TishinaStalker

No. God no. Real work needs to be done to make Telescience better for a reason (for both non-antags and antags). Telescience is not delivery or emergency services. Telescience is a research, and still experimental, field. Let me quote Tenenza from the last time somebody wanted extra telecrystals at round start: I'm not trying to shoot you down, but I feel like something different could be done with Telescience rather than "Oh, lets just give us enough crystals to have free access to the entire station at roundstart" or "I am emergency services, give me a console at round start that lets me know where who is." Most telescientists seem to think "I must use Telescience to save people with highly experimental technology" due to the fact that they OOC'ly know that there's no risk behind people teleporting. That contributes to the problem we've had about scientists using their research and experimental prototypes to help people because IC knowledge be damned, OOC knowledge to save lives is what matters in heavy RP.

The only thing I don't understand is why makeup would be contraband.

I would like to state that I was one of those victims. One shot (due to the antag misclicking because he wanted to set himself to aim instead), and my head got blown off my shoulders. That... That is pretty insane.

When taking into account a department, especially security (as it does have very high turnover and non-regulars, even if the regulars are very good), you need to take into account the entire department. Cherry picking examples from the department doesn't change how a department is viewed. Taking into account other servers offers perspective. To make an informed decision on a change or policy, you need to have perspective on the whole manner. That sometimes involves including events that are from other places. An incident with someone trying to get an engineer arrested for testing door wires happened just yesterday to Abdul Nagi. It was the AI, not an officer, trying for the arrest. Nevertheless it was irritating to deal with as I had explicitly asked him to write down the wires and he was hacking the engineering lobby door at the time. And which of those situations on that list happened on Aurora? You sorta swerved past that question. Like... You said for some. I want to know all of them, get me? A more generic view. Alright. Server-specific discussion is why we're here I believe? Thaaaat would fall on Engineering. They're the ones that can keep maintenance doors open to the public in order to get around crime scenes that are blocking off a primary hall. Work together. Communicate. Take your PDA or headset and go "ayyy, Sec, I'mma bolt open some o' dese here maintenance airlocks so that peeps can keep on movin' past yer there crime scene, an' keep the station efficient", and now you have co-departmental relations. Everybody wins. Sec isn't going to go "NO, DON'T YOU DARE MAKE THIS STATION EFFICIENT" because Security personnel (contrary to what you seem to believe) possess higher thinking. I assume this is something that's happened in another server because I have never witnessed this on Aurora, and neither have regular Security members that I've questioned. Noted. Did you ever find out all of the information as to why the timer was increased? It's possible that other things happened such as sparking a manhunt, resisting arrest, etc. Just throwing out possibilities because I haven't seen yet a head of security that arbitrarily throws in charges 4no. raisins. Now, in the case that I'm wrong, I could talk to the player. That would be a head of staff issue because security officers need to follow orders if they want to keep their jobs (which everybody should be worried about IC'ly). So you're telling me that you would rather immediately set the engine and contaminate the scene instead of waiting for Security to finish their investigation, and find out who dun it? Right, that's ONE way to do it, but it will make it even more difficult for Security to find out who dun it, and they'll be free to sabotage more things. Try looking at things from Security's perspective as well. Wiring solars has potential danger? Get a sec escort. This brings me back to my point above about co-departmental relations. Nnnnnno, see. For this part you DEFINITELY can't judge the department based on its new staff. Why? Because this example you gave is something that you would expect from a 30 year old, bald officer. If you want to judge a whole department over that, then I will start to judge all of engineering after all of the engineering apprentices I have seen detonate welder bombs in medbay, and all the atmospherics technicians that have attempted plasma grief. That doesn't sound fair, right? Right. Context matters when judging. Leeeeet me stop you right there real quick. When I said that, I was referring to the bottom of the following page because it's important for your first, second, and fourth points. http://wiki.baystation12.net/index.php?title=Clone_Memory_Disorder#Post_Process Along with that, I suggest reading it because that part of the page is why I'm saying that suicide cloning would be weird. Until the round restarts, you can't just assume "Oh, that person's not gonna be a clone anymore", and need to keep thinking that, that is what the clone is going to be going through after the shift. That's just, like, YOUR character. Your character is not anybody else's character, dude...

