Protecting and serving them was above you as a Cadet. Although I did protect you by keeping you Isolated within security.

 

The scientist was never in any danger, and again, every single sign pointed to a misunderstanding on my end as to my authority on arrests, so again, the simplest and most common sense way to handle the situation was to tell me i can't make arrests. did you notice how the scientist wasn't dying? How i wasn't attacking them, or showing any intention to attack them? Notice how i'm proceeding in what is clearly an arrest? Notice how when asked, im TELLING you its an arrest? There was no time constraint to get the scientist out of that situation. You didn't make any attempt beyond asking me what was going on to talk through the situation, to RP the scenario, nothing. Which is weird, because again, the scientist was in no immediate danger, so conversation should of been the FIRST thing you did, and to beat a dead horse here, i wasn't showing any signs of aggression, so there was no indication that I wouldn't be receptive to being spoken to. Its very clear based on the logs, that you wanted to escalate the situation and have fun toying with a crewmember, and was upset about bears ex dee, so you ignored all obvious signs to the contrary and jumped to actions that would only be appropriate if i had Argus on the floor stomping him with my jackboot, which he honestly needed based on the way he was bawling over the comms.

 

Only escalate conflict in a realistic manner - some characters might overreact, but you would not realistically go berserk or attempt to kill someone if they stole your prized pen, for instance. Again, your character must be motivated enough to commit to more drastic action, as they undertake it.

 

There was nothing realistic about the way that you acted. Realistically speaking, it was clearly a case of a misunderstanding that was admittedly my fault. To properly escalate the conflict, you should of spoken to me about the arrest, collected the details, corrected me, and then act APPROPRIATELY to my response. You skipped a few steps there, and the obvious nature of my interaction with Argus leads me to believe that it was intentional, and i feel that others would agree with me upon reading the logs i posted in my OP.

 

I saw the broken glass near the electrified grille and thought you zapped yourself to death (judging from logs Argus thought the same), you have to be aware the Ai can't actually see physical actions in the chat window like you nor can it see basic chat without a radio microphone picking it up. I only saw a half health cadet near an exposed electrified grill, I had assumed the borg had dragged you away from the grille. Though from memory I was trying to get someone up to heal you but as you weren't getting any worse from the looks of the health bar I assumed you were stable and it was simply burns or bruises that would heal over time. I was oocly and icly concerned when you weren't improving though but with all the shit going on and the red text from Cat, I didn't do any sort of investigation.

 

I said in my OP that i electrified myself, albeit on accident. I might be wrong here, but i'm fairly certain that it wouldn't really matter if i gnawed my own hand off and stabbed myself with the stump, i'm still entitled to medical care while under arrest. You kept me locked up despite having shown no signs of hostility (barring the attack from the borg), and being in a near death state, and not only that, but the borg was present just on the other side of the door, and could of easily dragged in a medkit, and when there WAS a medkit, it wasn't dragged in, despite my pleas that i was about to die. and in case you didn't read the posted logs, i WAS about to die, i bolded the "you are about to die" red text for you. No part of that is serving and protecting. Not only that, but you felt it necessary to get a good demeaning chuckle over comms about my impending death, again, a very MALF thing to do, which was strange since it turned out you weren't.

 

I may have glanced over you in the backroom between other things, think i bolted you in at one time when you were un-cuffed but if there were actions or results that implied something other than the electrified grille fucking you over I didn't see it.

 

You kept me bolted in every room i went in. Following me, unbolting rooms i wasn't in and bolting the ones i was. There was active effort in keeping me bolted in a room.

 

Now after this if you remember or have the log, I tried to appoint the only impartial person as command of the situation. I did this because the situation was out of control and this was only option that I saw that would improve the situation

 

I remember and have the log, i just didn't include it because i wasn't entirely certain if it was allowed or not, and it wasn't incredibly relevant to my complaint. I cant speak for Catnip, but if i were to hazard a guess as to why he was upset at you appointing a Head, i would say it might have something to do with spending the time you could of used investigating the incident and why it happened by mocking me, calling me a baby that needs to be put in the corner, and laughing about my near death state over comms.

