TheSleepyCatmom

Hello [mention]Coalf[/mention] . I'd like to point out, A Psychiatrist requires an MD in the first place. A psychiatrist with an MD specialization isn't as rare as you think it to be. Maybe being a Neurosurgeon is a little over the top, but it's not impossible nor should it be treated as such. Especially in a world such as this where IPCs can just immediately learn a specialization. Note the Psychiatrist in question would need to be rather old, perhaps in their late 40s to achieve this degree. Yet Rail is one of the oldest IPCs if I recall his discussion with Cake, and as such I'm 95% sure he'd have the time to get a Neurosurgeon specialization normally anyway. Onto Swift, an IPC with a Paramedic specialization, I'm not so sure about this one but I don't see a problem with it. From my point of view, if there was no one else and they had the ability to, they can. But, honestly I do not agree with the Dexalin+. As it requires Phoron to mix Dexalin, I think this would be a little harder to mix ICly. If you can mix this, you can mix most medications that don't require Phoron, imo. But that's just me. Anyway, a Paramedic IRL having knowledge of another medicinal field isn't unheard of, as Paramedics don't go through the same training Doctors do, and as such may still take that training and go through it at a later date. Learning from say, A Chemist or a Doctor in game wouldn't be impossible either.

If I recall correctly, as I was the RD you failed to listen to the entire time while /kidnapping the captain during an extended round with telescience/, and severely disrespected the bureau head when he came, to the point you dodged questions and claimed to be the 'forefront of the field'. But this isn't a player complaint, so I'll leave it at that. I'm simply voicing my grievances with you, as I don't think you'd make a whitelist, or give credit to any race you could pick. But this is my opinion, and I'm sure others have differing ones.

I still don't think I have access to it.

Honestly; From the experiences I've had with your characters I don't really think you'd be a good whitelistee for /any/ race. You're very egotistical ICly with all of your characters, you've shown blatant disregard for superiors orders in the Science Department already if you actually plan on playing this character. You've gone so far as to have CCIA launch formal investigations twice and have a Bureau Admin come to the Aurora during an extended round, whom you didn't even bother being respectful to. I'm going to have to give a -1, I personally don't think you'd make a good Dionae Whitelistee. History has a habit of repeating itself. Especially with you.

Meh; Honestly, I feel this complaint isn't well-grounded as you're only giving examples that look severely outlandish, which would be v rare anyway. As someone who plays on the server a *fucking lot*, I can confidently say while Odin is a goofball, he's not out of the norm for IPCs. And Talc, one who I have little experience with, is still someone who can (and will) be mature, and a good officer when needed. If your issue is the laid-out issues with IPCs and the quirks in their personalities developed to make them who they are, I'd suggest poking Cake with a complaint and getting people to sign it. Otherwise; changing a single IPC when they're following their lore is a little asinine.

[mention]ParadoxSpace[/mention] It was after. I converted Talc, at least, early on and had Noir and Talc forcibly convert Odin. This was within the first... maybe 30 minutes ish.

Allow me to clarify, since you don't seem to get it. All IPCs themselves are subject to quirks of being a free intelligence after a slaved intelligence. Gaining sapience from sentience with the snap of a finger. As such, literally just calling someone 'nerd' or messing around with friends in and of itself isn't unnatural for IPCs, especially IPCs who aren't that old to begin with. Beyond this, IPCs have only been in manufactories within the past 20 years. As such, We haven't had the decades to iron them out as we do Cyborgs or other bound AI. I mean, Cake can correct me if I'm wrong but yeah.

I disagree partially; You call for help from the company, you should known when to step down and let them do their work, without trying to order them around like more security forces. Emergency Responders aren't just standard Mercenaries, they're mercenaries hired by NanoTrasen with the express purpose to unfuck situations people let be fucked. I will agree with this partially as well, however. The captain should still have authority over the crew, however not over the Emergency Responders. I'll agree with taking the ability away from them to simply kick the captain out of his position like 'hey you cant run shit anymore', because I'm guilty of doing it, however I've only done it twice and that's when a CCIA had to be called to make sure our resources as an ERT aren't being wasted. To finish, I both agree and disagree with this change. While I welcome the captain keeping his authority over crew, I will not stand by for ERT simply being treated as extra security forces, when they're not.

I'm glad someone else sees it like I did at least. But yeah, while I'll welcome additions to Psychiatry, I think we need more futuristic options instead of, well as Jackboot aptly put '19th century french psychiatry ward'. If given time, myself and Aimless can come up with better options that'd make more sense to be on a space station, to treat these disorders. I have no issue with the Chaplain being involved in some way, but exorcising mental disabilities isn't quite how I'd like that piece to go down. Since it's not quite realistic, we could always add demonic possession as a 'mental disability'. Like we have Imaginary Friends, and Split Personalities. This would give the chaplain more to do, make exorcisms actually mean something. Medication for these traumas can also be based on real-life equivalents, if we're just treating and not curing. Otherwise, a new medication will need to be thought up.

When I think electroshock therapy in a game, I'm thinking a literal electric chair. If that's not what it's being used as my apologies, but it's not used where I'm from nor is it legal, so I go off of where I am. I should say, its very clear that it's not safe based on the 'drawbacks' of it from the PR itself. Which is what I'm going off of.