If they didn't happen on Aurora, then how are they relevant to the discussion of security personnel on the server? Which of these exactly are the ones that didn't happen on Aurora as well? You fail to mark which ones are those, and as such it makes it sound like "OUR SECURITY DOES THIS AND THIS AND THIS" rather than "Our Security does this, but I've also seen things like this happen in other servers". Know what I mean? I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that any of the regular Security players would do things like these without orders from a Head of Security or Captain (in the case of lacking an HoS). If anything, this sounds more akin to non-regular Security players, and the department as a whole should not be judged over things like that Also, for sake of clarity, when you say "Trying to throw engineers out of their department" who is "their"? As in throw them out of Security or Engineering? I've only ever seen this happen if there's something like a crime scene in the middle of a hall. In which case, you can't really complain about that? If I'm wrong about the situation, then I refer you to my above statement. Thiiiiis depends on where the pipe was, and how well you communicated. Engineer breaks a wall in the bridge to change a pipe, but didn't tell anyone? Yeah, I can definitely see you getting arrested. What exactly was the situation here that you witnessed? I'm genuinely curious about that. This I can see happening if the officer has a vendetta against the character or it's a game mode like RP Revolution. In which case it's sort of an IC issue. It's also fairly common with people who are first timers to Security, in which case I refer you to my first statement. I mean... This seems sort of understandable? Forensic investigations don't normally take too long unless the forensic technician and/or detective is/are new. Not to mention that there's solar panels that can be wired to treat the issue while the investigation is carried out. I assure you that with enough planning and rationing, this situation could've been resolved while security carried out an investigation. All in all, I do not see a negative issue with this. Yeah, no. I apologize, but this really seems like grasping at straws in order to be able to say something. No regular player is going to go "Oh, that person is fixing our department. Lets stop them." Unless they're an antagonist or they're new. Iiiiii personally think this is as much of a slippery slope as cloning criminals. Like, lets not look at invalid suicide because we definitely permit suicide with sufficient IC reason; you just have to request permission and state your case to staff. What's the point of cloning personnel with deep-rooted psychological issues that led them to commit suicide? You need to keep in mind that clones also have to go through psychological therapy post-cloning for months until they come to terms with the fact that they are a clone, and the doctor reveals what really happened and/or finally states "You're a clone, Harry." It's like... You're cloning somebody with suicidal tendencies, and when you do finally reveal that they committed suicide, then things will really go down hill because that's just going to rip open more wounds because of how they died rather than the fact of "I'm a clone". Get what I'm saying?

I hit Infamy 5, and then my friends never played with me again. rip i crai ; ;

Soooo, I'm willing to accept this application, but I don't want to see this character you used as a head of staff without clearing things up with Dea and myself through a private message. As that character stands, they definitely do not look like head of staff material. Alright?

I think we'd all like that, as a matter of fact. You can even submit an app. Anyway, that being your decision on it, I'll accept your custom application. The prefix on your thread will be set to [Processing], and be put in the archives. When the prefix is changed to [Completed], then your chassis will be available for you to use.

Here's my next question... Why not make this available to the public instead? Like, there's a huge difference between clothing custom items, and cyborg custom chassis. There's a myriad of clothing available on-station without custom items, but cyborgs only have 3 icon_states for each module. Get where I'm going with this? This segways me into something I've been wanting to bring up as a suggestion: Lets give this icon_state a specific fluff text that can't be edited. For example: *---------* This is Default Robot-39! Its cover is closed. It appears to be in stand-by mode. [Mandatory fluff text] This is the _____ chassis. It is an older Nanotrasen Robotic Aide model; as shown by its use of quadrupedal legs. [Player's fluff text that can be edited] *---------* If we did something like this, then I'd think it would be pretty neat for the server! You are contributing to the server, having some, small impact on the lore that doesn't really have to go under the lore team's scrutiny (because I'm sure they can let cyborg models pass), and it's still something you can call your own. Ultimately, it's your choice since it's your sprite. Which would you prefer?

I'm just going to leave this here because you never got back to us on this; which is what got your reapplication denied in the first place last time.

Titled changed for clarity.

Do it then. Do keep in mind though that there is an intercom in the office. Soooo, really, the only thing the office is missing is a keycard auth. device. Here's my suggestion if you decide to do that or somebody decides to change the office!: http://gyazo.com/01fed3089828c0f84d4209d61520cb0c Remove the notice board, and replace it with the privacy shutters button on the desk. Remove fire alarm because it is literally useless: http://gyazo.com/9e6083029f9eb76a42f86f2df3ae1ce4 and replace with key authorization device Shift the pen, paper bin, and folder down one square on the desk to leave an empty space in the center.

After going over what I stated above in a third party messenger, this appeal has been accepted. Welcome back.

Definitely not this staff, lol.

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Just something I wanna clear up before I end this appeal: I literally have no reason to deny your appeal. In fact, I would honestly feel like a real jerk if I decided to deny your appeal. Now, I've contacted you over BYOND with a query about something I'm curious about before I approve this appeal. I'm messaging you over BYOND because I feel it's something you would not want to talk about in the public forums. Once that's done, yeah, I'll just gladly lift the ban and approve this.

Hold on, so you're complaining and getting irritated at everything that is paperwork because of the fact that all you had to was type in [/sign]?

So, what exactly was this paperwork that you had to do? What did you have to fill in at the checkpoint?

I apologize, but your application has been denied. If you wish to inquire on why, then send a PM to both DeaTacita and myself.

Application approved. Glory to Aurora

Addiction isn't something that can happen over the course of one shift. It's the body becoming accommodated to tye substance. Not to mention that people can just RP this out without needing to be bothered with a really annoying looking mechanic.

Finally got around to doing this today: Application approved. Glory to Aurora

How does this chassis contribute to roleplay exactly?

... If they think that a ranged 2 or 3 hit (regardless of what the target is wearing) stun weapon is weak, then they clearly don't know the definition of strong.

I can say yes to the die, but the earring seems like something you can just use in your flavor text. I mean, it's literally just a gold earring. A die, on the other hand, would require much less work (due to just taking a simple resprite), and it's something you can take into your hand and actually do something with to tell a tale with. An earring, on the other hand, does nothing.