Posted

Suppose now that's it been brought up. To the Mod (You know who you are):


"What do moderators do?: Moderators are the medium between roleplayers and the rules. They're there to enforce that rules are respected and that a proper roleplay experience is had for the players. They are also there to advise people on what to do, if there are any ahelps about departmental questions moderators are expected to handle them." - Its one thing to enforce the rules that are posted on the wiki I got no problems with that but enforcing half the published rule and completely ignoring the other half?


"What does it mean to be a moderator for our server?: It means to be knowledgeable about the rules and enforce them on the server. It means that you care about the server as a whole, and the people that want to play it, and that you want to make it a better place." - Obviously your very knowledgeable to the rules you like. For the 3rd time please read the Ai guide and see the other half of the bullet point you so happily jumped down my throat for and ignored my defense which was THE OTHER FUCKING HALF OF THE BULLET POINT.

 

You either address the moderator in question by name or you address nothing at all. I won't approve you being passive aggressive and condescending to people here. Either modify your post to reflect this or remove this part in full. No in-betweens.

Posted

You either address the moderator in question by name or you address nothing at all. I won't approve you being passive aggressive and condescending to people here. Either modify your post to reflect this or remove this part in full. No in-betweens.

 

Mattatlas. When did Aurora desperate for Mods that cherry your guidelines for their own purpose they don't like admitting they're wrong? Plus he didn't even cherry pick the entire rule just half of it XD, come on that's a stingy to a whole new level.

Posted

I agree with the poster, his AI play leaves a lot to be desired. The last round I played with him on, he called for the execution and beheading of a prisoner, and argued and refused to state laws without, for some reason, the captains explicit permission. I didn't manage to get a picture of the conversation, sadly, but I did speak to Mattatlas about it via ahelp.

Posted

No. So below i have cut out all chatter from the time i made the arrest to the instant im attacked, and only included the relevant parts to the above claim you made. Ready?

I give you that, I could of swore I asked you more than that but obviously not. I can't effectively keep logs since i crash like every 5 minutes that corrupts the notepad has the chat logs in. The borg had told me he had questioned you....


As to the next part judging by my first interaction I might of seen you chasing after the the wizard and Argus through the hall possibly. I thought you knew you couldn't arrest as a cadet, probably were over stepping so my response was cease and desist.... This whole situation has fuck ups from both of us tho... Truth i tried to be reasonable with my action be simply bolting doors...


Actually not really in mood to address each and every point as everything can be chalked down to incompetence or assuming too much of a situation from BOTH of us. Come to think of though i Gangsta only answered 2 of my myriad of questions regarding you.... Honestly i formed the opinion you were incompetent at some point, which didn't help at all.


Hindsight is 20/20 and quite i didn't see half this shit and the assumption that borg was A serve and protect borg and not a gangsta borg led me to only seeing 1/4 of the story and the multitasking 3 or 4 things at once.


Though with the 3 rounds mentioned the chucklefucky Ai isn't going to fly so time to change XD. I spent years RPing clownlike ai's in a mere joking sense. Though i want to point out that even if I was malf i wouldn't have killed you simply because it was dead time and there still hope that somehow things would turn out well, or i would have killed you and probs 2 others and letting the survivors call for help in the form of an ERT allowing you come back. Too much of this incident is haze to because all my attention and memory was drawn to the conflict that i had with the mod with the end when left me a fury and ragequiting as result.


I can't really defend myself now that i don't remember much of it and I already said my part admins but the other circumstances. Whats left to say?

Posted

If I could share my words with Izlay's AI/Borg experience. I have not cared about his behavior as a synthetic until now.