No; I'm all for making treatments that'd make sense that don't fuck with people as they would if you're trying to implement it 'correctly'. And I fully expect things to be added for it, not that any of our bitching is going to change anyone's mind. But not a cure-all be-all of mental issues on station. It makes no sense, if we could do this in the first place, why not just make a drug that cures it? You'd be achieving the same thing, and Psychiatrist can still be the RP centered role it is without having change like this. But that's not quite what this is about. The issue I have is these treatments are illegal currently, and even HARMFUL more then they are good. The ones brought up in the PR would be acceptable 500 years ago from current game year, but its' been 500 years. And being as NT is a mainly-human corporation, and [mention]Zundy[/mention] can tell us whether or not humanity has done anything with these in the past so many years, we're going off the assumption it's going to be treated as it is now. Like a crime. You're not going to setup an electric shock chair on a spacestation to cure mental illnesses. You're not going to tell the chaplain to exorcism mental illness from a patient, that'd simply fuck them even more. Have you ever gone through a man, screaming at you with a bible in hand and a rod of obsidian trying to purge demons from you, when you're schizophrenic or paranoid? I'm sure that'll simply end well anyway. Beyond this, Isolation Therapy would be literal torture. 'Therapy'. Its a very wrong term to give something like this, you're locking someone away and doing absolutely nothing with them. This isn't inducing RP, like I can maybe understand the chaplain doing. This is locking someone away because they're ill mentally and hoping to god it'll fix it. This is worse than giving people amnesia from ECT. Look, I understand the want to add mechanics to the Psychiatric role, but I think we need to do it in a way that doesn't involve literal torture methods as 'therapy'. This is 'fun' if you're a sadistic prick. /endrant

I entirely agree. As a medical professional, ECT in and of itself is always a last ditch effort and is /very frowned illegal/ to be used in many countries.. There is no way in hell I'm going to standby with this as a primary option for care of a patient. Nor will I literally let a fucking electric chair be in my medical bay, ever, we're not an execution ward and we all know it's going to be used as it anyway. With my little tiny rant out of the way, we've gone 500 years into the future from when ECT would have been acceptable as a primary care option, and with technological superiority over it and drugs that literally cure 95% of any injuries you can get (literally everything besides bone repair), there has to be better options than "Strap to Chair>Shock the shit out of" Beyond this some of the other therapies are even moreso retarded to have in this game, as the role itself is RP and it shouldn't be long-term solutions as stated.

MAKE is a pretty cool IPC. Though I admit a raincoat poncho is a little weird for a normal on-station person, it does fit into his aesthetic. I'll give a +1 Plus who doesn't like a good Poncho Gang™

Trial Mod 2, The Electric Boogaloo. I'll give a +1, RTN seemed like they were doing well in their last trial that they had to step down from for IRL stuff. So +1

-1 bad ligger. But no, in all honesty I've had good experienced with a few of his characters. Irusole, Delta, even Ku. I think they could make a good whitelist, and hell their story was even better than mine. But that's not saying much, I'm not talented in literature. In all honestly, Skrell are rare and I'd like to see more. I like my squidbois. +1 from me, queen of bad decisions.

I presumed as much. ^.^ Yeah, that's all good for me.

Er, bump?

[mention]TishinaStalker[/mention] I fixed the sprite thing. <3

I didn't want the item, I wanted use of the sprite. But I'll get another thing done then and remove it from the app, and leave the mask. Edit- Misread that. Sorry, Yeah, I'll get another thinggy done, sorry! <3

I get it's a little overdone, but I like the idea. Plus I don't RP them as 'Unga Bunga all unathi listen or die'. I prefer knowledge-keeper approach.

BYOND Key: DasFox Character name: Iksaeors Keorat Item name: Worn Maraziite Shroud Why is your character carrying said item to work? It's an armored trenchcoat with a fur throw-over attached. He works as a security officer, and it could function as a reskinned officers armor vest. Or, if not, simply an aesthetic item like a coat if that's not acceptable. Item function(s): As a reskinned armor vest, if at all possible. Otherwise, it would function as a normal coat. Item description: A brown, armored looking trenchcoat. There appears to be a fur cloak over the top of it, draping down to the sleeve. The cloak shows the obvious insignia of the Maraziite Order upon it. It looks worn. Item appearance: (Attached via ZIP doc) How will you use this to better interact with crew and/or stimulate RP? It's a shroud that he wears to signify he is part of the Maraziite order. I personally like to RP interaction with my clothing items. Adjusting collars, cloaks. Moving things, shifting vests. It'd be like this, and think it would fit the character and make him stand out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Item name: Charred Iron Mask Why is your character carrying said item to work? It goes with his shroud. He would wear it for the intimidation factor it brings. It is just a mask. Item function(s): Just a mask. To wear while on patrol. Item description: This is an iron mask used by those of the Maraziite Order. It appears to be entirely charred, perhaps there's a story behind that. Item appearance: (DMI attached at bottom, writing this in a text doc.) How will you use this to better interact with crew and/or stimulate RP? It goes with his shroud, and I'll use it in the same manner. It shows his alleigances, and has a large intimidation factor (I like to think.) Additional comments: Thanks Sleepy, for your iron mask sprite that I edited. <3 DasfoxMask.zip marcoat.zip

[mention]Senpai Jackboot[/mention] Err.. >.> Bump

I was thinking Xenoarch at first, however I have another science character which was created during the time of this. So I'd put him into security as a standard officer. sorry if my reply is a little late, I got held at work for a lot longer than usual.

[mention]Senpai Jackboot[/mention] Bump, been 48hrs.

Thanks Kiwi. <3