CampinKiller

As someone who was there at the bomb incident, I don't know why you were there, but when they were pepper sprayed and couldn't see, they caused the bomber to move, which caused the Detective holding the bomber at gunpoint to fire, which caused the bomber to automatically press the button.

So, I play Matt Price, and will throw my 2¢ in here. For some background, Matt is an EMT and former Sol Alliance Marine for 6 years, and was a field medic. He was involved in some anti-piracy operations, so he knows his way around combat and life-saving medical support. I come to the Medical lobby to find these two guys armed with a shotgun and a stun revolver, and call for Security. Another Doctor opens the door, and they come inside. I scan the grandfather and find out that he's fine, minus the mental retardation, and also call for Security, while they beg me to help. I tell them that I'm an EMT and I'm not able to help them as they need medicine/surgery that I am unable to do. About this time the younger one shoots me once with a stun revolver. I then try to disarm and pin him down, but the older one is able to stand up and shoot me with the revolver. As I lay there unconscious, and when I wake up, I can hear them attempting to blast me with the shotgun. When I wake up I am beaten with the butt of the shotgun, so I shove the older one over, and take the shotgun away. I then realized they hadn't racked it, and did so myself. They then both came at myself and a doctor who had come towards the sound of the fighting, and so I defended myself and the other doctor by blasting them with the shotgun (which, come to find out, was loaded with lethal slug rounds). They attempted to flash bang us to get the shotgun back after they ran out of stun revolver ammo, and ended up killing a surgeon that had a mechanical heart with an EMP grenade, but eventually bled out from the shotgun blasts I'd put into them. Was I playing the hero? I don't think so, given the backstory of the character, and the fact that Matt was being threatened and attacked by these two guys. Regardless, I think Tenenza handled it fine, given the other shit that was ongoing.

So, in other words, it's perfectly acceptable to vent significant portions of areas without the slightest amount of roleplay involved, and for powergamey reasons? They literally admitted to doing it in an attempt to win the round. If that's not powergaming, then there are serious issues with your interpretation of the rules. If antags are given free reign to circumvent to rules and bend them, then there are serious issues here.

I'm not saying it's gank. I'm saying it's atmos grief and powergaming to immediately vent an area multiple times for the blatant purpose of winning (as admitted in OOC from Delta's post), so you can pain-crit people instantly and fully depressurize a place because the lolz.

Sigh. This is why you test things on a private server. EDIT: Also, Jboy, trusting someone else with access to the server is not usually a good idea, especially after the Scopes incident.

He did? No, but are we just going to wait around until he does?

Reporting Personnel: Marc Price Rank of Reporting Personnel: Head of Security Personnel Involved: John Devereux (Detective), Sslazhir Yinzr (Officer), Ana Roh'hi'tin (Officer), Aersari Yinzr (Warden), Mordred Artorius (Cadet), Kellie Hastings (Executive Assistant), Robin Calanthe (Detective), Ro'grif Sodead (Assistant) Time of Incident: Approx. 8:20 Tau Ceti Standard Time Real time: 12MAR, approx. 2200 CST Location of Incident: Holodeck, Brig Nature of Incident: []Workplace Hazard []Accident/Injury []Destruction of Property []Neglect of Duty []Harassment []Assault [X]Misconduct [X]Murder Overview of the Incident: Ro'grif Sodead failed to utilize proper Holodeck equipment in a fight with Cadet Mordred Artorius, and then used a blunt force object to kill them after said fight. Their spouse, Detective Calanthe, then attempted to cover up the death by hiding the cadet's body, but he was spotted by the station AI. After being apprehended, Calanthe confessed, and implicated his wife, Sodead, who also later confessed. Calanthe then, during his holding until transfer, attempted to kill himself twice, resulting in massive Medical resources being expended. His wife, Sodead, also tried to kill herself, but did not cause as much injury. Did you report it to a Head of Staff or IAA? If so, who?: No. Additional notes: N/A

Some assistant called for Security over comms, reporting,"The Chef has been taken into Mining." We don't know if that meant being kidnapped, or just being taken there to see some things. Regardless, we couldn't raise them or the QM, and the AI wasn't responding. I called for two officers, and went myself to provide access. We then went onto the Mining Outpost, and still couldn't get anyone to respond, and so we had to break into the port section of it. We then simply searched the area, and then opened the door to the dorm room. Our equipment was the standard officer equipment, plus my energy gun as the HoS. All 3 of us were wearing our armored vests, but that's normal for most officers. As to what Pootis said, taking into account what Delta posted, I find that venting it multiple times, the first being before anyone could say a word, to be chucklefuckery. And nobody was armed with a laser rifle, the only person armed with a gun was myself, and the HoS is always armed. Also, making a gnarly scene makes no sense. You'd killed everyone who came to the Outpost, had vented it in multiple places, and then single out two bodies to decapitate, both of which happen to be the only Security who responded and could be a threat if cloned, and cut them into pieces for good measure.