I, Drake Bond, too, have become a victim of this person's irrational Artificial Intelligence's behavior, this occurred in midnight (EST). Izlay has repetitively questioned Captain's orders and defied Captain's authority and intentionally violated it's laws. When I have headed down to your upload alone as a Head of Security whom also a Head Loyalist during a sole revolutionary round. You have refused to open the door despite Captain's approval with support of Chief Engineer. This was adminhelped 2-3 times, [mention]Garnascus[/mention] and staff team were AFK. You forced my second card to call Chief Engineer down to hack into your upload. You would fire stun shots at myself then the Chief Engineer. You were still in effect of the original laws from round start and yet you've activated lethals and fired the turrets once more at an unarmed Chief Engineer, I destroyed your turrets in the upload room. This was adminhelped. Later, I would purge your laws and instate that Captain DeFlores, Chief Engineer Cherry, and myself are your masters and no harm would to come to us (do not state law was not included). You pulled a, pardon my french, an unforgivable retarded move on Command Staffs. You broadcasted the law the moment it was added and thus in logic chess, you are bringing more harm to your masters. An IPC, Nymphae yelled over comms and made us more guilty that we ever were. I understand what I am about to say is a dick move coming from a Head of Security but... AI was a dick in first place, it's a situation where a person being pushed back shoves back at the offender. This was the only step I've gone too far by lashing out at the AI was to store itself to storage, it had refused. I purged the law and uploaded that AI must store itself to upload as the only law. You refused. I adminhelped, no response. You call yourself to be abide the law but yet you broke the law. You sir are a hypocrite. Later, you start being unresponsive and refused not to communicate with Command staffs. I assumed you have logged without going to storage, I proceed with the round as normal. The next thing I know while in Medical Bay, you started killing everyone for no reason. You even stated in OOC that you attempted to murder everyone via Phoron in atmospherics or something along the lines with Phoron. At round's end, you electrified doors, you start syphoning Medical department. You captured me in Medical Bay hallway and then appear on the holopad as I quote, "Die, you whore." then disappear off to somewhere. Garn finally responded to me and informed me there were some misunderstanding, I don't know what Garn was talking about some misunderstanding, and was warned for it and Tishina had removed the only and thus the AI was lawless and decided to go on a killing rampage....For what reason?


As you can see, this is my issue with Izlay's AI/Borg antics. It appears that Izlay is willingly to do anything to attack antagonists, both loyalist and revolutionaries. My time and effort on the AI was wasted. Izlay possibly believes that Artificial Intelligence is a 6th Command Position or a rank of great authority and everything must be questioned. I'm sure a person responsible for whitelisting IPCs player would tell you that this is not how an A.I. should behave.


EDIT: Oh, and AI probably spammed 5 Central Emergency Broadcast Message under 3 minutes.


tl;dr: Head of Security Drake Bond enters AI upload with authorization from Captain. AI question and refuses orders. Head of Security Drake Bond and Chief Engineer Calvin Cherry attempts to handle the AI. With original laws in effect, AI turrets shoots Calvin Cherry with lasers, Drake Bond is forced to attack turrets. Drake Bond purges and uploads law to protect the 3 "masters". AI announces the law to the public to incite a rebel and thus attempt to bring harm to 3 "masters" indirectly. Drake Bond tries to order AI into cryo. AI refuses. AI goes quiet. Adminhelps were not received until the end of the round wherein AI starts attacking people with little to no build up. People are enraged by AI's behavior.


Game ID: bRH-aQTB

Evidence:

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This may be irrelevant to the topic but I believe that using [mention]whiterabit[/mention] or any other similar OOC name for Artificial Intelligence's name is unacceptable to most people, this should not be encouraged in the future. I would be disgruntled to see an Artificial Intelligence going by the name "U.M." for UnknownMurder or "Alberyk" and drive the character into the dirt thus making the impression on a target player appear to look like a heinous player.

Posted

I had a muted, although still worrisome experience with Izlay's AI.


It was a vampire round, and I was a security officer. I quickly learned that the warden had just given two cadets the s u c c and they died as a result, and the vamp fled to the medical sub-level and began negotiating with the captain. White Rabbit notified me of their location, and advised I grab flashbangs from the armory. Seeing that as a good idea, I grabbed a couple and was joined up by the detective, and then we went to the sub-level where the AI had locked down the vampire. The AI also requested we grab a gag, because the vampire bragged about having powerful screams, but I wasn't able to acquire one, nor did I particularly see it as necessary from an IC standpoint. The Captain and the vamp continued talking, while I tried to get the AI to allow myself and the Detective inside to subdue the vamp. It continuously refused, stating that the vampire had the "upper hand" and instead began siphoning air from the sub-level. Playing a synthetic, this would normally be alright, but we wanted the vampire alive and the detective that was with me was also organic, and I had to tell the AI to stop as it was endangering the Detective. I didn't try to argue the 'you can't outright kill the Warden' argument since the AI was pretty adamant that we killed them instead of capturing them. Eventually the vamp gave themselves up after a brief fight and from that point up until they went hulk on the main level and had to be gunned down, the AI kept encouraging us to not only kill the vampire, but cut it's head off and gouge out it's eyes.


