Buff the telebaton

See title. Bay removed all of the fun functionality out of the telescopic baton and it would be nice to have such a rare and otherwise precious weapon to be given some utility again, since right now it's the equivalent of a pocket toolbox.

I think we should also add some additional interactions with the telescopic baton weighing in chance and such. Grabbing someone in an aggressive grab while telebatonning them increases the chance for the misc. effects. All of these special interactions are assuming the user is on disarm intent with the telescopic baton.

Hit arm: High chance for target to drop whatever they're holding in that arm, small chance for arm dislocation.

Hit leg: High chance for target to drop and suffer a short stun. Low chance for knee dislocation.

Hit hand: If it hits, instantaneous disarm and a fair deal of pain. Low chance for hand/wrist dislocation.

Hit foot: If it hits, short stun. Low chance for foot/ankle dislocation.

Hit groin: High halloss, low damage. Low chance for an immediate fracture, though. Also a cheap lucker dog move, it's rude.

Hit chest: Medium bit of halloss, low chance for breaking a rib.

make telebatons great again

hit face: slight chance for jaw dislocation?

Some more suggestions.

Hit Head: High Halloss, chance to cause brain damage.

Hit Eyes: Enough eye damage to blind.

Hit Mouth: High chance to dislocate the jaws.

Support, its such an awful item now. you used to be able to stun people to the ground by hitting them in the leg with it. Its such a useless weapon now for how rare it is.

As long as that fucking horrible stunlock-and-kill-you synergy with telekinesis is removed. Being in any kind of armour should also protect against the effects. (Hardsuits, Riot Armour, even just normal space suits, etc)

As long as that fucking horrible stunlock-and-kill-you synergy with telekinesis is removed. Being in any kind of armour should also protect against the effects. (Hardsuits, Riot Armour, even just normal space suits, etc)

TK should be gone anyway. TK was particularly broken because of the zero click delay accompanying it.

I'd be cool with hardsuits being totally resistant to it, riot armor also being totally resistant, and voidsuits being somewhat protective against the telebaton.

hit face: slight chance for jaw dislocation?

Pretty sure that beating people on the face with things will dislocate their jaws already, which happened when I smacked someone with an energy sword once. Also, I think that dislocating someone's jaw does nothing in game.

Bump. Please? They're the pocket equivalent of fire extinguishers right now, despite the fact that telescopic batons are meant to be neutralizing weapons.

afaik they only do brute right now, which, I guess would be fine if there were more than just two of them on the station, but since they're only given to the HoS and Captain, they should either get something new/different or get scrapped.

More Support, If it's rare, it should be efficient

I am in full support of this as well. I cannot stand how telebatons are currently.

//Telescopic baton
/obj/item/weapon/melee/telebaton
name = "telescopic baton"
desc = "A compact yet rebalanced personal defense weapon. Can be concealed when folded."
icon = 'icons/obj/weapons.dmi'
icon_state = "telebaton_0"
item_state = "telebaton_0"
flags = FPRINT | TABLEPASS
slot_flags = SLOT_BELT
w_class = 2
force = 3
var/on = 0


/obj/item/weapon/melee/telebaton/attack_self(mob/user as mob)
on = !on
if(on)
	user.visible_message("\red With a flick of their wrist, [user] extends their telescopic baton.",\
	"\red You extend the baton.",\
	"You hear an ominous click.")
	icon_state = "telebaton_1"
	item_state = "telebaton_1"
	w_class = 3
	force = 15//quite robust
	attack_verb = list("smacked", "struck", "slapped")
else
	user.visible_message("\blue [user] collapses their telescopic baton.",\
	"\blue You collapse the baton.",\
	"You hear a click.")
	icon_state = "telebaton_0"
	item_state = "telebaton_0"
	w_class = 2
	force = 3//not so robust now
	attack_verb = list("hit", "punched")

if(istype(user,/mob/living/carbon/human))
	var/mob/living/carbon/human/H = user
	H.update_inv_l_hand()
	H.update_inv_r_hand()

playsound(src.loc, 'sound/weapons/empty.ogg', 50, 1)
add_fingerprint(user)

if(blood_overlay && blood_DNA && (blood_DNA.len >= 1)) //updates blood overlay, if any
	overlays.Cut()//this might delete other item overlays as well but eeeeeeeh

	var/icon/I = new /icon(src.icon, src.icon_state)
	I.Blend(new /icon('icons/effects/blood.dmi', rgb(255,255,255)),ICON_ADD)
	I.Blend(new /icon('icons/effects/blood.dmi', "itemblood"),ICON_MULTIPLY)
	blood_overlay = I

	overlays += blood_overlay

return

/obj/item/weapon/melee/telebaton/attack(mob/target as mob, mob/living/user as mob/*, target_zone*/)
if(on)
	if ((CLUMSY in user.mutations) && prob(50))
		user << "\red You club yourself over the head."
		user.Weaken(3 * force)
		if(ishuman(user))
			var/mob/living/carbon/human/H = user
			H.apply_damage(2*force, BRUTE, "head")
		else
			user.take_organ_damage(2*force)
		return
	if(..())
		playsound(src.loc, "swing_hit", 50, 1, -1)
//			var/obj/item/c_hand							UNFUCK WHEN YOU HAVE TIME AND KNOWLEDGE
//			var/hand
		if(user.zone_sel.selecting == "r_leg" || user.zone_sel.selecting == "l_leg")
			target.Weaken(10) //nerfed, because yes.
/*			if(user.zone_sel.selecting == "l_hand" || user.zone_sel.selecting == "l_arm")
			c_hand = "l_hand"
			target.u_equip(c_hand)
			hand = "left hand"
			user.visible_message("\red [target] screams out in pain and drops what they were holding in their [hand]!")*/
		else
			..()
		return
else
	return ..()

OK just overwrite this in https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/blob/master/code/game/objects/items/weapons/swords_axes_etc.dm and we'll be good to go come next update, yeah?