BYOND Key: CampinKiller Player Byond Key: PootisManiac Staff involved: Garnascus Reason for complaint: Atmos griefing, Powergaming Approximate Date/Time: March 11, approx. 1900 CST So, PootisManiac, aka Walter Bash, was a vampire. Security received a report about the Chef missing heading into Cargo. Myself and two officers go to investigate the report, and head onto the Mining Outpost. We eventually get to the outpost dorms, and open the door to one of the rooms. Inside, we see Walter Bash and the Chef, and before we even say a word, Bash vents the room with an RCD they printed off an autolathe. They then proceed to vent the outpost 3 more times in order to kill everyone inside of it, including medical staff that responded to the vitals loss. This was ahelped and I was informed that it's not atmos grief to freely vent areas, nor was it ganking to suddenly kill two Security members who weren't even there to arrest anyone, but looking for the Chef, as well as Medical staff who went to help the Security forces. Later in the round, Bash then decapitates my body, and Nia Snyder's body, for the express reason of preventing us from being cloned. In fact, he didn't just decapitate them, he dismembered them completely. There was no reason to do this other than to prevent cloning, which seems to me to be blatantly over the line of what is acceptable, especially after murderboning said people minutes prior.

You missed my point entirely … but it’s ok don’t worry, no one is surprised That's basically what your point boiled down to. I like this change, considering how conservative and traditional Tajarans are. Not that it matters though, considering that the majority of Tajarans who are straight will be the Super Social Justice Warrior type and love all Tajarans, lore be damned in favor of edginess and not hurting people's feelings.

So, anything? -cries tears of loneliness-

Uh, what? Aurora security isn't mallcops. That's been well established for some time. They are a paramilitary corporate security force. Most RL corporate security forces at a research facility are armed with lethal weapons, because it's better safe than sorry. I'd support giving officers energy pistols.

Appearance - similar to Seon. Please no.

The only problem with that is that when JB said it was canon, Gollee immediately declared it non-canon, per the first post.

Holy necro, batman.

I was just referring back to Standard Operating Procedure, but if that's not valid, then I'll file that away.

Not an admin, but it's pretty clearly spelled out in the SOP that searches are allowed in code blue, period. Not "Captains may override this," not "You must get permission," but "You can search anyone and anything."

People need to start acting like Tajarans are actually distrusted and viewed as terrorists IC. It seems most of the station is just SJWs, and if you even mention Tajaran terrorism, or your dislike for them, you get shouted down, threatened, and even attacked by them. I like the lore for them, but people need to actually ACT like its the lore IC. Also, glass Adhomai.

Oh, yes, I was HoS that round. The Vaurca and I were Head Loyalists. I ordered the entire station searched for dissidents, and also to try and incite the crew to mutiny (since there are no auto messages to do it anymore). The Vaurca did that to escalate it further, and hopefully start resistance.

Glass Adhomai.

Right. Since he was talked to and knows that it's an issue now, then I'm fine with closing it.

BYOND Key: CampinKiller Staff BYOND Key: Killerhurtz, TishinaStalker (?, not sure if Tish was part of the decision, but they were the admin on at the time) Reason for complaint: Allowing blatant gank and greentexting from the AI on a malf round, overriding transfer votes for the 'roleplay' Evidence/logs/etc: I don't have specific logs, I'm on a different computer at the time of writing. Regardless, let me give the gist of the round. It was malf, and the AI was doing stealthmalf/greentexting, and just hacking APCs and not providing any meaningful roleplay to the crew. Their only interactions with the crew at large were faking two Command Announcements. One was regarding the transfer shuttle being disabled, and I don't recall the other. Borgs were ordered to act normally. The AI had no interaction with the crew besides normal functions and the two mentioned announcements until after the crew transfer was voted for at the 2 hour mark. The shuttle was called because nothing was happening, and passed by a vote of like 20-4. The staff online at the time inexplicably allowed the AI to recall the voted for shuttle. The reasoning Killerhurtz provided was because the AI was doing things, but being sneaky about it (read: greentexting/stealthmalfing), and when everything hit the fan "it would be awesome." Other ghosts who'd been ghosted for a majority of the round noted how the AI had literally not done anything to that point. After recalling the shuttle, the AI told the borgs to kill Yinzr, for some arbitrary reason. Yinzr, Ro'hin'tin, and other officers were armed because of a massive carp invasion trigged by random event, but nobody suspected the AI of any malfunctions. The borgs then proceeded to walk up in Medical where Yinzr was being treated and open fire on the group of people without a word, killing Yinzr, and seriously injuring Alex Toner, Skylar Briggs, and Ro'hin'tin. For some reason this was not considered gank, and was the 'awesome roleplay' the staff promised. Shortly after this, the AI vented its core and rushed the self-destruct mechanism, and at one point considered venting the entire station. At the 2:30 mark, a crew transfer passes again, and is again allowed to be recalled by staff. The fact that this blatant gank and greentexting was allowed, and even promoted as "awesome" by staff is laughable. If the new standard for malf AI is AIs that do nothing until suddenly ordering people to be killed, then the gamemode needs to be axed. Additional remarks: N/A

Simple. Reduce the number of them. There are so many random events that fuck the station up, round after round. I've seen two blobs in two hours before. Hordes of space carp that come in and breach everything. Spiders every other round. Can we tone down on the amount of random shit that happens?

Except some of these aggressive actions have happened on extended rounds, thereby making them canon, so it's not like NT doesn't know. Also, saying that it isn't canon so it shouldn't be punished makes no sense. If Security starts executing people regularly, but only on non-extended rounds, then I guess we can't punish those people either.