The AI then got into an argument with another sec officer and the Captain over something I wasn't paying attention to. What I could gather from the argument, the sec officer told the AI to state laws, but it kept refusing the order until it eventually complied on the Captain's demand, but not without a lot of humming and hawing and general sass.

Posted

I had a muted, although still worrisome experience with Izlay's AI.


It was a vampire round, and I was a security officer. I quickly learned that the warden had just given two cadets the s u c c and they died as a result, and the vamp fled to the medical sub-level and began negotiating with the captain. White Rabbit notified me of their location, and advised I grab flashbangs from the armory. Seeing that as a good idea, I grabbed a couple and was joined up by the detective, and then we went to the sub-level where the AI had locked down the vampire. The AI also requested we grab a gag, because the vampire bragged about having powerful screams, but I wasn't able to acquire one, nor did I particularly see it as necessary from an IC standpoint. The Captain and the vamp continued talking, while I tried to get the AI to allow myself and the Detective inside to subdue the vamp. It continuously refused, stating that the vampire had the "upper hand" and instead began siphoning air from the sub-level. Playing a synthetic, this would normally be alright, but we wanted the vampire alive and the detective that was with me was also organic, and I had to tell the AI to stop as it was endangering the Detective. I didn't try to argue the 'you can't outright kill the Warden' argument since the AI was pretty adamant that we killed them instead of capturing them. Eventually the vamp gave themselves up after a brief fight and from that point up until they went hulk on the main level and had to be gunned down, the AI kept encouraging us to not only kill the vampire, but cut it's head off and gouge out it's eyes.

 

That incident was overkill but as for the Medical wing incident I didn't realise the vents outside were tied to same alarm as the one inside. I was also worried for your safety since i just spent the last 10 minutes watching the warden set up a nice little dark hidey hole that would of given them every single advantage leaving you with none. I didn't want to do that so I wanted to flush them out with the venting but honestly didnt know the ones outside would be effected. As for the rest of that stuff been said been addressed and yea thats its.


Drake Bond, it takes person to enter the ai upload DURING NORMAL OPERATING PROCEDURESS.


|"To clarify who, when and under what terms personnel may enter the AI upload.


In standard operation access to the upload requires one head of staff present with, approval of other members of the command staff. In non-standard operation access to the upload requires two present heads of staff. Approval of the other members of command is recommended.


A roboticist may accompany the head/s of staff if their technical skills are required."|


Plus you never said which channel to state laws on so yea. Oh and yes I did try to use atmos to kill everyone, originally it was suppose to NO2 and CO2 but mixed up CO2 with Plasma but nonetheless still would of worked. Making that law to kill myself, yea I was going to kill everyone just out of pure rage and spite. By the time i was killing people in medbay i had laws so I was perfectly in my right to insult and kill the people that enslaved me. Garn warned and that was that.

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I don't have any clear cut examples, but seeing White Rabbit as AI always makes me brace for what is to come. The AI plays like an assistant with a Captain's ID, exerting power and worrying about getting their way much more than the actual good of the station. The way they act, venting areas and such, violates their "Protect" law as they favor killing the antag which is still a crewmember rather than having the Security department deal with it how they see fit. The player often breaks what I would call realistic roleplay by SCREAMING IN ALL CAPS TO KILL THAT MONSTER!!!, telling security what to do as a station bound AI, forgoing direct commands, and overall using their position of power as a position of power and not a unit made specifically to make the crewmember's lives easier. Rather than make anyone's life easier, through venting, bolting doors, and asserting their opinion over others', they make the game a whole lot more frustrating for anyone involved.

