[1 Dismissal] there should be a rule against cloning with insufficient medical staff

[wowzewow]

with the new addition of psychology stuff and brain chemicals, if you're the only medical doctor you're basically screwed if someone gets cloned because you literally can't do anything about it, except watch them go insane and eventually die

[Faris]

You shouldn't clone people that you can't effectively maintain treatment of. There are already regulations put in place to deter this. Is it really such an issue that medical tunnel visions cloning people without regard to the present circumstances?

[Resilynn]

You shouldn't clone people that you can't effectively maintain treatment of. There are already regulations put in place to deter this. Is it really such an issue that medical tunnel visions cloning people without regard to the present circumstances?

 

Yes.

[Pratepresidenten]

I mean, its pretty straight forward. If you cant handle a patient, you dont take on that patient. Cloning is no different. However, to save a life from complete loss, you can run it through the scanner and save the scan until someone gets aboard to deal with post!

[Guest Menown]

[mention]wowzewow[/mention] is likely referring to last night.

During a merc round we had an MD clone a bunch of dead people, then instantly SSD once he figured out he couldn't handle it, leaving myself and Wesley (played by wowzewow) to try to keep the newly cloned simpletons calm until we could figure out what to do with them.

In hindsight, it should have probably been ahelped, or something, but I wouldn't think to do it as it's not strictly against the rules.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

@wowzewow is likely referring to last night.

During a merc round we had an MD clone a bunch of dead people, then instantly SSD once he figured out he couldn't handle it, leaving myself and Wesley (played by wowzewow) to try to keep the newly cloned simpletons calm until we could figure out what to do with them.

In hindsight, it should have probably been ahelped, or something, but I wouldn't think to do it as it's not strictly against the rules.

 

Neglect of duty. Kill them

[BurgerBB]

As long as you add a rule where you're supposed to clone with actual medical staff. I've seen CMOs refuse to clone people with chemists and/or psyches existing.

[Skull132]

Rules for specific IC behaviour like this are horrible. Literally please do not.

If a specific player is constantly cocking up against this, IR them.

If it just happens in general, pester CCIAA to run a publicity campaign around it or something. We should really implement ingame workshops on subjects like that :thinking:

[Scheveningen]

^ that.

Adding arbitrary rules to fit specific cases outlawing incompetence is Apophis-era Colonial Marines bullshit. Let's never become that.

You can't prevent incompetence from occurring, you can only inform the incompetents to be better and teach them to be better.

[Faris]

Voting for dismissal.

There are IC considerations already in place for this. Cloning is not a right for anyone, it's a privilege, which may or may not be granted depending on the circumstances at the time.

Certain medical staff per the following linked policy, can handle some post cloning issues.

https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=125&p=102386#p102386

[Faris]

Discussed this with a couple of people. Don't think there's a point to this rule as it's already covered by our rules to an extent.

Binning as denied per consensus.