Only if armour can completely negate the effects so you don't get people telebaton rushing robed Cultists, hardsuitted Nuke Ops, and so forth.

It already does, but it checks for armor first. If the blow is blocked, for instance, by a riot suit, the stun accompanied by the damage won't apply. Instead you just slap the leg and the baton recoils backward. I refuse to outright reward people for being dumb enough to engage a telebaton wielder in close range, regardless of their armor. Folks wouldn't dream of getting into a confrontation with stun batons, should be more of the same for the telescopic variant.

Meaning if the wielder of the baton has the stars align well enough, they can take down a nuke op, but it's unlikely due to melee = 60.

This seems a little overpowered for a telescopic baton. Your code doesn't include any probabilities.

How about making it have a probability of triggering the effect, equal to the damage on that limb, so repeated hits get more likely.

Also are you aware that, unlike most things in dm, the status effects work on whole seconds, not deciseconds?

Weaken(10) will put someone on the floor for 10 seconds, which is basically a one-hit win, since you could just keep hitting their leg to reapply it. Permanant stunlock

This seems a little overpowered for a telescopic baton. Your code doesn't include any probabilities.

How about making it have a probability of triggering the effect, equal to the damage on that limb, so repeated hits get more likely.

Also are you aware that, unlike most things in dm, the status effects work on whole seconds, not deciseconds?

Weaken(10) will put someone on the floor for 10 seconds, which is basically a one-hit win, since you could just keep hitting their leg to reapply it. Permanant stunlock

the probabilities are with armor, you dont get probabilities with guns either, but i agree with delta, if you're stupid enough to melee rush the HoS/captain you deserve to get batoned down, even as a new cop.

This seems a little overpowered for a telescopic baton. Your code doesn't include any probabilities.

It doesn't reflect the original suggestion because it seems there hasn't been any real nodding from the head coder on the matter. "My code" is actually the old Aurora version of this weapon.

It would take too long to create a balanced RNG version of it (unless someone decided to do it for me, wink wink), and even then it would probably be 5x more powerful in terms of utility than the Auroracode telescopic baton. Who knows, though.

Stun batons themselves are way better at stunlocking, they slow you down, limit your actions, they put you into unconsciousness and they take around 3-4 hits to put a nuke op (barring the hardsuit) down, anybody else it's 1-2. Being stunned with a stun baton is about 30 seconds of downtime.

Besides, the telescopic baton should be powerful as there are only two of its kind on the map. It's a valued weapon.

It already does, but it checks for armor first. If the blow is blocked, for instance, by a riot suit, the stun accompanied by the damage won't apply. Instead you just slap the leg and the baton recoils backward. I refuse to outright reward people for being dumb enough to engage a telebaton wielder in close range, regardless of their armor. Folks wouldn't dream of getting into a confrontation with stun batons, should be more of the same for the telescopic variant.

Meaning if the wielder of the baton has the stars align well enough, they can take down a nuke op, but it's unlikely due to melee = 60.

Mate, it's a small metal stick and the people who do engage at close range tend to have swords and variants of swords. They should be rewarded for doing so, especially if they're armoured and they're wielding a weapon that would cut or break the telebaton in half with a parry. Elsewise you get telebaton rushing shitheads like back in the pre-nerf days.

Mate, it's a small metal stick and the people who do engage at close range tend to have swords and variants of swords. They should be rewarded for doing so, especially if they're armoured and they're wielding a weapon that would cut or break the telebaton in half with a parry.

I'm kinda agreeing with this. Other than rarity, i'm not seeing why it should be stronger than a stunbaton, or even equivilant. its not really a high tech thing

It's mean to be the HoS, AKA officer supreme's signature weapon. Hence why it's more powerful than a stun baton, which is my experience is only better than a ghetto stun prod. Police batons, regular stun prods, old telebaton were more useful.

Anyways, I'm in support of these changes. Including Carver's idea of armour negating the effect with armour. The telebaton should be a weapon to be used to disable, not kill.

Anyways, I'm in support of these changes. Including Carver's idea of armour negating the effect with armour. The telebaton should be a weapon to be used to disable, not kill.

Which it already does, so it doesn't matter.

If a HoS is using a telebaton to face off against a sword, they're fucking up. If they actually do face off against someone and don't bother taking into account the massive disadvantage they have from an RP standpoint, they're messing up. I think that's easily reportable.

Maybe the hand/foot hit should have a super-rare chance to break said limb? Lots of small, easily damaged bones in there and all.

I believe the hands and feet have very low break thresholds, Tajaran especially. 30 is the minimum break point, a telescopic baton does 15 brute, so 2 harm strikes basically fuck a dude up.

Nobody except the ERT, a holy wielder of the station-bound combat boots, anyone with hardsuit boot armor or ninja have foot protection, glove protection is a little wider but it's fairly limited to the same amount of sources.

Ignore this, Im an idiot.

PR opened.

https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/524