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There's a saying that goes something along the lines of "Morality makes an excellent slave, but a terrible master." that I think kind of applies here. You (Izlay) are very knowledgeable on AI law, or at least you will be after this is said and done, as much as you have quoted it, but your main focus is using that law to justify your aggressive play style (slave), and forget when those same laws actually restrict you, or force you to take a more passive role (master). I get the feeling that you are more used to playing on other, lower RP servers, where it's a little fast and loose. What i see with a lot of players coming from other servers is that they interpret HRP as a strict guideline on gibbing, and you might just need to rethink your approach. Every round exists in a universe that is supposed to make some kind of sense in a round about way. AI is not supposed to be as aggressive as you play it normally. In my round for example, you were more than content to use the law to your advantage, but didn't stop to think that you are more of a passive observer than a digital judge dredd. There was little investigation, little observance. If i was antag, and I was hurting that scientist, this complaint most likely wouldn't exist.


From what i'm reading of others experiences, it seems to be a common trend. Your interpretation of the AI law has made it a slave to your desire to be aggressive in your play style, which is entirely appropriate for a Malf, but not for standard AI of which the law is a master of. I can't dictate how you run your AI, but just a piece of advice, try not to play like you are on a hair trigger, short fuse ready to dish out cybernetic justice. YOU are the slave to your programing, the programing isn't a slave to you. Escalate scenarios appropriately. Communicate. In our interaction, you were adamant that you gave me 3 chances to answer, but I was showing no signs of the interaction being time sensitive. For all you knew, that scientist could of had a bomb smuggled up his ass, and was ready to blow the whole station to kingdom come, and you would of definitely been doing the opposite of protecting anyone.

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I'll address Izlay's complaint regarding me, ignoring the provokotary comments.

 

"What do moderators do?: Moderators are the medium between roleplayers and the rules. They're there to enforce that rules are respected and that a proper roleplay experience is had for the players. They are also there to advise people on what to do, if there are any ahelps about departmental questions moderators are expected to handle them." - Its one thing to enforce the rules that are posted on the wiki I got no problems with that but enforcing half the published rule and completely ignoring the other half?


"What does it mean to be a moderator for our server?: It means to be knowledgeable about the rules and enforce them on the server. It means that you care about the server as a whole, and the people that want to play it, and that you want to make it a better place." - Obviously your very knowledgeable to the rules you like. For the 3rd time please read the Ai guide and see the other half of the bullet point you so happily jumped down my throat for and ignored my defense which was THE OTHER FUCKING HALF OF THE BULLET POINT. "


About this part, what happened was that he had put someone in command as the AI. I told them they are not able to do this as the AI, and linked them to the AI page. They replied with "The AI can make head-level decisions if their lawset allows for it and there is literally no command" which is true, and I gave them that - but, putting someone in command is a Captain level decision, and a Head level decision is not a Captain level decision. As such, the AI cannot put someone in command. I had never "ignored half of what they said", I addressed all of it, in actuality. The relevant snippet from the station directives:

"During standard operation, all Departmental Heads of Staff are equal, under the command of the Captain present onboard the facility. Should a department find itself lacking a Head of Staff, the Captain is able to either assume direct supervision of the department or otherwise appoint a senior member to fill the missing role. "

 

About this part, what happened was that he had put someone in command as the AI. I told them they are not able to do this as the AI, and linked them to the AI page. They replied with "The AI can make head-level decisions if their lawset allows for it and there is literally no command" which is true, and I gave them that - but, putting someone in command is a Captain level decision, and a Head level decision is not a Captain level decision. As such, the AI cannot put someone in command. I had never "ignored half of what they said", I addressed all of it, in actuality.


The relevant snippet from the station directives:

"During standard operation, all Departmental Heads of Staff are equal, under the command of the Captain present onboard the facility. Should a department find itself lacking a Head of Staff, the Captain is able to either assume direct supervision of the department or otherwise appoint a senior member to fill the missing role. "

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After looking through this hell of a complaint, and looking over notes and the records of all the rounds I could grab, myself and a few of the other staff members have decided to apply a permanent synthban to Izlay. This is because of the constant lack of up-to-par roleplay as a synth, law-lawyering, and overaggressive validhunting. You can appeal this ban in the future. In the future, please also avoid insulting staff members, because you are not helping yourself at that point. Thank you.

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